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No date for a trial in the Maëlys case yet.
Niner, I am very surprised that the trial about the murder of Arthur Noyer would last from March to December....
France - Maëlys De Araujo, 9, found deceased, Pont-de-Beauvoisin, 27 Aug 2017 #2
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No date for a trial in the Maëlys case yet.
Niner, I am very surprised that the trial about the murder of Arthur Noyer would last from March to December....
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No date for a trial in the Maëlys case yet.
Niner, I am very surprised that the trial about the murder of Arthur Noyer would last from March to December....
Oh you know me and European dates - okay here's the REAL dates:
2/5/21 to 12/5/21....
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VIDEO. Grenoble : en colère, trois familles de disparus veulent se faire entendre de la Justice
Grenoble: three very angry families of the missing want to be heard by the justice system
Years after the unexplained disappearance of their relatives in and around Isère, families continue to denounce the silence of the judiciary and the unfinished investigations. They met this Saturday 13 February in the Grenoble office of their lawyer, Bernard Boulloud.
How to deal with the silence of the judiciary after the unresolved disappearance of a relative? This is the question raised by three families, who today say they have been abandoned by the judicial authorities. One of the main reasons for this is the lack of closure, which undermines the families, who gathered this Saturday 13 February in the Grenoble office of their lawyer, Bernard Boulloud, in order to make their voices heard despite the passage of time.
"We are suffering enormously", the sister of Malik Boutvillain, who disappeared in 2012 in Echirolles at the age of 31, confided. "We don't need the men and women who work for Justice to hurt us any more. We need someone to help us find them. If they can't, let them tell us."
Like her, the other two families have not seen a magistrate since 2018, when some cases were reopened following the Nordahl Lelandais scandal. "We were supposed to meet every six to eight months, and now it's been two years in November that I haven't had any news, that we don't know if the files are empty, if there's any progress," Régis Pique regrets. His companion, Eric Foray, disappeared in the Drôme in 2016, while he was out shopping at the supermarket.
"We're in limbo, waiting, all the time, all the time, all the time," Régis Pique says. Nothing is happening any more, we really feel abandoned". At the centre of the complaints of these families, three among about fifteen in total: a right to information, to be kept regularly informed of the contents of the files, as the law authorises them to do.
For Janine Suppo, the silence of the judicial authorities "is as if we don't exist, and as if our missing loved ones don't exist either." Mother of Nicolas Suppo, who disappeared at the age of 30 in 2010 in Echirolles, she claims to have been "in the dark for more than ten years." " In a state of limbo because we don't know what happened. Nothing because Justice doesn't answer us. To be kept in the dark, it's unbearable."
So, Maître Boulloud, their lawyer, has to multiply the legal procedures to obtain the news, which Justice has to provide for the good of the families. Except that he doesn't get any answers either:
"This obliges the families to incur additional costs to apply to the president of the examining magistrate's office, to make a brief, to take steps that they could well do without."
For him, this silence "is adding pain to suffering, and it is Justice that is responsible."
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Grenoble: three very angry families of the missing want to be heard by the justice system
Years after the unexplained disappearance of their relatives in and around Isère, families continue to denounce the silence of the judiciary and the unfinished investigations. They met this Saturday 13 February in the Grenoble office of their lawyer, Bernard Boulloud.
How to deal with the silence of the judiciary after the unresolved disappearance of a relative? This is the question raised by three families, who today say they have been abandoned by the judicial authorities. One of the main reasons for this is the lack of closure, which undermines the families, who gathered this Saturday 13 February in the Grenoble office of their lawyer, Bernard Boulloud, in order to make their voices heard despite the passage of time.
"We are suffering enormously", the sister of Malik Boutvillain, who disappeared in 2012 in Echirolles at the age of 31, confided. "We don't need the men and women who work for Justice to hurt us any more. We need someone to help us find them. If they can't, let them tell us."
Like her, the other two families have not seen a magistrate since 2018, when some cases were reopened following the Nordahl Lelandais scandal. "We were supposed to meet every six to eight months, and now it's been two years in November that I haven't had any news, that we don't know if the files are empty, if there's any progress," Régis Pique regrets. His companion, Eric Foray, disappeared in the Drôme in 2016, while he was out shopping at the supermarket.
"We're in limbo, waiting, all the time, all the time, all the time," Régis Pique says. Nothing is happening any more, we really feel abandoned". At the centre of the complaints of these families, three among about fifteen in total: a right to information, to be kept regularly informed of the contents of the files, as the law authorises them to do.
For Janine Suppo, the silence of the judicial authorities "is as if we don't exist, and as if our missing loved ones don't exist either." Mother of Nicolas Suppo, who disappeared at the age of 30 in 2010 in Echirolles, she claims to have been "in the dark for more than ten years." " In a state of limbo because we don't know what happened. Nothing because Justice doesn't answer us. To be kept in the dark, it's unbearable."
So, Maître Boulloud, their lawyer, has to multiply the legal procedures to obtain the news, which Justice has to provide for the good of the families. Except that he doesn't get any answers either:
"This obliges the families to incur additional costs to apply to the president of the examining magistrate's office, to make a brief, to take steps that they could well do without."
For him, this silence "is adding pain to suffering, and it is Justice that is responsible."
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Isère/Savoie. Fin des investigations dans l’affaire Maëlys
End of investigations in the Maëlys case
It has taken three and a half years to close the Maëlys investigations. According to information from the Dauphiné Libéré, the three Grenoble investigating judges in charge of the abduction and murder of Maëlys have now closed the files. The last document to be added to the file was in January: it is the second psychiatric report on Nordahl Lelandais, the presumed murderer of the little girl abducted and killed during the night of 26-27 August 2017 in Pont-de-Beauvoisin.
"The examining magistrate today (18 February) issued an order for the case to be referred to the public prosecutor's office for settlement under article 175 of the code of criminal procedure," Eric Vaillant, Grenoble public prosecutor, said when questioned by the Dauphiné Libéré.
In concrete terms, this means that the public prosecutor now has one month to reread and analyse the case file and in return send the judge his requisitions on the follow-up he intends to give to the proceedings. Within this time limit, the other parties can send their observations to the judge or request documents.
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I was alerted by a tweet of the Public Prosecutor of Grenoble himself:
Eric VAILLANT procureur de Grenoble @egajvpr
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Fin des investigations dans l’affaire Maëlys
End of investigations in the Maëlys case
It has taken three and a half years to close the Maëlys investigations. According to information from the Dauphiné Libéré, the three Grenoble investigating judges in charge of the abduction and murder of Maëlys have now closed the files. The last document to be added to the file was in January: it is the second psychiatric report on Nordahl Lelandais, the presumed murderer of the little girl abducted and killed during the night of 26-27 August 2017 in Pont-de-Beauvoisin.
"The examining magistrate today (18 February) issued an order for the case to be referred to the public prosecutor's office for settlement under article 175 of the code of criminal procedure," Eric Vaillant, Grenoble public prosecutor, said when questioned by the Dauphiné Libéré.
In concrete terms, this means that the public prosecutor now has one month to reread and analyse the case file and in return send the judge his requisitions on the follow-up he intends to give to the proceedings. Within this time limit, the other parties can send their observations to the judge or request documents.
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I was alerted by a tweet of the Public Prosecutor of Grenoble himself:
Eric VAILLANT procureur de Grenoble @egajvpr
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Fin des investigations dans l’affaire Maëlys
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Isère : l'appel de trois familles de disparus pour être enfin reçues par la justice
Isère: three families of the missing appeal to be received by Justice at last
Their relatives have been missing for 11, 9 and 5 years. The files were reopened following the Lelandais investigation, but for months they have been asking in vain to be received by the judge in charge of their investigation. These three families want to know where the investigations stand and the wait is unbearable.
It is a cry of distress that these three families of the missing wanted to make heard, in the direction of justice, by organising a press conference at their lawyer's office on Saturday 13 February.
Dalila and Karima Boutvillain are looking for their brother Malik, aged 31 at the time of his disappearance on 6 May 2012. He left his home in Echirolles to go jogging. No one has ever seen him again. The investigation was closed without further action quickly before being reopened in 2018, following the Lelandais affair and the creation of the Ariane cell of the gendarmerie, which had selected 40 cold cases that could be linked to the murderer of Maelys and Corporal Noyer.
Janine and Yves Suppo have had no news of their son Nicolas since 15 September 2010. Nicolas, a specialised worker of 30 at the time, in a company in Echirolles, never returned to work after his lunch break. After being closed with no further action taken, the file has recently been reopened, following a complaint for arrest, kidnapping, sequestration and murder.
Régis Pique's companion, Eric Foray, aged 47, disappeared on 15 September 2016 in Chatuzange le Goubet, in the Drôme, while going shopping by car, a vehicle that has never been found, just like Eric. "Eric didn't commit suicide, he didn't leave either. I'm sure of it, we were happy together, we had plans to open a restaurant. Something must have happened to him" Régis explains.
All these families of the missing have one thing in common. For 2 years for Régis Pique and the Boutvillain sisters, for weeks for the parents of Nicolas Suppo, they have never succeeded, despite their numerous requests, in meeting the magistrate in charge of their case.
"We just want to know where the investigation is going" explains Dalila Boutvillain. "The law stipulates that civil parties must be received regularly by the judge, every 6 months. We don't feel like harassing our judge. We've been waiting for two years. We are going to refer the case to the examining magistrate's chamber. They despise the victims."
For Janine, Nicolas Suppo's mother, this waiting is torture: "We feel like we are nothing. Because they have disappeared, our relatives no longer exist. But we want to know what happened to them. It's human. For 10 years, I haven't lived any more, the pain of not knowing what happened to my son is still there. I would like the judges to hear this pain and to listen to us and tell us what's in the file." And she adds: "Justice may hope to wear us down, but the pain doesn't wear off!"
Régis Pique, Eric Foray's companion, says he felt homophobia at the beginning of the case from the gendarmes. "For them, it was a story about gays. It was me who did the investigation. In the beginning, they didn't even want me to call for witnesses. If Eric's file is empty, let them tell me, but don't leave me like this, in a state of uncertainty."
Their lawyer, Maître Bernard Boulloud, from the Grenoble Bar Association, who deals with about fifteen disappearance cases throughout the Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes region, tries to obtain hearings from the judge, tries to get access to the file. All in vain. "We're not looking for an object or an animal, but a human being" he insists. "It's the task of the justice system to listen to the families of victims. This judicial silence is intolerable. My clients are capable of hearing everything, but they have to take the trouble to receive them."
Yves, Nicolas Suppo's father, had long hoped that his son had left, that he was alive, somewhere. For years, he has been living in his camper and travelling the roads of France. "I tell myself that maybe one day I will find him again. And then, sometimes, I tell myself that he's dead" he says, choking a sob.
Karima, one of Malik Boutvillain's two sisters, would like the families of the 'disappeared' to be able to be part of the group which was created, at the end of 2019, by the Prosecutor General of Grenoble. "It is a group that will work on cold cases, unsolved cases. It is an excellent initiative. But why weren't we, the families of the missing, invited? We have so many things to offer!"
The three desperate families, who feel abandoned by the law, would like to see the creation of a special service in France, dedicated to missing adults, with trained investigators and a specific database.
"When Nicolas disappeared, we were told that it was his right, that nothing could be done for 48 hours. This is no longer possible. You have to listen to the families, we know that the first 48 hours after the disappearance are the most important for the investigation. Things have to change" Janine Suppo concludes.
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Isère: three families of the missing appeal to be received by Justice at last
Their relatives have been missing for 11, 9 and 5 years. The files were reopened following the Lelandais investigation, but for months they have been asking in vain to be received by the judge in charge of their investigation. These three families want to know where the investigations stand and the wait is unbearable.
It is a cry of distress that these three families of the missing wanted to make heard, in the direction of justice, by organising a press conference at their lawyer's office on Saturday 13 February.
Dalila and Karima Boutvillain are looking for their brother Malik, aged 31 at the time of his disappearance on 6 May 2012. He left his home in Echirolles to go jogging. No one has ever seen him again. The investigation was closed without further action quickly before being reopened in 2018, following the Lelandais affair and the creation of the Ariane cell of the gendarmerie, which had selected 40 cold cases that could be linked to the murderer of Maelys and Corporal Noyer.
Janine and Yves Suppo have had no news of their son Nicolas since 15 September 2010. Nicolas, a specialised worker of 30 at the time, in a company in Echirolles, never returned to work after his lunch break. After being closed with no further action taken, the file has recently been reopened, following a complaint for arrest, kidnapping, sequestration and murder.
Régis Pique's companion, Eric Foray, aged 47, disappeared on 15 September 2016 in Chatuzange le Goubet, in the Drôme, while going shopping by car, a vehicle that has never been found, just like Eric. "Eric didn't commit suicide, he didn't leave either. I'm sure of it, we were happy together, we had plans to open a restaurant. Something must have happened to him" Régis explains.
All these families of the missing have one thing in common. For 2 years for Régis Pique and the Boutvillain sisters, for weeks for the parents of Nicolas Suppo, they have never succeeded, despite their numerous requests, in meeting the magistrate in charge of their case.
"We just want to know where the investigation is going" explains Dalila Boutvillain. "The law stipulates that civil parties must be received regularly by the judge, every 6 months. We don't feel like harassing our judge. We've been waiting for two years. We are going to refer the case to the examining magistrate's chamber. They despise the victims."
For Janine, Nicolas Suppo's mother, this waiting is torture: "We feel like we are nothing. Because they have disappeared, our relatives no longer exist. But we want to know what happened to them. It's human. For 10 years, I haven't lived any more, the pain of not knowing what happened to my son is still there. I would like the judges to hear this pain and to listen to us and tell us what's in the file." And she adds: "Justice may hope to wear us down, but the pain doesn't wear off!"
Régis Pique, Eric Foray's companion, says he felt homophobia at the beginning of the case from the gendarmes. "For them, it was a story about gays. It was me who did the investigation. In the beginning, they didn't even want me to call for witnesses. If Eric's file is empty, let them tell me, but don't leave me like this, in a state of uncertainty."
Their lawyer, Maître Bernard Boulloud, from the Grenoble Bar Association, who deals with about fifteen disappearance cases throughout the Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes region, tries to obtain hearings from the judge, tries to get access to the file. All in vain. "We're not looking for an object or an animal, but a human being" he insists. "It's the task of the justice system to listen to the families of victims. This judicial silence is intolerable. My clients are capable of hearing everything, but they have to take the trouble to receive them."
Yves, Nicolas Suppo's father, had long hoped that his son had left, that he was alive, somewhere. For years, he has been living in his camper and travelling the roads of France. "I tell myself that maybe one day I will find him again. And then, sometimes, I tell myself that he's dead" he says, choking a sob.
Karima, one of Malik Boutvillain's two sisters, would like the families of the 'disappeared' to be able to be part of the group which was created, at the end of 2019, by the Prosecutor General of Grenoble. "It is a group that will work on cold cases, unsolved cases. It is an excellent initiative. But why weren't we, the families of the missing, invited? We have so many things to offer!"
The three desperate families, who feel abandoned by the law, would like to see the creation of a special service in France, dedicated to missing adults, with trained investigators and a specific database.
"When Nicolas disappeared, we were told that it was his right, that nothing could be done for 48 hours. This is no longer possible. You have to listen to the families, we know that the first 48 hours after the disappearance are the most important for the investigation. Things have to change" Janine Suppo concludes.
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Disparus du fort de Tamié : le crâne retrouvé serait celui d’Ahmed Hamadou
Missing men of the Fort de Tamié: the skull that was found allegedly belongs to Ahmed Hamadou
The Chambéry prosecutor's office is more cautious than the family's lawyer, the former explains that they are waiting for the results of other examinations.
Is the mystery of the "missing men of Fort de Tamié " slowly dissolving, at least for one of them? According to Didier Seban, the lawyer for Ahmed Hamadou's family, the skull found in mid-October by a walker under the Fort de Tamié (Savoie) is very likely that of the forty-year-old, who disappeared after a music festival in September 2012.
The analyses carried out by the Gendarmerie's criminal research institute (IRCGN) "provide us with sufficient evidence, in terms of DNA, to say that it is most certainly the skull of Ahmed Hamadou that has been found," Mr Seban explained to Le Figaro.
For their part, the prosecutor's office in Chambéry is more cautious. "There is no formal identification at this stage, no certainty, only a probability," prosecutor Pierre-Yves Michau told Le Figaro. "Examinations are underway to confirm or refute this probability."
"This is unfortunate news for the Hamadou family, who have confirmation of what they have been fearing for a long time," according to Mr Seban. "They hope that in the light of this new key information, things will move forward more quickly. We now need searches, excavations to hopefully find other bones, as well as calls for witnesses to find out more about the circumstances of the disappearances of Ahmed Hamadou and Jean-Christophe Morin."
"We send all our sympathies to Ahmed's family," Adeline Morin, the sister of Jean-Christophe Morin, the second "missing man from Fort de Tamié " wrote on Facebook. The relatives of the latter have had no news of the 22-year-old since September 2011. They hope that the discovery of Ahmed Hamadou's cranium will "multiply the means to find JC."
After years without significant progress, the investigation into the "Fort de Tamié disappearances" has rebounded in the wake of the creation of the Ariane cell, set up to conduct checks between unsolved disappearances, particularly in eastern France, and the background of Nordahl Lelandais.
At present, Nordahl Lelandais is under investigation in five cases: the death of little Maëlys, that of Corporal Arthur Noyer and sexual assault on three young cousins. He will be tried in May for the murder of the soldier.
"At this stage, we can't say if it's him or not, but the bones of Corporal Noyer were found in more or less the same circumstances as those of Ahmed Hamadou. It's an interesting lead," Mr Seban remarked.
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RIP Ahmed Hamadou. Condolences to his family.
Missing men of the Fort de Tamié: the skull that was found allegedly belongs to Ahmed Hamadou
The Chambéry prosecutor's office is more cautious than the family's lawyer, the former explains that they are waiting for the results of other examinations.
Is the mystery of the "missing men of Fort de Tamié " slowly dissolving, at least for one of them? According to Didier Seban, the lawyer for Ahmed Hamadou's family, the skull found in mid-October by a walker under the Fort de Tamié (Savoie) is very likely that of the forty-year-old, who disappeared after a music festival in September 2012.
The analyses carried out by the Gendarmerie's criminal research institute (IRCGN) "provide us with sufficient evidence, in terms of DNA, to say that it is most certainly the skull of Ahmed Hamadou that has been found," Mr Seban explained to Le Figaro.
For their part, the prosecutor's office in Chambéry is more cautious. "There is no formal identification at this stage, no certainty, only a probability," prosecutor Pierre-Yves Michau told Le Figaro. "Examinations are underway to confirm or refute this probability."
"This is unfortunate news for the Hamadou family, who have confirmation of what they have been fearing for a long time," according to Mr Seban. "They hope that in the light of this new key information, things will move forward more quickly. We now need searches, excavations to hopefully find other bones, as well as calls for witnesses to find out more about the circumstances of the disappearances of Ahmed Hamadou and Jean-Christophe Morin."
"We send all our sympathies to Ahmed's family," Adeline Morin, the sister of Jean-Christophe Morin, the second "missing man from Fort de Tamié " wrote on Facebook. The relatives of the latter have had no news of the 22-year-old since September 2011. They hope that the discovery of Ahmed Hamadou's cranium will "multiply the means to find JC."
After years without significant progress, the investigation into the "Fort de Tamié disappearances" has rebounded in the wake of the creation of the Ariane cell, set up to conduct checks between unsolved disappearances, particularly in eastern France, and the background of Nordahl Lelandais.
At present, Nordahl Lelandais is under investigation in five cases: the death of little Maëlys, that of Corporal Arthur Noyer and sexual assault on three young cousins. He will be tried in May for the murder of the soldier.
"At this stage, we can't say if it's him or not, but the bones of Corporal Noyer were found in more or less the same circumstances as those of Ahmed Hamadou. It's an interesting lead," Mr Seban remarked.
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RIP Ahmed Hamadou. Condolences to his family.
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La piste de Nordahl Lelandais examinée dans la mort de Thomas Rauschkolb en Savoie
Nordahl Lelandais' trail examined in the death of Thomas Rauschkolb in Savoie
Disturbing similarities exist between the death of the 18-year-old in 2015 and other victims of the killer.
The judiciary has ordered the exhumation of the body of an 18-year-old man, Thomas Rauschkolb, who died in 2015 in Savoie, to carry out an autopsy, and to examine the possibility of homicide by Nordahl Lelandais. Until now, the death was attributed to an accidental fall into a river after leaving a discotheque.
The body of Thomas Rauschkolb was found on 28 December 2015, on the banks of the Sierroz, in Grésy-sur-Aix (Savoie). According to the investigation, he had spent the evening in a discotheque, Studio 54, and then fled towards the river. In 2019, Francis Rauschkolb, the victim's father, discovered from a photo provided by a waitress that Nordahl Lelandais had frequented this nightclub.
A little later, the ex-girlfriend of the killer mentioned this case to Le Parisien: "They should particularly delve into the case of young Thomas Rauschkolb who was found dead next to a nightclub in December 2015. He [ Nordahl Lelandais ] was in the same state of anger and frustration as on the day when he killed Corporal Arthur Noyer on the night of 11-12 April 2017. The day before, he had terrified me with a chainsaw," she explained.
So many indicators that now suggest that Nordahl Lelandais could be at the origin of the death of the young man. The father, Francis Rauschkolb, has studied in detail the circumstances of his son's disappearance and sees other corroborating clues: "My son left his down jacket in the cloakroom of the discotheque when it was 5 degrees outside that night. He walked in the opposite direction to our home, which was about a kilometre and a half away. He entered a housing estate, went through a wooden gate of a property, across a garden and then over a fence. To me, he was trying to escape from someone who was chasing him. Or from a dog that was set against him. And since Lelandais had dogs ... " he explained to Le Parisien .
Nordahl Lelandais is to be tried from 3 May for the murder of Corporal Arthur Noyer, whose family is represented by Bernard Boulloud.
The latter is also the lawyer of Francis Rauschkolb, and said that the autopsy of young Thomas "should allow us to know if there are suspicious fractures related to blows and not to the fall of Thomas. This would then support the criminal investigation." DNA samples have also been requested.
The Rauschkolb case is one of forty or so cases to be reexamined by the courts and potentially linked to Nordahl Lelandais. They themselves have been sorted out from 900 unsolved cases.
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Nordahl Lelandais' trail examined in the death of Thomas Rauschkolb in Savoie
Disturbing similarities exist between the death of the 18-year-old in 2015 and other victims of the killer.
The judiciary has ordered the exhumation of the body of an 18-year-old man, Thomas Rauschkolb, who died in 2015 in Savoie, to carry out an autopsy, and to examine the possibility of homicide by Nordahl Lelandais. Until now, the death was attributed to an accidental fall into a river after leaving a discotheque.
The body of Thomas Rauschkolb was found on 28 December 2015, on the banks of the Sierroz, in Grésy-sur-Aix (Savoie). According to the investigation, he had spent the evening in a discotheque, Studio 54, and then fled towards the river. In 2019, Francis Rauschkolb, the victim's father, discovered from a photo provided by a waitress that Nordahl Lelandais had frequented this nightclub.
A little later, the ex-girlfriend of the killer mentioned this case to Le Parisien: "They should particularly delve into the case of young Thomas Rauschkolb who was found dead next to a nightclub in December 2015. He [ Nordahl Lelandais ] was in the same state of anger and frustration as on the day when he killed Corporal Arthur Noyer on the night of 11-12 April 2017. The day before, he had terrified me with a chainsaw," she explained.
So many indicators that now suggest that Nordahl Lelandais could be at the origin of the death of the young man. The father, Francis Rauschkolb, has studied in detail the circumstances of his son's disappearance and sees other corroborating clues: "My son left his down jacket in the cloakroom of the discotheque when it was 5 degrees outside that night. He walked in the opposite direction to our home, which was about a kilometre and a half away. He entered a housing estate, went through a wooden gate of a property, across a garden and then over a fence. To me, he was trying to escape from someone who was chasing him. Or from a dog that was set against him. And since Lelandais had dogs ... " he explained to Le Parisien .
Nordahl Lelandais is to be tried from 3 May for the murder of Corporal Arthur Noyer, whose family is represented by Bernard Boulloud.
The latter is also the lawyer of Francis Rauschkolb, and said that the autopsy of young Thomas "should allow us to know if there are suspicious fractures related to blows and not to the fall of Thomas. This would then support the criminal investigation." DNA samples have also been requested.
The Rauschkolb case is one of forty or so cases to be reexamined by the courts and potentially linked to Nordahl Lelandais. They themselves have been sorted out from 900 unsolved cases.
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Thanks for all the updates! I've made my notes!
And I noticed above they say he is indicted for 5 cases:
At present, Nordahl Lelandais is under investigation in five cases: the death of little Maëlys, that of Corporal Arthur Noyer and sexual assault on three young cousins. He will be tried in May for the murder of the soldier.
I only have four.
*Arthur Noyer (24) - murder
*Maëlys De Araujo (9) (Aug. 27, 2017, Pont-de-Beauvoisin, Isère; found Feb. 14, 2018) - *Nordahl Lelandais (34/now 36) arrested (9/3/17) & indicted with murder & kidnapping & forcible confinement of a minor younger than 15; being held in jail. Maleys' DNA found in his car.
*Charged (7/3/17) & indicted (2/27/20) with sexual assault of a minor under 15 yrs re sexual assault on his young cousin (14) during a visit for her father’s funeral, a month before Maëlys’ abduction.
*Indicted (12/7/18) for sexual assault on a minor & recording of child *advertiser censored* images. According to concurring sources, this indictment concerns the sexual touching of a little girl who was four years old at the time of the incident. Abusing his goddaughter, the daughter of a close friend. The video was taken in 2017 before the one where he was seen with his 6-year-old cousin. (NL admitted in particular that he had "for some time" been attracted to children & had pedophilic tendencies. "I didn't really make the difference between a woman and a child," he told the investigating judges).
Is the 6 year old cousin one of the cases? On that charge I only have the 4 year old goddaughter.
And I noticed above they say he is indicted for 5 cases:
At present, Nordahl Lelandais is under investigation in five cases: the death of little Maëlys, that of Corporal Arthur Noyer and sexual assault on three young cousins. He will be tried in May for the murder of the soldier.
I only have four.
*Arthur Noyer (24) - murder
*Maëlys De Araujo (9) (Aug. 27, 2017, Pont-de-Beauvoisin, Isère; found Feb. 14, 2018) - *Nordahl Lelandais (34/now 36) arrested (9/3/17) & indicted with murder & kidnapping & forcible confinement of a minor younger than 15; being held in jail. Maleys' DNA found in his car.
*Charged (7/3/17) & indicted (2/27/20) with sexual assault of a minor under 15 yrs re sexual assault on his young cousin (14) during a visit for her father’s funeral, a month before Maëlys’ abduction.
*Indicted (12/7/18) for sexual assault on a minor & recording of child *advertiser censored* images. According to concurring sources, this indictment concerns the sexual touching of a little girl who was four years old at the time of the incident. Abusing his goddaughter, the daughter of a close friend. The video was taken in 2017 before the one where he was seen with his 6-year-old cousin. (NL admitted in particular that he had "for some time" been attracted to children & had pedophilic tendencies. "I didn't really make the difference between a woman and a child," he told the investigating judges).
Is the 6 year old cousin one of the cases? On that charge I only have the 4 year old goddaughter.
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Thanks for all the updates! I've made my notes!
And I noticed above they say he is indicted for 5 cases:
At present, Nordahl Lelandais is under investigation in five cases: the death of little Maëlys, that of Corporal Arthur Noyer and sexual assault on three young cousins. He will be tried in May for the murder of the soldier.
I only have four.
*Arthur Noyer (24) - murder
*Maëlys De Araujo (9) (Aug. 27, 2017, Pont-de-Beauvoisin, Isère; found Feb. 14, 2018) - *Nordahl Lelandais (34/now 36) arrested (9/3/17) & indicted with murder & kidnapping & forcible confinement of a minor younger than 15; being held in jail. Maleys' DNA found in his car.
*Charged (7/3/17) & indicted (2/27/20) with sexual assault of a minor under 15 yrs re sexual assault on his young cousin (14) during a visit for her father’s funeral, a month before Maëlys’ abduction.
*Indicted (12/7/18) for sexual assault on a minor & recording of child *advertiser censored* images. According to concurring sources, this indictment concerns the sexual touching of a little girl who was four years old at the time of the incident. Abusing his goddaughter, the daughter of a close friend. The video was taken in 2017 before the one where he was seen with his 6-year-old cousin. (NL admitted in particular that he had "for some time" been attracted to children & had pedophilic tendencies. "I didn't really make the difference between a woman and a child," he told the investigating judges).
Is the 6 year old cousin one of the cases? On that charge I only have the 4 year old goddaughter.
AFAK there are two little cousins. At the time, one was six, the other four. These are two separate investigations. NL has admitted to the facts in both cases.
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Ok - thanks for clearing that up for me.
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I was wondering, and I know you are busy, yet still.... could you please update your famous list?
Ahmed Hamadou is presumed found deceased.
Remains of Thomas Rauschkolb will be exhumated and an investigation into hois death is underway.
This thread has been moved to 'Currently Awaiting Trial' for no apparent reason. There will be many trials before we are done, and Maëlys' trial will not be the first. Meanwhile, a huge investigation should be happening (see the list!) and we only see occasional tips of the ramifications, while in other cases, stagnation appears to be the name of the game.
As for the Maëlys trial later this year, I got the impression that the prosecution somehow wanted to join the cases of the sexual abuse of the very young cousins and the girl of 14, as evidence for the alleged rape of Maëlys. The courts have thrown that one out from the Maëlys trial, so it is unclear what will be happening with these cases.
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Okay - I did add that new stuff you just posted about. Here's my list/timeline.
NL Indicted for these murders
Investigation of NL connected to these cases.
Families requested investigation.
NL excluded from these cases.
Families at Lyon meeting 4/27/18. 5/18/18 update: The families of the missing will meet again in September, 2018 to review the investigations.
One of 40 cases being investigated by the Ariane Cell group.
Nordahl Lelandais in April 2001, he joined the 132nd dog battalion of Suippes (Marne). NL was 19 years old at the beginning of his first stay in January 2003 in French Guyana. He participated in guard missions within his battalion, as part of two short-term missions. He was 22 at the end of his second stay on Guyanese soil. NL would be discharged in 2007, at the age of 24, for psychological disorders.
He had enlisted for five years, he only lasted four, and was struck off in April 2005. Re another article says: He will have had time to obtain a basic certificate of dog handler, to perform two missions of four month was stationed in Suippes (Marne), in the 132nd Army Dog Battalion, between 2001 and 2007.
The ex-military is "noticed" in October 2008, with two accomplices, engaging in a battle of eggs and fruits in a supermarket, by burning tricolor flags, and a restaurant in Paladru (Isère). He will be sentenced to one year in prison, but received a sentence adjustment.
Under an electronic bracelet starting April 2009. He was released on parole in October 2010.
Per Twitter reporter: He was never effectively in prison, he 'served' 12 months with an ankle bracelet (April 2009 to April 2010). Reporter: Le Midi Libre published an article with the testimony of a friend of Lelandais. He tells that the latter regularly came to Montpellier to party between 2008 and 2012.
Wondering "what" day he was released from ankle bracelet, as Adrien Fiorello was killed; was he anxious to kill again on the 6th?
Estelle Mouzin, 9, disappeared on 9 January 2003 in Guermantes (Seine-et-Marne), around 6 pm between her house and her school. Nordahl Lelandais was 19 years old, he was at the military camp of Suippes (Marne), 150 kilometers away but was sent on a mission to the East at the time of the disappearance.
In the Estelle Mouzin case, it was enough for the investigators to question the army to learn that he was on a mission in Guyana at the time of the girl's disappearance in 2003 in Seine-et-Marne. Excluded: File is closed.
Serial killer Michel Fourniret has confessed to the murder of Estelle Mouzin in 2003.
Nordahl started his dog training business in Chambéry in February 2010, business can be placed near the Chambéry train station starting in 2010. According to Google Maps, it is only 550 meters away: a 7 minute walk, or a 3 minute drive. The Chambéry train station was said to be the last location where Adrien Fiorello's phone pinged. The head office of this company was located 317 rue Nicolas Parent - 73000 Chambery In 2010, Nordahl Lalandais: *was on ankle monitor from April 2009 to January 2010
The articles I could find just say that he was condemned to 1 year of ankle bracelet at the end of April 2009. However, pursuant to the Criminal procedure code, there is an automatic 3-month reduction of sentence for the first year (and more if the person has a job prospect or resumes studies, the goal being reinsertion). It means that NL was probably without his ankle bracelet end of January 2010 at the latest. *was somewhere with an ankle monitor from April 2009 to January 2010 *registered the start of his dog training company in Chambéry in February 2010 *became depressed and passed a while in the psychiatric hospital in Chambéry OR was an out-patient from 2012 to 2013.
Adlène Kifani, 18 - one of the oldest cases - who no longer gave any sign of life after making a brief call to 17 [ police help!] number after leaving her family home to meet with his friends & have a drink at a bar in Portes-lès-Valence (Drôme) on 16 April, 2009 only a few dozen meters away.
A few days later, the Valence Public Prosecutor's Office opened a judicial investigation for kidnapping and sequestration.
On Ariane cell list.
Rachid Rameche, disappeared in 2009 June 10, in Bassens (Savoie) while he was in a psychiatric institution. He withdrew the amount of his adult disability benefits before he disappeared. He was staying in the same centre that Lucie Roux and Nordahl Lelandais attended between 2012 and 2013.
Request from family to investigate. At the beginning of the year (2018), the file on the death of his daughter was transmitted to a cell of the national gendarmerie, established to work on Nordhal Lelandais.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
Rachid was seen and identified in Strasbourg in 2009 after his disappearance. He may be in Belgium where he was fined in 2009 and 2014.
Coralie Moussu - the autopsy of the body of the 32-year-old woman, found in the Rhône in December, reveals that she did not drown. The investigators are back to square one and are now focusing on the criminal track. Coralie Moussu's car, a black Nissan Micra with 2899 YZ 30 registration, car has never been found. The young woman was last seen inside this vehicle on the morning of November 6, 2009. She had just dropped her daughter off at her mother's house for two hours, while she was preparing the exam to take a CAP [Certificate of Professional Competence] early childhood.
Now on list for investigation.
May 11, 2018 Update: The Gard are taking a closer look into this case with any link to NL.
Nicolas Suppo, 30 years old, a technical specialist disappeared on 15 September 2010 near Echirolles. He disappeared during his lunch break. His coworkers saw him at work in the morning. He had neither his identity papers nor his blue card with him, France Bleu Isère reported. The case was closed without further action in 2014, then reopened at the beginning of the year (2018) by the Grenoble court.
Earlier: Probably not a suspect; same region as NL; preliminary investigation. Now on list of: possible link; verification under way.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
Adrien Fiorello, a 22-year-old student who disappeared on 6 October 2010 in Firminy (Loire) while he was on his way to the university in Chambéry (Savoie). The young man's cell phone last pinged in Chambéry (train station) at 5:37 p.m. on October 6, 2010. We don't know if it was ever physically located. Chambéry is where Nordahl Lelandais had a dog breeding business at that time. He was supposed to be in Saint-Étienne, not Chambéry, the day he vanished. Saint-Étienne is where he went to university classes. How his phone ended up in
Chambéry is still a mystery. The two cities are about 150 kilometers apart.
3/19/18 Update: According to information from BFM TV, the gendarmes will investigate the disappearance of Adrien Fiorello after the prosecutor's office in Saint-Etienne requested the prosecutor's office in Chambéry to formally attach the file. An initial investigation had determined that his mobile phone had pinged in Chambéry. Nordahl Lelandais was living in Chambéry at the time. The court has ordered further
investigations.
Possible link, verification under way. Case has been reopened; now on list for investigation.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
Nelly Balmain was 29 when she leaves the family home of Saint-Jean-en-Royans (Drôme) on a scooter, without reappearing. She disappears on 8 August 2011. On 11 January 2018, the Public Prosecutor's Office in
Valence reopened the investigation into the disappearance of Nelly Balmain, aged 29, which had been closed in 2015. The young woman had left her parents' home in Saint-Jean-en-Royans never to reappear, her scooter was never found.
Earlier: Verification in progress; request from family to investigate. On 11 January 2018, the prosecutor also reopened this investigation. Now on list for investigation. 4/27/18 met with investigating Judge for 4 hours.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
Jean-Christophe Morin, 23, disappeared on 9-10 September 2011 during an electro party at Tamié Fort in Albertville (Savoie). The gendarmes only found his backpack. In L'Obs, Jean-Christophe Morin's lawyer states that his family still has two telephones that belonged to him and that they have not yet been seized by the courts.
Possible link; verification under way; on list for investigation.
Family Attorney at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
Kévin Fauvel, 27, on the night of 1-2-3 April 2012, left the community of Jansiac, located in Châteauneuf-Miravail, in the Jabron Valley. Since then, his family has no news. Jansiac is a small group trying
to live autonomously in the Alpes-de-Haute-Provence. He was supposed to hitch a ride to his mother's house in Brittany. Ten days later, his father found his identity papers in Jansiac, without any further explanation about this mysterious disappearance. The gendarmes closed their investigation in March 2017. It was reopened last February, as Kevin may have crossed the Rhône Valley and Isère, places frequented by Nordahl Lelandais.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
2/12/20: NL has been ruled out as suspect for this case.
Malik Boutvillain, 32, disappeared on 6 May 2012 in Echirolles (Isère). He was out jogging.
Earlier: Probably not a suspect; same region as NL; preliminary investigation. Now on list of: possible suspect; verification under way. The investigation had been closed but the Grenoble prosecutor
reopened it in early February 2018. He suffers from schizophrenia.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
Hugo Raffi, 18 years old, who left home in flip-flops, without a mobile phone and without papers in Albertville (Savoie) in 15, June 2012.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
Ahmed Hamadou, 45, disappeared in 7-8 September 2012 at Fort Tamié (Savoie). According to this 2012 article Yan and Ahmed (who knew each other since one week) arrived together in the car at 4am, then Yan got into two fights with the festival security, lost his cell phone and broke his glasses. He left quite hurriedly alone in his car, leaving Ahmed behind (4 witnesses confirm this). He arrived at a friend's place at 6am, telling him he went to the gendarmerie (for his cell phone?). They tried to call Ahmed but could not reach him. Then Yan left and disappeared for 15 days. "Hamadou was from Le-Pont-de-Beauvoisin, he knew Nordahl," his lawyer adds. Nordahl Lelandais grew up partly in this commune of Isère, it was also there that the wedding party was organised during which Maëlys disappeared last summer.
On list for investigation. Possible link; verification under way.
Family Attorney at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
9/8/18 Update: Amateur video does not show NL in it. But still on list for investigation.
On Ariane cell list.
A skull found in mid-October, 2020 by a walker under the Fort de Tamié (Savoie) is very likely that of the 40 year-old, who disappeared after a music festival in September 2012.
Lucie Roux, 43, disappears on 16 September 2012 while residing in the psychiatric centre in Bassens in Chambéry (Savoie). She was treated from 2006 to 2012 at Bassens for depression and had 3 roommates. And it seems that Nordahl Lelandais was followed by the medical-psychological center of Chambéry from 2012 to 2013. The 43 years old, this woman [Lucie Roux] was due to leave the psychiatric hospital of Bassens in the months to come. On September 16, 2012,
Lucie had not told her three roommates where she wanted to go. Equipped with a small backpack, she left without her mobile phone, papers or credit card. The investigation showed that the day before she went to a DIY store to buy plywood boards, nails and screws in cash before being taken by taxi to the Monts district in Chambéry in a forest. That's where the investigators lost track of her. She had returned home in the evening without the equipment before disappearing the next day "between 4 and 7 pm".
January, 2018 Request from family to investigate.
This week (4/21/18), the Roux family's lawyer, Me Christian Saint-André, wrote to the public prosecutor of Chambéry, Thierry Dran: "I was contacted by a friend of Lucie Roux. She says she's ready to testify to the investigators. According to her, Lucie had lunch several times before she disappeared, with another friend and Nordahl Lelandais. These meals would have been taken in a common area of the hospital." The lawyer considered the information serious enough to alert the court.
4/26/18: The lawyer for this woman's family recently wrote to the public prosecutor of Chambéry, Thierry Dran: according to a testimony he received, the disappeared woman was hospitalized in the same place as Nordahl Lelandais between 2012 and 2013 and, from the same source, they had lunch together several times in this hospital.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
11/20/19 Update: The file had been selected by the Ariane cell of the gendarmes investigating Nordahl Lelandais.
The parquet floor of Chambéry closed it without further action. Stéphane Chemin, 33 years old, who suffers from schizophrenia, disappeared on 24 September 2012 in Bourg-d' Oisans region (Isère).
Earlier: Probably not a suspect; same region as NL; preliminary investigation. Now on list for investigation: possible link; verification under way. The public prosecutor's office of Grenoble reopened at the beginning of February, 2018 the investigation into the disappearance of Stéphane Chemin, 33 years old, in the Bourg d'Oisans. He disappeared after running away from the ambulance that was transporting him to the hospital.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
"According to information from Dauphiné Libéré, Lelandais was treated until early 2013 by the center of alcoholism in Chambéry because of his heavy dependence on alcohol. He was also treated for depression at the medical-psychological center of Chambéry." Nordahl Lelandais was treated by the medical-psychological center of Chambéry from 2012 to 2013."
Florent Bonnet, 37 years old, who disappeared on 18 January 2014 in Bourg-Saint-Maurice (Savoie). He was on a motorcycle and his two-wheeler was found near the Siaix tunnel, with a helmet on it.
Probably not a victim of NL. Request from family to investigate. Now on list list to be investigated.
Caroline Rivollier, 29 years old 2014 May who lived in Lyon, had told her roommates that she was leaving for a few days but she never came back. What intrigues the investigators is that her credit card was used in
Chambéry three nights in a row.
Her family has asked to reactivate the investigation, according to the ARPD.
Eve Monteil, 49 years old, on 25 August 2014, in Bourg-en-Bresse (Ain). Lucas Tronche, then 15 years old, had disappeared on 18 March 2015, at 5.10 pm, Lucas had planned to go on his kick scooter to a bus stop in the commune of Bagnols-sur-Cèze, where he would take a coach to the public swimming pool in Laudun-l’Ardoise for swimming practice with his 17-year-old brother, Valentin. Valentin left before Lucas, expecting Lucas to join him at the bus stop. Lucas left the family home and locked the door but did not turn up at the bus stop. Valentin attempted to contact Lucas at around 5.30 pm, but Lucas’s mobile phone was switched off. Technical analysis would later reveal that Lucas’s phone was turned off at 5.14 pm, a few minutes before he left the house. Lucas left without his swimming gear, but did leave with a rucksack containing very few items. He did not take any money, a sleeping bag or a knife with him – items that, as a keen scout with a good knowledge of outdoor survival, he would have known to take if he had been planning to leave home. His intentions after leaving the house remain unknown.
Possible link; verification under way.
2/27/18: Checks on the telephone and bank accounts of Nordahl Lelandais were to be carried out in connection with the disappearance of Lucas Tronche in Bagnols-sur-Cèze. Indeed, as we revealed at the end of December, 2017, the suspect has family in the Gard, not far from Bagnols. This week, we learn from our Ebdo colleagues that no link on the telephony side can be connected to Nordahl Lelandais in Lucas' disappearance. And according to the regional daily newspaper, the mobile phone data indicated the presence of the alleged killer of Maëlys in Isère that day. There is nothing to date that can link Nordahl Lelandais to Lucas, Antoine Zoia or Coralie Moussu, the boss of the Nîmes public prosecutor's office confirms.
Update: Police and judges are carrying out investigations this Thursday morning [March 14] in Bagnols-sur-Cèze into the case of Lucas Tronche near the home of the teenager who has been missing since March 2015. NL has been excluded in the disappearance of Lucas.
"Karine (not her real name) and Nordahl met in May 2015 through a dating site. Both are passionate about dogs. Nordahl presents himself as a "warrior" who was in the Legion. A lie. Karine falls under his spell. Lelandais tells her that she is the love of his life, that he even wants to have children with her. But Karine soon realizes that he is cheating on her with other women. And in December 2016, she decides to break up. Lelandais takes this very badly.
Monique Thibert, 62, councillor of Hauteville, suddenly disappeared during a hike on 2 June 2015. However, the facts did not occur on our territory, but in the Grand Morgon massif, in the Hautes Alpes. Monique was a bit ahead of the group she was part of, and the alert was given very quickly. Despite the deployment of a very vast search operation on a clearly identified territory, she was never found. Tuesday around 14:30-15:00. She was hiking in the commune of Crots (Hautes Alpes) when she was lost from sight by her friends during the descent of the Grand Morgon, sector of the relay and the Barn. Crots, where Monique Thibert disappeared, is 200 kms south of Chambéry. She lived in Hauteville Lompnes, in the Bugey area, (where Anne-Charlotte Poncin
disappeared), 70 kms north of Chambéry.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
2/12/20: NL has been ruled as suspect in this case.
Nordine Seghiri, 49, disappeared on 10 July 2015 from a hospital in Chambéry (Savoie).
Request from family to investigate.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
Thomas Rauschkolb: Sunday (December 27, 2015) around 4:50 p.m., the father of an 18-year-old man contacted the gendarmes to report the disappearance of his son. The latter was last seen around 2:30 a.m., during the night from Saturday to Sunday while leaving the "Studio 54" nightclub in Grésy-sur-Aix. The young man left the nightclub, leaving behind his jacket. The gendarmes immediately established a search perimeter around the nightclub, especially to the bridge that spans the Sierroz at this location." Thomas R.'s body was found the next day, in the river. Grésy-sur-Aix is about 25 minutes north of Chambéry, by car. Curious fact: after leaving the nightclub, he takes the opposite direction and follows a dead end passageway. At the end of this alley, he stepped over a fence as he was maybe trying to escape something. In his race, he looses a shoe and falls 14 meters below. His belt was found caught in the grid on the garden side. Why has he taken off his belt? There were marks on his phalanges. As Jean-Christophe Morin, he seemed afraid of someone.
Request from family to investigate.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
12/17/19 Update: A judicial investigation against X has recently been opened, four years after the death of Thomas Rauschkolb, found in a river in Savoy. After a complaint filed with a civil action, his father has recently obtained the opening of a judicial investigation against X for murder. In other words, an investigating judge will now have to shed light on the death.
March, 2021: The judiciary has ordered the exhumation of the body of an 18-year-old man, Thomas Rauschkolb, who died in 2015 in Savoie, to carry out an autopsy, and to examine the possibility of homicide by Nordahl Lelandais. Until now, the death was attributed to an accidental fall into a river after leaving a discotheque. The body of Thomas Rauschkolb was found on 28 December 2015, on the banks of the Sierroz, in Grésy-sur-Aix (Savoie).
Anne-Charlotte Poncin, 30 years old, disappeared on 5 January 2016 in Ambérieu-en-Bugey (Ain). In the morning, she leaves her home on foot to go downtown to look for work.
Request from family to investigate; now on list for investigation. 4/27/18: "The Ambérieux gendarmes asked the Ariane cell to carry out checks," a source close to the file told Le Figaro.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
Antoine Zoia, 16-year-old teenager has not been found since 1 March 2016. He disappeared in Clarensac, near Nîmes, also in the Gard. Antoine was last seen buying a packet of cigarettes from a tobacconist’s shop.
His whereabouts remain unknown and all lines of investigation are being considered. An investigation was launched to establish whether there could be a link between these two disappearances of teenage boys (Lucase Tronche) with similar characteristics from nearby locations in under a year.
10/1/18 Update: His body found on 29 September 2018, a few kilometres from the centre of the village in the Gard. Hunter found his body hanging from tree.
Possible link; verification under way. Now on list for investigation.
5/11/18 update: There is nothing to date that can link Nordahl Lelandais to Lucas, Antoine or Coralie Moussu, the boss of the Nîmes public prosecutor's office confirms.
Ilhan Sahingoz, 39 years old missing from Albertville since 11 April 2016.
Olivier Charpe, 59, never returned from a mountain bike ride on 12 August 2016 in Saint-Romans (Isère).
Georgette Amat Chantoux (Georgette Bonnet), 79 years old, residing in Lumbin. She was reported missing in October 2016, but her phone had not been active since 9 September 2016. Georgette lived alone and had little contact with her family. According to the neighbours, she used go to the mountains to pick blueberries (not mushrooms) in the Belledonne Massif. Her car was found there, in a parking lot. It had been there for weeks. "In the Bonnet case, the only reason for the reopening of the investigation is the geographical proximity (a distance of about 15 kilometers) between the area of [her] disappearance and the places of discovery of Arthur Noyer's bones, in Montmélian, of which Nordahl Lelandais is suspected of murder."
Earlier: Probably not suspect; same region as NL; preliminary investigation. Now on list of: possible link; verification under way.
Éric Foray, 47, disappeared on 16 September 2016, shortly after noon, after he had recently done some shopping in Chatuzange-le-Goubet (Drôme). Request from family to investigate. Thursday 8 March 2018 from the prosecutor's office in Valence have opened & will explore this investigation. Now on list for invstigation.
4/9/18 update: A link has been established between Eric & NL. In NL's address book, investigators found the name of a family member of Eric's. The only connection that could link Eric Foray to Nordahl Lelandais is their respective jobs at some point in their lives. Eric was a representative in wine products and Nordahl Lelandais was a driver and delivery driver in a lemonade company that delivered water and spirits to restaurants and various businesses in the region.
The name found in a notebook of Nordahl Lelandais would be that of a cousin of the disappeared, according to France 3. It remains to be seen how and why Lelandais could have noted this surname. According to several media reports, the name of Eric Foray's cousin was discovered by investigators in Nordahl Lelandais' address book. But neither his family nor his companion seem to know this person.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
End of relationship with Karine - December, 2016
Arthur Noyer, 23 years old, disappeared on 11-12 April 2017 in Chambéry. The night of the young soldier's disappearance, the mobile phones of Lelandais and the corporal triggered several relays in the Chambéry region at the same time. This supports the thesis that both men were traveling in the same car, namely the Audi A3 from Lelandais. The vehicle was filmed by a video surveillance camera in Chambéry. Arthur Noyer disappeared as he hitchhiked around 4 a. m. to get back to his barracks after a night spent in a disco. The investigators said he got into Nordahl Lelandeis' car. On February 5, 2018, Nordahl admitted to having picked him up without confessing that he had murdered him.
Indicted on 12/20/17 for this murder. 3/29/18 confessed to killing Noyer. During the hearing on 29 March, 2018 NL spontaneously admitted that he gave a lift to Arthur who was very drunk (très alcoolisé). A fight erupted (BFM says that so far it is unknown if in the car or out), and NL violently punched Arthur who fell and died. Then NL transported Arthur body in a remote place.
Adrien Mourialmé, 24 years old, disappeared in 5 July 2017 on the shores of Lake Annecy (Haute-Savoie). The young man disappeared without taking his belongings. His bank account and phone have not been active since July 4th. He left most of his belongings at the hotel where he was working as a cook in Talloires-Montmin (Haute-Savoie), and vanished. 2/24/18: The study of telephony, in the case of the young cook, is completed. Paris Match has learned that it has given nothing. "Nor does it mean that Nordahl Lelandais was not on the scene," said Belgian family lawyer Stéphane Decamp. He could have turned off his phone well before the fact. Mr.
Decamp hopes that the investigation will not be abandoned, despite this element." Found 9 months later on April 6, 2018 hanging from a tree in Talloires-Montmin.
Possible link; verification under way. Now on list for investigation. Prosecutors declare NL probably not involved with this crime.
4/9/18 Update: The public prosecutor's office in Annecy has not ruled out any possibility to date. 4/27/18: In this case, the body of the 24-year-old Belgian was found and the "criminal trail seems ruled out", reports L'Obs.
On July 18, 2017, a month before Maëlys' kidnapping, Nordahl becomes even more violent: "While driving his car, Lelandais sped up toward my client who was in her car, relates Gallo. She says she narrowly escaped the collision and an accident. Frightened, she decides to go to the authorities to file a complaint. But Lelandais tries to dissuade her. He follows her. "And when she arrives in front of the gendarmerie of Pont-de-Beauvoisin, Lelandais is already there," said Gallo.
But Karine does not give up. "The gendarmes took her complaint and the prosecutor's office in Chambéry filed the complaint as endangering the lives of others with immediate risk of death. Which is not minor!" exclaims Mr. Ronald Gallo, adding that this complaint has not had consequences.
Maëlys De Araujo, 9 years old, disappeared at Pont-de-Beauvoisin in 27 August 2017. Her bones were discovery on February 14 and 15 at the foot of Mont Grêle in Savoie.
Indicted for this murder on 9/3/17; 2/14/18 confessed to killing Maëlys "accidentally" and led investigators to her body in the woods of Attignat-Oncin, on the heights of Lake Aiguebelette (Savoie) Nordahl Lelandais was indicted in the Arthur Noyer and Maëlys de Araujo cases, for which he pleaded responsiblity for an accident. He has not been implicated in any other case at this time.
The mission of this dedicated team consists of two stages. The first step is to take a closer look at Nordahl Lelandais' life course, interviewing all the judicial bases but also private service providers such as telephone operators, banks and insurance companies. In the jargon of the gendarmes, this work aims to "fix in time and space" the suspect. Concretely, it consists in finding his various addresses, the places he frequented, his employers, his friends, his banking movements, his old vehicles and mobile phones. Has it been checked anywhere? What gyms did he use? What nightclubs? The objective is to go back as far as possible in time. The thousands of data collected will then be compared with the information available to investigators on all unsolved disappearance cases, through the AnaCrim software. This 360-strong unit was created in the 1990s, when Constable Jean-François Abgrall headed the investigation unit devoted to the "murder backpacker" Francis Heaulme. Since then, the system has made possible to implicate the serial killer Patrice Alègre for certain crimes and it was used to revive the case of little Gregory, in early 2017. AnaCrim makes it possible to create relational diagrams and chronologies, even when the protagonists of a file are very numerous. Investigators have already been able to exclude Nordahl Lelandais' involvement in three cold cases: the disappearance of little Estelle Mouzin in 2003 in Guermantes (Seine-et-Marne), since he was on mission in French Guiana at that time; the Chevaline massacre in September 2012 in Savoie, and the disappearance of Lucas Tronche in March 2015 in the Gard. In this case, however, the courts are awaiting final results. "We have a number of elements that lead us to believe that he was not in the Gard at the time. But as long as we are not sure, it is an element on which we continue to work", the public prosecutor of Nîmes indicated.
NL Indicted for these murders
Investigation of NL connected to these cases.
Families requested investigation.
NL excluded from these cases.
Families at Lyon meeting 4/27/18. 5/18/18 update: The families of the missing will meet again in September, 2018 to review the investigations.
One of 40 cases being investigated by the Ariane Cell group.
Nordahl Lelandais in April 2001, he joined the 132nd dog battalion of Suippes (Marne). NL was 19 years old at the beginning of his first stay in January 2003 in French Guyana. He participated in guard missions within his battalion, as part of two short-term missions. He was 22 at the end of his second stay on Guyanese soil. NL would be discharged in 2007, at the age of 24, for psychological disorders.
He had enlisted for five years, he only lasted four, and was struck off in April 2005. Re another article says: He will have had time to obtain a basic certificate of dog handler, to perform two missions of four month was stationed in Suippes (Marne), in the 132nd Army Dog Battalion, between 2001 and 2007.
The ex-military is "noticed" in October 2008, with two accomplices, engaging in a battle of eggs and fruits in a supermarket, by burning tricolor flags, and a restaurant in Paladru (Isère). He will be sentenced to one year in prison, but received a sentence adjustment.
Under an electronic bracelet starting April 2009. He was released on parole in October 2010.
Per Twitter reporter: He was never effectively in prison, he 'served' 12 months with an ankle bracelet (April 2009 to April 2010). Reporter: Le Midi Libre published an article with the testimony of a friend of Lelandais. He tells that the latter regularly came to Montpellier to party between 2008 and 2012.
Wondering "what" day he was released from ankle bracelet, as Adrien Fiorello was killed; was he anxious to kill again on the 6th?
Estelle Mouzin, 9, disappeared on 9 January 2003 in Guermantes (Seine-et-Marne), around 6 pm between her house and her school. Nordahl Lelandais was 19 years old, he was at the military camp of Suippes (Marne), 150 kilometers away but was sent on a mission to the East at the time of the disappearance.
In the Estelle Mouzin case, it was enough for the investigators to question the army to learn that he was on a mission in Guyana at the time of the girl's disappearance in 2003 in Seine-et-Marne. Excluded: File is closed.
Serial killer Michel Fourniret has confessed to the murder of Estelle Mouzin in 2003.
Nordahl started his dog training business in Chambéry in February 2010, business can be placed near the Chambéry train station starting in 2010. According to Google Maps, it is only 550 meters away: a 7 minute walk, or a 3 minute drive. The Chambéry train station was said to be the last location where Adrien Fiorello's phone pinged. The head office of this company was located 317 rue Nicolas Parent - 73000 Chambery In 2010, Nordahl Lalandais: *was on ankle monitor from April 2009 to January 2010
The articles I could find just say that he was condemned to 1 year of ankle bracelet at the end of April 2009. However, pursuant to the Criminal procedure code, there is an automatic 3-month reduction of sentence for the first year (and more if the person has a job prospect or resumes studies, the goal being reinsertion). It means that NL was probably without his ankle bracelet end of January 2010 at the latest. *was somewhere with an ankle monitor from April 2009 to January 2010 *registered the start of his dog training company in Chambéry in February 2010 *became depressed and passed a while in the psychiatric hospital in Chambéry OR was an out-patient from 2012 to 2013.
Adlène Kifani, 18 - one of the oldest cases - who no longer gave any sign of life after making a brief call to 17 [ police help!] number after leaving her family home to meet with his friends & have a drink at a bar in Portes-lès-Valence (Drôme) on 16 April, 2009 only a few dozen meters away.
A few days later, the Valence Public Prosecutor's Office opened a judicial investigation for kidnapping and sequestration.
On Ariane cell list.
Rachid Rameche, disappeared in 2009 June 10, in Bassens (Savoie) while he was in a psychiatric institution. He withdrew the amount of his adult disability benefits before he disappeared. He was staying in the same centre that Lucie Roux and Nordahl Lelandais attended between 2012 and 2013.
Request from family to investigate. At the beginning of the year (2018), the file on the death of his daughter was transmitted to a cell of the national gendarmerie, established to work on Nordhal Lelandais.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
Rachid was seen and identified in Strasbourg in 2009 after his disappearance. He may be in Belgium where he was fined in 2009 and 2014.
Coralie Moussu - the autopsy of the body of the 32-year-old woman, found in the Rhône in December, reveals that she did not drown. The investigators are back to square one and are now focusing on the criminal track. Coralie Moussu's car, a black Nissan Micra with 2899 YZ 30 registration, car has never been found. The young woman was last seen inside this vehicle on the morning of November 6, 2009. She had just dropped her daughter off at her mother's house for two hours, while she was preparing the exam to take a CAP [Certificate of Professional Competence] early childhood.
Now on list for investigation.
May 11, 2018 Update: The Gard are taking a closer look into this case with any link to NL.
Nicolas Suppo, 30 years old, a technical specialist disappeared on 15 September 2010 near Echirolles. He disappeared during his lunch break. His coworkers saw him at work in the morning. He had neither his identity papers nor his blue card with him, France Bleu Isère reported. The case was closed without further action in 2014, then reopened at the beginning of the year (2018) by the Grenoble court.
Earlier: Probably not a suspect; same region as NL; preliminary investigation. Now on list of: possible link; verification under way.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
Adrien Fiorello, a 22-year-old student who disappeared on 6 October 2010 in Firminy (Loire) while he was on his way to the university in Chambéry (Savoie). The young man's cell phone last pinged in Chambéry (train station) at 5:37 p.m. on October 6, 2010. We don't know if it was ever physically located. Chambéry is where Nordahl Lelandais had a dog breeding business at that time. He was supposed to be in Saint-Étienne, not Chambéry, the day he vanished. Saint-Étienne is where he went to university classes. How his phone ended up in
Chambéry is still a mystery. The two cities are about 150 kilometers apart.
3/19/18 Update: According to information from BFM TV, the gendarmes will investigate the disappearance of Adrien Fiorello after the prosecutor's office in Saint-Etienne requested the prosecutor's office in Chambéry to formally attach the file. An initial investigation had determined that his mobile phone had pinged in Chambéry. Nordahl Lelandais was living in Chambéry at the time. The court has ordered further
investigations.
Possible link, verification under way. Case has been reopened; now on list for investigation.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
Nelly Balmain was 29 when she leaves the family home of Saint-Jean-en-Royans (Drôme) on a scooter, without reappearing. She disappears on 8 August 2011. On 11 January 2018, the Public Prosecutor's Office in
Valence reopened the investigation into the disappearance of Nelly Balmain, aged 29, which had been closed in 2015. The young woman had left her parents' home in Saint-Jean-en-Royans never to reappear, her scooter was never found.
Earlier: Verification in progress; request from family to investigate. On 11 January 2018, the prosecutor also reopened this investigation. Now on list for investigation. 4/27/18 met with investigating Judge for 4 hours.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
Jean-Christophe Morin, 23, disappeared on 9-10 September 2011 during an electro party at Tamié Fort in Albertville (Savoie). The gendarmes only found his backpack. In L'Obs, Jean-Christophe Morin's lawyer states that his family still has two telephones that belonged to him and that they have not yet been seized by the courts.
Possible link; verification under way; on list for investigation.
Family Attorney at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
Kévin Fauvel, 27, on the night of 1-2-3 April 2012, left the community of Jansiac, located in Châteauneuf-Miravail, in the Jabron Valley. Since then, his family has no news. Jansiac is a small group trying
to live autonomously in the Alpes-de-Haute-Provence. He was supposed to hitch a ride to his mother's house in Brittany. Ten days later, his father found his identity papers in Jansiac, without any further explanation about this mysterious disappearance. The gendarmes closed their investigation in March 2017. It was reopened last February, as Kevin may have crossed the Rhône Valley and Isère, places frequented by Nordahl Lelandais.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
2/12/20: NL has been ruled out as suspect for this case.
Malik Boutvillain, 32, disappeared on 6 May 2012 in Echirolles (Isère). He was out jogging.
Earlier: Probably not a suspect; same region as NL; preliminary investigation. Now on list of: possible suspect; verification under way. The investigation had been closed but the Grenoble prosecutor
reopened it in early February 2018. He suffers from schizophrenia.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
Hugo Raffi, 18 years old, who left home in flip-flops, without a mobile phone and without papers in Albertville (Savoie) in 15, June 2012.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
Ahmed Hamadou, 45, disappeared in 7-8 September 2012 at Fort Tamié (Savoie). According to this 2012 article Yan and Ahmed (who knew each other since one week) arrived together in the car at 4am, then Yan got into two fights with the festival security, lost his cell phone and broke his glasses. He left quite hurriedly alone in his car, leaving Ahmed behind (4 witnesses confirm this). He arrived at a friend's place at 6am, telling him he went to the gendarmerie (for his cell phone?). They tried to call Ahmed but could not reach him. Then Yan left and disappeared for 15 days. "Hamadou was from Le-Pont-de-Beauvoisin, he knew Nordahl," his lawyer adds. Nordahl Lelandais grew up partly in this commune of Isère, it was also there that the wedding party was organised during which Maëlys disappeared last summer.
On list for investigation. Possible link; verification under way.
Family Attorney at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
9/8/18 Update: Amateur video does not show NL in it. But still on list for investigation.
On Ariane cell list.
A skull found in mid-October, 2020 by a walker under the Fort de Tamié (Savoie) is very likely that of the 40 year-old, who disappeared after a music festival in September 2012.
Lucie Roux, 43, disappears on 16 September 2012 while residing in the psychiatric centre in Bassens in Chambéry (Savoie). She was treated from 2006 to 2012 at Bassens for depression and had 3 roommates. And it seems that Nordahl Lelandais was followed by the medical-psychological center of Chambéry from 2012 to 2013. The 43 years old, this woman [Lucie Roux] was due to leave the psychiatric hospital of Bassens in the months to come. On September 16, 2012,
Lucie had not told her three roommates where she wanted to go. Equipped with a small backpack, she left without her mobile phone, papers or credit card. The investigation showed that the day before she went to a DIY store to buy plywood boards, nails and screws in cash before being taken by taxi to the Monts district in Chambéry in a forest. That's where the investigators lost track of her. She had returned home in the evening without the equipment before disappearing the next day "between 4 and 7 pm".
January, 2018 Request from family to investigate.
This week (4/21/18), the Roux family's lawyer, Me Christian Saint-André, wrote to the public prosecutor of Chambéry, Thierry Dran: "I was contacted by a friend of Lucie Roux. She says she's ready to testify to the investigators. According to her, Lucie had lunch several times before she disappeared, with another friend and Nordahl Lelandais. These meals would have been taken in a common area of the hospital." The lawyer considered the information serious enough to alert the court.
4/26/18: The lawyer for this woman's family recently wrote to the public prosecutor of Chambéry, Thierry Dran: according to a testimony he received, the disappeared woman was hospitalized in the same place as Nordahl Lelandais between 2012 and 2013 and, from the same source, they had lunch together several times in this hospital.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
11/20/19 Update: The file had been selected by the Ariane cell of the gendarmes investigating Nordahl Lelandais.
The parquet floor of Chambéry closed it without further action. Stéphane Chemin, 33 years old, who suffers from schizophrenia, disappeared on 24 September 2012 in Bourg-d' Oisans region (Isère).
Earlier: Probably not a suspect; same region as NL; preliminary investigation. Now on list for investigation: possible link; verification under way. The public prosecutor's office of Grenoble reopened at the beginning of February, 2018 the investigation into the disappearance of Stéphane Chemin, 33 years old, in the Bourg d'Oisans. He disappeared after running away from the ambulance that was transporting him to the hospital.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
"According to information from Dauphiné Libéré, Lelandais was treated until early 2013 by the center of alcoholism in Chambéry because of his heavy dependence on alcohol. He was also treated for depression at the medical-psychological center of Chambéry." Nordahl Lelandais was treated by the medical-psychological center of Chambéry from 2012 to 2013."
Florent Bonnet, 37 years old, who disappeared on 18 January 2014 in Bourg-Saint-Maurice (Savoie). He was on a motorcycle and his two-wheeler was found near the Siaix tunnel, with a helmet on it.
Probably not a victim of NL. Request from family to investigate. Now on list list to be investigated.
Caroline Rivollier, 29 years old 2014 May who lived in Lyon, had told her roommates that she was leaving for a few days but she never came back. What intrigues the investigators is that her credit card was used in
Chambéry three nights in a row.
Her family has asked to reactivate the investigation, according to the ARPD.
Eve Monteil, 49 years old, on 25 August 2014, in Bourg-en-Bresse (Ain). Lucas Tronche, then 15 years old, had disappeared on 18 March 2015, at 5.10 pm, Lucas had planned to go on his kick scooter to a bus stop in the commune of Bagnols-sur-Cèze, where he would take a coach to the public swimming pool in Laudun-l’Ardoise for swimming practice with his 17-year-old brother, Valentin. Valentin left before Lucas, expecting Lucas to join him at the bus stop. Lucas left the family home and locked the door but did not turn up at the bus stop. Valentin attempted to contact Lucas at around 5.30 pm, but Lucas’s mobile phone was switched off. Technical analysis would later reveal that Lucas’s phone was turned off at 5.14 pm, a few minutes before he left the house. Lucas left without his swimming gear, but did leave with a rucksack containing very few items. He did not take any money, a sleeping bag or a knife with him – items that, as a keen scout with a good knowledge of outdoor survival, he would have known to take if he had been planning to leave home. His intentions after leaving the house remain unknown.
Possible link; verification under way.
2/27/18: Checks on the telephone and bank accounts of Nordahl Lelandais were to be carried out in connection with the disappearance of Lucas Tronche in Bagnols-sur-Cèze. Indeed, as we revealed at the end of December, 2017, the suspect has family in the Gard, not far from Bagnols. This week, we learn from our Ebdo colleagues that no link on the telephony side can be connected to Nordahl Lelandais in Lucas' disappearance. And according to the regional daily newspaper, the mobile phone data indicated the presence of the alleged killer of Maëlys in Isère that day. There is nothing to date that can link Nordahl Lelandais to Lucas, Antoine Zoia or Coralie Moussu, the boss of the Nîmes public prosecutor's office confirms.
Update: Police and judges are carrying out investigations this Thursday morning [March 14] in Bagnols-sur-Cèze into the case of Lucas Tronche near the home of the teenager who has been missing since March 2015. NL has been excluded in the disappearance of Lucas.
"Karine (not her real name) and Nordahl met in May 2015 through a dating site. Both are passionate about dogs. Nordahl presents himself as a "warrior" who was in the Legion. A lie. Karine falls under his spell. Lelandais tells her that she is the love of his life, that he even wants to have children with her. But Karine soon realizes that he is cheating on her with other women. And in December 2016, she decides to break up. Lelandais takes this very badly.
Monique Thibert, 62, councillor of Hauteville, suddenly disappeared during a hike on 2 June 2015. However, the facts did not occur on our territory, but in the Grand Morgon massif, in the Hautes Alpes. Monique was a bit ahead of the group she was part of, and the alert was given very quickly. Despite the deployment of a very vast search operation on a clearly identified territory, she was never found. Tuesday around 14:30-15:00. She was hiking in the commune of Crots (Hautes Alpes) when she was lost from sight by her friends during the descent of the Grand Morgon, sector of the relay and the Barn. Crots, where Monique Thibert disappeared, is 200 kms south of Chambéry. She lived in Hauteville Lompnes, in the Bugey area, (where Anne-Charlotte Poncin
disappeared), 70 kms north of Chambéry.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
2/12/20: NL has been ruled as suspect in this case.
Nordine Seghiri, 49, disappeared on 10 July 2015 from a hospital in Chambéry (Savoie).
Request from family to investigate.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
Thomas Rauschkolb: Sunday (December 27, 2015) around 4:50 p.m., the father of an 18-year-old man contacted the gendarmes to report the disappearance of his son. The latter was last seen around 2:30 a.m., during the night from Saturday to Sunday while leaving the "Studio 54" nightclub in Grésy-sur-Aix. The young man left the nightclub, leaving behind his jacket. The gendarmes immediately established a search perimeter around the nightclub, especially to the bridge that spans the Sierroz at this location." Thomas R.'s body was found the next day, in the river. Grésy-sur-Aix is about 25 minutes north of Chambéry, by car. Curious fact: after leaving the nightclub, he takes the opposite direction and follows a dead end passageway. At the end of this alley, he stepped over a fence as he was maybe trying to escape something. In his race, he looses a shoe and falls 14 meters below. His belt was found caught in the grid on the garden side. Why has he taken off his belt? There were marks on his phalanges. As Jean-Christophe Morin, he seemed afraid of someone.
Request from family to investigate.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
12/17/19 Update: A judicial investigation against X has recently been opened, four years after the death of Thomas Rauschkolb, found in a river in Savoy. After a complaint filed with a civil action, his father has recently obtained the opening of a judicial investigation against X for murder. In other words, an investigating judge will now have to shed light on the death.
March, 2021: The judiciary has ordered the exhumation of the body of an 18-year-old man, Thomas Rauschkolb, who died in 2015 in Savoie, to carry out an autopsy, and to examine the possibility of homicide by Nordahl Lelandais. Until now, the death was attributed to an accidental fall into a river after leaving a discotheque. The body of Thomas Rauschkolb was found on 28 December 2015, on the banks of the Sierroz, in Grésy-sur-Aix (Savoie).
Anne-Charlotte Poncin, 30 years old, disappeared on 5 January 2016 in Ambérieu-en-Bugey (Ain). In the morning, she leaves her home on foot to go downtown to look for work.
Request from family to investigate; now on list for investigation. 4/27/18: "The Ambérieux gendarmes asked the Ariane cell to carry out checks," a source close to the file told Le Figaro.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
Antoine Zoia, 16-year-old teenager has not been found since 1 March 2016. He disappeared in Clarensac, near Nîmes, also in the Gard. Antoine was last seen buying a packet of cigarettes from a tobacconist’s shop.
His whereabouts remain unknown and all lines of investigation are being considered. An investigation was launched to establish whether there could be a link between these two disappearances of teenage boys (Lucase Tronche) with similar characteristics from nearby locations in under a year.
10/1/18 Update: His body found on 29 September 2018, a few kilometres from the centre of the village in the Gard. Hunter found his body hanging from tree.
Possible link; verification under way. Now on list for investigation.
5/11/18 update: There is nothing to date that can link Nordahl Lelandais to Lucas, Antoine or Coralie Moussu, the boss of the Nîmes public prosecutor's office confirms.
Ilhan Sahingoz, 39 years old missing from Albertville since 11 April 2016.
Olivier Charpe, 59, never returned from a mountain bike ride on 12 August 2016 in Saint-Romans (Isère).
Georgette Amat Chantoux (Georgette Bonnet), 79 years old, residing in Lumbin. She was reported missing in October 2016, but her phone had not been active since 9 September 2016. Georgette lived alone and had little contact with her family. According to the neighbours, she used go to the mountains to pick blueberries (not mushrooms) in the Belledonne Massif. Her car was found there, in a parking lot. It had been there for weeks. "In the Bonnet case, the only reason for the reopening of the investigation is the geographical proximity (a distance of about 15 kilometers) between the area of [her] disappearance and the places of discovery of Arthur Noyer's bones, in Montmélian, of which Nordahl Lelandais is suspected of murder."
Earlier: Probably not suspect; same region as NL; preliminary investigation. Now on list of: possible link; verification under way.
Éric Foray, 47, disappeared on 16 September 2016, shortly after noon, after he had recently done some shopping in Chatuzange-le-Goubet (Drôme). Request from family to investigate. Thursday 8 March 2018 from the prosecutor's office in Valence have opened & will explore this investigation. Now on list for invstigation.
4/9/18 update: A link has been established between Eric & NL. In NL's address book, investigators found the name of a family member of Eric's. The only connection that could link Eric Foray to Nordahl Lelandais is their respective jobs at some point in their lives. Eric was a representative in wine products and Nordahl Lelandais was a driver and delivery driver in a lemonade company that delivered water and spirits to restaurants and various businesses in the region.
The name found in a notebook of Nordahl Lelandais would be that of a cousin of the disappeared, according to France 3. It remains to be seen how and why Lelandais could have noted this surname. According to several media reports, the name of Eric Foray's cousin was discovered by investigators in Nordahl Lelandais' address book. But neither his family nor his companion seem to know this person.
Family at 4/27/18 Lyon meeting.
On Ariane cell list.
End of relationship with Karine - December, 2016
Arthur Noyer, 23 years old, disappeared on 11-12 April 2017 in Chambéry. The night of the young soldier's disappearance, the mobile phones of Lelandais and the corporal triggered several relays in the Chambéry region at the same time. This supports the thesis that both men were traveling in the same car, namely the Audi A3 from Lelandais. The vehicle was filmed by a video surveillance camera in Chambéry. Arthur Noyer disappeared as he hitchhiked around 4 a. m. to get back to his barracks after a night spent in a disco. The investigators said he got into Nordahl Lelandeis' car. On February 5, 2018, Nordahl admitted to having picked him up without confessing that he had murdered him.
Indicted on 12/20/17 for this murder. 3/29/18 confessed to killing Noyer. During the hearing on 29 March, 2018 NL spontaneously admitted that he gave a lift to Arthur who was very drunk (très alcoolisé). A fight erupted (BFM says that so far it is unknown if in the car or out), and NL violently punched Arthur who fell and died. Then NL transported Arthur body in a remote place.
Adrien Mourialmé, 24 years old, disappeared in 5 July 2017 on the shores of Lake Annecy (Haute-Savoie). The young man disappeared without taking his belongings. His bank account and phone have not been active since July 4th. He left most of his belongings at the hotel where he was working as a cook in Talloires-Montmin (Haute-Savoie), and vanished. 2/24/18: The study of telephony, in the case of the young cook, is completed. Paris Match has learned that it has given nothing. "Nor does it mean that Nordahl Lelandais was not on the scene," said Belgian family lawyer Stéphane Decamp. He could have turned off his phone well before the fact. Mr.
Decamp hopes that the investigation will not be abandoned, despite this element." Found 9 months later on April 6, 2018 hanging from a tree in Talloires-Montmin.
Possible link; verification under way. Now on list for investigation. Prosecutors declare NL probably not involved with this crime.
4/9/18 Update: The public prosecutor's office in Annecy has not ruled out any possibility to date. 4/27/18: In this case, the body of the 24-year-old Belgian was found and the "criminal trail seems ruled out", reports L'Obs.
On July 18, 2017, a month before Maëlys' kidnapping, Nordahl becomes even more violent: "While driving his car, Lelandais sped up toward my client who was in her car, relates Gallo. She says she narrowly escaped the collision and an accident. Frightened, she decides to go to the authorities to file a complaint. But Lelandais tries to dissuade her. He follows her. "And when she arrives in front of the gendarmerie of Pont-de-Beauvoisin, Lelandais is already there," said Gallo.
But Karine does not give up. "The gendarmes took her complaint and the prosecutor's office in Chambéry filed the complaint as endangering the lives of others with immediate risk of death. Which is not minor!" exclaims Mr. Ronald Gallo, adding that this complaint has not had consequences.
Maëlys De Araujo, 9 years old, disappeared at Pont-de-Beauvoisin in 27 August 2017. Her bones were discovery on February 14 and 15 at the foot of Mont Grêle in Savoie.
Indicted for this murder on 9/3/17; 2/14/18 confessed to killing Maëlys "accidentally" and led investigators to her body in the woods of Attignat-Oncin, on the heights of Lake Aiguebelette (Savoie) Nordahl Lelandais was indicted in the Arthur Noyer and Maëlys de Araujo cases, for which he pleaded responsiblity for an accident. He has not been implicated in any other case at this time.
The mission of this dedicated team consists of two stages. The first step is to take a closer look at Nordahl Lelandais' life course, interviewing all the judicial bases but also private service providers such as telephone operators, banks and insurance companies. In the jargon of the gendarmes, this work aims to "fix in time and space" the suspect. Concretely, it consists in finding his various addresses, the places he frequented, his employers, his friends, his banking movements, his old vehicles and mobile phones. Has it been checked anywhere? What gyms did he use? What nightclubs? The objective is to go back as far as possible in time. The thousands of data collected will then be compared with the information available to investigators on all unsolved disappearance cases, through the AnaCrim software. This 360-strong unit was created in the 1990s, when Constable Jean-François Abgrall headed the investigation unit devoted to the "murder backpacker" Francis Heaulme. Since then, the system has made possible to implicate the serial killer Patrice Alègre for certain crimes and it was used to revive the case of little Gregory, in early 2017. AnaCrim makes it possible to create relational diagrams and chronologies, even when the protagonists of a file are very numerous. Investigators have already been able to exclude Nordahl Lelandais' involvement in three cold cases: the disappearance of little Estelle Mouzin in 2003 in Guermantes (Seine-et-Marne), since he was on mission in French Guiana at that time; the Chevaline massacre in September 2012 in Savoie, and the disappearance of Lucas Tronche in March 2015 in the Gard. In this case, however, the courts are awaiting final results. "We have a number of elements that lead us to believe that he was not in the Gard at the time. But as long as we are not sure, it is an element on which we continue to work", the public prosecutor of Nîmes indicated.
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Meurtre de la petite Maëlys : «Une action menée avec lucidité et sang froid»
Murder of little Maëlys: "An act carried out with lucidity and cold blood"
INFO LE PARISIEN. After three and a half years of investigations, the prosecutor's office of Grenoble requested the referral to the Court of Assizes of Nordahl Lelandais for the murder of Maëlys, aged 9, during a night of August 2017.
The prospect of a trial for the murder of the little Maëlys, aged 9, is approaching for Nordahl Lelandais. In a final indictment issued on 18 March, the public prosecutor's office in Grenoble (Isère) requested the investigating magistrates to indict the ex-military man for murder preceded by the crime of "kidnapping and confinement of a minor under 15 years." The facts date back to the night of 26 to 27 August 2017, during a wedding party organised in the commune of Pont de Beauvoisin (Isère).
Placed a first time in custody only four days after the disappearance of Maëlys, Nordahl Lelandais, 34 years at the time, initially denied any involvement for nearly six months. He then confessed that he had "involuntarily killed this poor girl", in his own words, after the discovery of a bloodstain in the trunk of his Audi 3. On his indications, Maëlys' body was found on the heights of Attignat-Oncin (Savoie) in a trench surrounded by rocks. Lelandais then explained that the little girl claimed to have the permission of her mother. She had boarded his car of her own free will, because she wanted to see his dogs. This was in the middle of the night, a little before 3am.
"The version of Lelandais according to which Maëlys would have gone into the car voluntarily is not supported by any evidence and is on the contrary contradicted by all the investigations," according to the prosecutor, who points out "the false and evolving positions" of the accused.
On the way, Maëlys began to "whine" (a term used by Lelandais), to panic and she wanted to return to the village hall where the wedding night was taking place. While driving and in an "incomprehensible" gesture, the suspect, athletic (1m83 fand 85 kg) and keen on Thai boxing, is said to have struck her with at least three or four very violent blows with a closed fist. These blows to the face were probably fatal, even if the cause of Maëlys' death could not be clearly established.
After depositing the lifeless body of his victim near a railway track, Nordahl Lelandais then returned home to change his bloodstained white shorts. Before returning to Pont-de-Beauvoisin, where the disappearance of the child had just been noted, to forge an alibi. And it was only afterwards, at the end of the night, that he got rid of Maëlys' body, along a path in a forest.
In this final indictment after three and a half years of investigation, there is no question of rape charges, "for lack of sufficient evidence." However, the prosecutor's office did not hesitate to highlight the heavy weight of evidence in the case. A single man addicted to sex, attracted to both women and men, Lelandais also seems interested in children. "The context of sexual attraction to little girls (which Nordahl Lelandais underestimates), the diagnosis of paedophilia, the regular and repeated consultation of child *advertiser censored* sites [...] are all elements that allow us to consider that the facts may have taken place at the same time as sexual offences against Maëlys," the deputy prosecutor of the Republic in Grenoble writes. Without forgetting to refer to the testimony of one of Lelandais's fellow prisoners who would have collected his detailed confidences.
In the secrecy of their cell, he would have confided to him that he had raped the 9 year old girl by digital penetration, in the back of his car. In an attempt to explain the punches to the child's face and the attack on her, Lelandais, according to his cellmate, even said that he acted "as if the devil was inside him and that he was seeing Arthur Noyer's face again." Arthur Noyer, the military man went missing on 12 April 2017, four months before the death of Maëlys. Put under examination for murder in this case, Nordahl Lelandais admitted to have killed the 23-year-old corporal, near Chambéry, after a fight. But in the office of the judge in charge of the Maëlys case, Nordahl Lelandais has always refuted having made the remarks that his fellow prisoner attributes to him.
In any case, the idea defended so far by the defense of a momentary loss of contact with reality, under the influence of alcohol and cocaine, is dismissed by the prosecution. "The numerous precautions taken throughout his journey (editor's note: on the night of 27 August 2017) are indicative of a real presence of mind and an action carried out with lucidity and cold blood."
When contacted, Alain Jakubowicz, Nordahl Lelandais' lawyer, did not wish to comment.
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Murder of little Maëlys: "An act carried out with lucidity and cold blood"
INFO LE PARISIEN. After three and a half years of investigations, the prosecutor's office of Grenoble requested the referral to the Court of Assizes of Nordahl Lelandais for the murder of Maëlys, aged 9, during a night of August 2017.
The prospect of a trial for the murder of the little Maëlys, aged 9, is approaching for Nordahl Lelandais. In a final indictment issued on 18 March, the public prosecutor's office in Grenoble (Isère) requested the investigating magistrates to indict the ex-military man for murder preceded by the crime of "kidnapping and confinement of a minor under 15 years." The facts date back to the night of 26 to 27 August 2017, during a wedding party organised in the commune of Pont de Beauvoisin (Isère).
Placed a first time in custody only four days after the disappearance of Maëlys, Nordahl Lelandais, 34 years at the time, initially denied any involvement for nearly six months. He then confessed that he had "involuntarily killed this poor girl", in his own words, after the discovery of a bloodstain in the trunk of his Audi 3. On his indications, Maëlys' body was found on the heights of Attignat-Oncin (Savoie) in a trench surrounded by rocks. Lelandais then explained that the little girl claimed to have the permission of her mother. She had boarded his car of her own free will, because she wanted to see his dogs. This was in the middle of the night, a little before 3am.
"The version of Lelandais according to which Maëlys would have gone into the car voluntarily is not supported by any evidence and is on the contrary contradicted by all the investigations," according to the prosecutor, who points out "the false and evolving positions" of the accused.
On the way, Maëlys began to "whine" (a term used by Lelandais), to panic and she wanted to return to the village hall where the wedding night was taking place. While driving and in an "incomprehensible" gesture, the suspect, athletic (1m83 fand 85 kg) and keen on Thai boxing, is said to have struck her with at least three or four very violent blows with a closed fist. These blows to the face were probably fatal, even if the cause of Maëlys' death could not be clearly established.
After depositing the lifeless body of his victim near a railway track, Nordahl Lelandais then returned home to change his bloodstained white shorts. Before returning to Pont-de-Beauvoisin, where the disappearance of the child had just been noted, to forge an alibi. And it was only afterwards, at the end of the night, that he got rid of Maëlys' body, along a path in a forest.
In this final indictment after three and a half years of investigation, there is no question of rape charges, "for lack of sufficient evidence." However, the prosecutor's office did not hesitate to highlight the heavy weight of evidence in the case. A single man addicted to sex, attracted to both women and men, Lelandais also seems interested in children. "The context of sexual attraction to little girls (which Nordahl Lelandais underestimates), the diagnosis of paedophilia, the regular and repeated consultation of child *advertiser censored* sites [...] are all elements that allow us to consider that the facts may have taken place at the same time as sexual offences against Maëlys," the deputy prosecutor of the Republic in Grenoble writes. Without forgetting to refer to the testimony of one of Lelandais's fellow prisoners who would have collected his detailed confidences.
In the secrecy of their cell, he would have confided to him that he had raped the 9 year old girl by digital penetration, in the back of his car. In an attempt to explain the punches to the child's face and the attack on her, Lelandais, according to his cellmate, even said that he acted "as if the devil was inside him and that he was seeing Arthur Noyer's face again." Arthur Noyer, the military man went missing on 12 April 2017, four months before the death of Maëlys. Put under examination for murder in this case, Nordahl Lelandais admitted to have killed the 23-year-old corporal, near Chambéry, after a fight. But in the office of the judge in charge of the Maëlys case, Nordahl Lelandais has always refuted having made the remarks that his fellow prisoner attributes to him.
In any case, the idea defended so far by the defense of a momentary loss of contact with reality, under the influence of alcohol and cocaine, is dismissed by the prosecution. "The numerous precautions taken throughout his journey (editor's note: on the night of 27 August 2017) are indicative of a real presence of mind and an action carried out with lucidity and cold blood."
When contacted, Alain Jakubowicz, Nordahl Lelandais' lawyer, did not wish to comment.
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I still don't get how and why this thread was moved to 'Currently Awaiting Trial'. This was already done before I posted about the official request for a trial. There was no earlier mention, and the offcial decision is recent. WTF is going on?
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Savoie : Thomas Rauschkolb est-il une nouvelle victime présumée de Nordahl Lelandais ?
After little Maëlys and Corporal Arthur Noyer, could Thomas Rauschkolb from Savoie be another victim of Nordahl Lelandais? To find out, a judge in Chambéry has ordered the exhumation of the 18-year-old, who died in 2015, in order to conduct an autopsy.
On 28 December 2015, the body of Thomas Rauschkolb, 18, was found on the banks of a river near Chambéry, in Savoie. Did he cross paths with Nordahl Lelandais? His father is convinced, and has never believed in the theory of the accident, favored by the gendarmes. "The conclusion of the police is not one that does not suit me, my objection is that it is too fast, there are too many inconsistencies in relation to the place where they found Thomas, to be able to conclude so quickly to an accidental death. It's not possible," Francis Rauschkolb explains.
The young man had spent the evening of 27 December in the nightclub Le Studio 54, an establishment frequented by Nordahl Lelandais, as proven by a photo taken in 2012. The testimony of the ex-girlfriend of the alleged killer of little Maëlys and Corporal Arthur Noyer also accuses him. An autopsy ordered on the body of the victim, which will be exhumed, may lift the veil on the possible involvement of Nordahl Lelandais. He confessed to two murders after being confronted with indisputable evidence.
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After little Maëlys and Corporal Arthur Noyer, could Thomas Rauschkolb from Savoie be another victim of Nordahl Lelandais? To find out, a judge in Chambéry has ordered the exhumation of the 18-year-old, who died in 2015, in order to conduct an autopsy.
On 28 December 2015, the body of Thomas Rauschkolb, 18, was found on the banks of a river near Chambéry, in Savoie. Did he cross paths with Nordahl Lelandais? His father is convinced, and has never believed in the theory of the accident, favored by the gendarmes. "The conclusion of the police is not one that does not suit me, my objection is that it is too fast, there are too many inconsistencies in relation to the place where they found Thomas, to be able to conclude so quickly to an accidental death. It's not possible," Francis Rauschkolb explains.
The young man had spent the evening of 27 December in the nightclub Le Studio 54, an establishment frequented by Nordahl Lelandais, as proven by a photo taken in 2012. The testimony of the ex-girlfriend of the alleged killer of little Maëlys and Corporal Arthur Noyer also accuses him. An autopsy ordered on the body of the victim, which will be exhumed, may lift the veil on the possible involvement of Nordahl Lelandais. He confessed to two murders after being confronted with indisputable evidence.
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Disparition de Lucas Tronche dans le Gard : six ans après, où en est l’enquête ?
Lucas Tronche, missing for six years now
The investigators of the Criminal Investigation Department continue to work, from Paris and Montpellier, to find the 16-year-old teenager who has not given any sign of life since 18 March 2015.
"When we are looking for someone who has disappeared, and even more so when it is a minor, we never stop. This is a case that still occupies a lot of our time." Six years after the still unexplained disappearance of Lucas Tronche, 16, in Bagnols-sur-Cèze, the investigators are still struggling. Against the passage of time, against discouragement and against the lack of results.
On 18 March 2015, at around 5.15 pm, the teenager made his elder brother go alone towards the bus stop that was to take them both to the swimming pool. "Go ahead, I'll lock up the house," he says to Valentin. The latter calls him at 5.30 p.m.: Lucas' phone has already been switched off.
The teenager took his backpack and his phone, but left his towel and swimming costume, his bus pass and his €120 in savings in his room: on 18 March, Lucas had decided not to go to the swimming pool and to go and do something else.
But what? Where? Why? For six years, the family and friends of Lucas, the police officers of the Montpellier PJ and those of the Central Office for the Repression of Violence against Persons have been trying to understand. The investigation is colossal. Searches in the field. Interviews with witnesses. Analyses of video surveillance images and hundreds of thousands of telephone connections. Dozens of sex offenders listed in the region have been questioned.
No results. Over the years, the police have achieved some feats: a witness found three years later, via a sketch, a scammer unmasked who wrote reassuring letters to the Tronche family for no reason, a school official arrested for his reprehensible behaviour with certain pupils.
But in the end, the mystery remains, and all the hypotheses are open. "We see that he was partly in favour of leaving," said an investigator. But was it for two hours, for two days? And then, just because someone disappears voluntarily doesn't mean that something dramatic doesn't happen afterwards.
Suicide? Accident? A bad encounter? "Every time we have a doubt about predators arrested in France, we check whether they have been in the region. This was the case for Nordahl Lelandais: the investigation established that he had remained in Isère on 18 March 2015.
"We still have lists of checks to make, and we receive letters very regularly from people who think they have seen him. Until we find him, we won't stop looking for him."
Interview with Nathalie Tronche, Lucas' mother: "Still the great mystery"
How do you live this sixth sad anniversary?
It's always a difficult time, when you get to March and everything comes back to life. You realise that in six years, a lot has been done and that there are still many leads.
The police don't give up, even if there are other cases that take up their time. Last year, the lockdown prevented investigations. But they recently met the examining magistrate in Nîmes, and we know that there are investigations to come.
No demonstration is being organised this year, why?
Last year, we decided to withdraw, because the rallies were becoming too much for us. It's true that we're running out of steam in terms of mobilisation.
We also want to have a normal life, with our two other children, not to focus on these public demonstrations. And then we feel guilty. We also still have this fear, this fear that the case is closed. But the police tell us that the case will never be closed.
I trust them, but unfortunately there is nothing new. It's still a big mystery.
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Lucas Tronche, missing for six years now
The investigators of the Criminal Investigation Department continue to work, from Paris and Montpellier, to find the 16-year-old teenager who has not given any sign of life since 18 March 2015.
"When we are looking for someone who has disappeared, and even more so when it is a minor, we never stop. This is a case that still occupies a lot of our time." Six years after the still unexplained disappearance of Lucas Tronche, 16, in Bagnols-sur-Cèze, the investigators are still struggling. Against the passage of time, against discouragement and against the lack of results.
On 18 March 2015, at around 5.15 pm, the teenager made his elder brother go alone towards the bus stop that was to take them both to the swimming pool. "Go ahead, I'll lock up the house," he says to Valentin. The latter calls him at 5.30 p.m.: Lucas' phone has already been switched off.
The teenager took his backpack and his phone, but left his towel and swimming costume, his bus pass and his €120 in savings in his room: on 18 March, Lucas had decided not to go to the swimming pool and to go and do something else.
But what? Where? Why? For six years, the family and friends of Lucas, the police officers of the Montpellier PJ and those of the Central Office for the Repression of Violence against Persons have been trying to understand. The investigation is colossal. Searches in the field. Interviews with witnesses. Analyses of video surveillance images and hundreds of thousands of telephone connections. Dozens of sex offenders listed in the region have been questioned.
No results. Over the years, the police have achieved some feats: a witness found three years later, via a sketch, a scammer unmasked who wrote reassuring letters to the Tronche family for no reason, a school official arrested for his reprehensible behaviour with certain pupils.
But in the end, the mystery remains, and all the hypotheses are open. "We see that he was partly in favour of leaving," said an investigator. But was it for two hours, for two days? And then, just because someone disappears voluntarily doesn't mean that something dramatic doesn't happen afterwards.
Suicide? Accident? A bad encounter? "Every time we have a doubt about predators arrested in France, we check whether they have been in the region. This was the case for Nordahl Lelandais: the investigation established that he had remained in Isère on 18 March 2015.
"We still have lists of checks to make, and we receive letters very regularly from people who think they have seen him. Until we find him, we won't stop looking for him."
Interview with Nathalie Tronche, Lucas' mother: "Still the great mystery"
How do you live this sixth sad anniversary?
It's always a difficult time, when you get to March and everything comes back to life. You realise that in six years, a lot has been done and that there are still many leads.
The police don't give up, even if there are other cases that take up their time. Last year, the lockdown prevented investigations. But they recently met the examining magistrate in Nîmes, and we know that there are investigations to come.
No demonstration is being organised this year, why?
Last year, we decided to withdraw, because the rallies were becoming too much for us. It's true that we're running out of steam in terms of mobilisation.
We also want to have a normal life, with our two other children, not to focus on these public demonstrations. And then we feel guilty. We also still have this fear, this fear that the case is closed. But the police tell us that the case will never be closed.
I trust them, but unfortunately there is nothing new. It's still a big mystery.
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Nordahl Lelandais : des expertises accablantes sur les penchants pédophiles du meurtrier présumé de Maëlys
Nordahl Lelandais: overwhelming expert evidence on the paedophilic inclinations of the alleged murderer of Maëlys
Nordahl Lelandais will be sent to trial for the murder of little Maëlys, committed in 2017 in Isère. But the 38-year-old will not be prosecuted for rape, despite a psychiatric report that points to his paedophile tendencies. The former dog handler is described as "a sex addict" who used to browse child *advertiser censored* sites.
On March 18, after several months of investigation, the prosecutor's office of Grenoble requested the referral of Nordahl Lelandais before the court of assizes for the murder of the little Maëlys in 2017, in the Isère. The 38-year-old is also accused of "kidnapping and confinement of a minor under 15 years", "sexual assault" on two of his very young cousins and "recording child *advertiser censored*."
But he will not be prosecuted for the rape of the girl, as the prosecution failed to convince the investigating judge in charge of the case. However, a psychiatric assessment carried out by two specialists during the investigation and revealed by Le Parisien on Tuesday 30 March paints a picture of a violent killer with paedophile tendencies.
According to Professors Bensussan and Rouillon, "Nordahl Lelandais suffers from antisocial personality traits and (...) a sexual impulse control disorder". The experts favour "a diagnosis of paedophilia" and point to the "dangerous state in the psychiatric sense" of the 30-year-old.
The investigators discovered child *advertiser censored* files in the suspect's phone and testimonies from relatives confirm Nordahl Lelandais' attraction to young girls. In addition, the gendarmes wonder whether the former dog handler could have acted out of sexual frustration, having failed to obtain a relationship with other women. As was the case shortly before the murder of Corporal Arthur Noyer.
The ten experts who examined his case all came to the same conclusion: the man is " a sex addict (...) in addictive search of new experiences, mostly heterosexual, but also homosexual, also of domination-submission and doubtlessly paedophile. "
The family of Maëlys believes that the girl was sexually assaulted, which could explain the motive for the crime. "There are objective factors that lead us to fear that Maëlys was subjected to this abuse," according to Fabien Rajon, lawyer for the parents. The prosecutor's office also supports this view in its indictment, Le Parisien reports, citing "the context of sexual attraction for little girls, the diagnosis of paedophilia made by psychiatric experts, the repeated consultation of child *advertiser censored* sites, and his sexual acts on his young cousins shortly before the wedding."
But in front of the judge, Nordahl Lelandais has always denied everything, declaring: "I do not have an attraction for little girls, but I have had moments of attraction. It's not something that obsesses me." It is impossible to prove that Maëlys was sexually assaulted, as the thirty-year-old took too long to reveal the location of her body. He also disposed of photos, a video and one of his phones shortly after the wedding in Isère. Finally, a fellow inmate of the Saint-Quentin-Fallavier prison made chilling confidences to judges in 2019. Nordhal Lelandais would have revealed to him the details of his attempted rape of Maëlys before murdering her.
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Nordahl Lelandais: overwhelming expert evidence on the paedophilic inclinations of the alleged murderer of Maëlys
Nordahl Lelandais will be sent to trial for the murder of little Maëlys, committed in 2017 in Isère. But the 38-year-old will not be prosecuted for rape, despite a psychiatric report that points to his paedophile tendencies. The former dog handler is described as "a sex addict" who used to browse child *advertiser censored* sites.
On March 18, after several months of investigation, the prosecutor's office of Grenoble requested the referral of Nordahl Lelandais before the court of assizes for the murder of the little Maëlys in 2017, in the Isère. The 38-year-old is also accused of "kidnapping and confinement of a minor under 15 years", "sexual assault" on two of his very young cousins and "recording child *advertiser censored*."
But he will not be prosecuted for the rape of the girl, as the prosecution failed to convince the investigating judge in charge of the case. However, a psychiatric assessment carried out by two specialists during the investigation and revealed by Le Parisien on Tuesday 30 March paints a picture of a violent killer with paedophile tendencies.
According to Professors Bensussan and Rouillon, "Nordahl Lelandais suffers from antisocial personality traits and (...) a sexual impulse control disorder". The experts favour "a diagnosis of paedophilia" and point to the "dangerous state in the psychiatric sense" of the 30-year-old.
The investigators discovered child *advertiser censored* files in the suspect's phone and testimonies from relatives confirm Nordahl Lelandais' attraction to young girls. In addition, the gendarmes wonder whether the former dog handler could have acted out of sexual frustration, having failed to obtain a relationship with other women. As was the case shortly before the murder of Corporal Arthur Noyer.
The ten experts who examined his case all came to the same conclusion: the man is " a sex addict (...) in addictive search of new experiences, mostly heterosexual, but also homosexual, also of domination-submission and doubtlessly paedophile. "
The family of Maëlys believes that the girl was sexually assaulted, which could explain the motive for the crime. "There are objective factors that lead us to fear that Maëlys was subjected to this abuse," according to Fabien Rajon, lawyer for the parents. The prosecutor's office also supports this view in its indictment, Le Parisien reports, citing "the context of sexual attraction for little girls, the diagnosis of paedophilia made by psychiatric experts, the repeated consultation of child *advertiser censored* sites, and his sexual acts on his young cousins shortly before the wedding."
But in front of the judge, Nordahl Lelandais has always denied everything, declaring: "I do not have an attraction for little girls, but I have had moments of attraction. It's not something that obsesses me." It is impossible to prove that Maëlys was sexually assaulted, as the thirty-year-old took too long to reveal the location of her body. He also disposed of photos, a video and one of his phones shortly after the wedding in Isère. Finally, a fellow inmate of the Saint-Quentin-Fallavier prison made chilling confidences to judges in 2019. Nordhal Lelandais would have revealed to him the details of his attempted rape of Maëlys before murdering her.
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Thanks for that info - but - no trial date yet?
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Not until 2022 some voices say.
There are also concerns about the Noyer trial, dus to the rising number of COVID infections.
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Oh I hope not! I have it starting May 3 thru May 12l