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Oh, I imagine they'll do the same with Rafferty, then? I wonder what he'll say?
He'll probably be speechless!! IMO he thinks he's getting off.
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Oh, I imagine they'll do the same with Rafferty, then? I wonder what he'll say?
Agree BorgQueen and so do others, it seems. This below was tweeted earlier:
@AM980_Court When will the judge caution #Rafferty about his eye rolling, muttering & gestures?
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Those who believe he isn't guilty are also those who believe there is no evidence which makes me want to laugh and scream at the same time.
I'd be hiding as well.
His family doesn't concern me anyway. My concern lies with Tori's family.
Too late now. The Judge should have done it yesterday with his first eye rolling but that's ok. I hope the jury sees his obnoxious disregard for the court, Tori's family and last but not least, Tori, the victim.
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Nobody has to agree with the majority, but the people who believe he is guilty also don't have to agree with the ones who believe he is not. She was only stating her opinion, which she has a right to do, as well.
The weight of the evidence points to this crime fulfilling his sexual fantasy. JMO
Thank you everyone for your insights, thoughts and opinions for the last several years. Even if we don't always agree, Each one of you have kept Tori in your hearts and that is worth a 1000 words. Tori is what matters! We want Tori's little face to change us for the better and her memory to effect us forever.
It has been a emotional train ride, that is thankfully coming to a end. Both the crown and defence did their jobs and a good job presenting
Without knowing every bit of information the jury has ( I do not believe we have heard all the evidence via tweets) and solely going on the tweets we have heard, I do believe there is reasonable doubt, I do not think there was enough evidence to directly link MR to certain things. I do without a doubt though believe he should be accountable for actions that have been proven
I want justice for Tori just as much as anyone else period. I believe in our justice system and feel that MR got his fair trial and his peers will see as a whole if MR is guilty or not and I will 100% support and respect their decisions and be comfortable in believing they came up with the right verdict even if it disagrees with my opinion based on what i heard via the tweets
Agree BorgQueen and so do others, it seems. This below was tweeted earlier:
@AM980_Court When will the judge caution #Rafferty about his eye rolling, muttering & gestures?
I know me too, well mostly lol. I really don't know what they would do, maybe depends if the judge wants to get up out of bed too? jk. Maybe Justice Heeney will address that tomorrow too.
Is anyone at the courthouse with them if they deliberate into the night? I'm sure there has to be someone to let the pizza delivery guy in?
AM980_Court Another large eye roll for Rafferty when Gowdey brings up him manipulating women.
Look at what he reacts too...IMO!..****
links please .... I can't find the fantasy evidence links MOO
Thank you everyone for your insights, thoughts and opinions for the last several years. Even if we don't always agree, Each one of you have kept Tori in your hearts and that is worth a 1000 words. Tori is what matters! We want Tori's little face to change us for the better and her memory to effect us forever.
It has been a emotional train ride, that is thankfully coming to a end. Both the crown and defence did their jobs and a good job presenting
Without knowing every bit of information the jury has ( I do not believe we have heard all the evidence via tweets) and solely going on the tweets we have heard, I do believe there is reasonable doubt, I do not think there was enough evidence to directly link MR to certain things. I do without a doubt though believe he should be accountable for actions that have been proven
I want justice for Tori just as much as anyone else period. I believe in our justice system and feel that MR got his fair trial and his peers will see as a whole if MR is guilty or not and I will 100% support and respect their decisions and be comfortable in believing they came up with the right verdict even if it disagrees with my opinion based on what i heard via the tweets
My concern also lies with Tori's family!! I think I am just getting a little anxious about the verdict. I know how I feel, I really believe MTR is guilty, but I know some people feel he is innocent. I was just trying to get a sense of whether or not his own family supports him, besides his Mother that is. I think I was hoping to hear that they don't support him. If his own brothers didn't think he was innocent, how could a jury?! I will try to relax and hope justice will be served. Sweet Victoria and her family have never left my thoughts since I first heard she was missing :-(.
Thank you everyone for your insights, thoughts and opinions for the last several years. Even if we don't always agree, Each one of you have kept Tori in your hearts and that is worth a 1000 words. Tori is what matters! We want Tori's little face to change us for the better and her memory to effect us forever.
It has been a emotional train ride, that is thankfully coming to a end. Both the crown and defence did their jobs and a good job presenting
Without knowing every bit of information the jury has ( I do not believe we have heard all the evidence via tweets) and solely going on the tweets we have heard, I do believe there is reasonable doubt, I do not think there was enough evidence to directly link MR to certain things. I do without a doubt though believe he should be accountable for actions that have been proven
I did insert my "JMO." But since you asked, the evidence that points to this being a sexual fantasy of MR's:
-no other theory with any proof (i.e. "drug debt"--no proof; "innocent dupe"--no proof)
-Tori's blood found in MR's car, mixed with MR's blood, on the gym bag. It was on the bottom of the gym bag, IIRC. If it was splatter from TLM wielding the hammer, how did it get on the bottom???
-Tori's blood found in the same spot as a sperm faction--now I know there are those who say maybe they got there at different times, but how likely is that, really? I don't think it's very likely. Especially considering it was such a tiny spot, and in such an out-of-the-way place in the car.
-MR's crazy sex drive--I mean, wow. Reminds me of Warren Jeffs.
-MR's lies to police
-MR covering up the murder, and, IMO, other things (such as the sexual assault)
-that MR was there at all--why WAS he there, if not to do what he did?
-the statistical likelihood of these kinds of crimes being sexual offences
-him driving by the school three times that day
I'm sure there's more, but that's all I can think of on the fly. Anyone, feel free to add to the list.
JMO
Just wanted to point out that the blood on the gym bag had both of their DNA. I believe the crown pointed out that the DNA could have come from blood or semen. There is no way to tell how his and Tori's DNA was mixed on that bag. Obviously one person's DNA is the blood but the other's may not necessarily be.
MOO
I did insert my "JMO." But since you asked, the evidence that points to this being a sexual fantasy of MR's:
-no other theory with any proof (i.e. "drug debt"--no proof; "innocent dupe"--no proof)
-Tori's blood found in MR's car, mixed with MR's blood, on the gym bag. It was on the bottom of the gym bag, IIRC. If it was splatter from TLM wielding the hammer, how did it get on the bottom???
-Tori's blood found in the same spot as a sperm faction--now I know there are those who say maybe they got there at different times, but how likely is that, really? I don't think it's very likely. Especially considering it was such a tiny spot, and in such an out-of-the-way place in the car.
-MR's crazy sex drive--I mean, wow. Reminds me of Warren Jeffs.
-MR's lies to police
-MR covering up the murder, and, IMO, other things (such as the sexual assault)
-that MR was there at all--why WAS he there, if not to do what he did?
-the statistical likelihood of these kinds of crimes being sexual offences
-him driving by the school three times that day
I'm sure there's more, but that's all I can think of on the fly. Anyone, feel free to add to the list.
JMO
RaffertyLFP: Gowdey says Rafferty was the mastermind all the way in the kidnap and murder of Tori details each part of trip
Gowdey thanks jurors for patience. Asks them to recall Tara McDonald panicking.
RaffertyLFP: Gowdey wraps up He returns to Tara MacDonald's panic on day of abduction
Evidence establishes what happened to Tori, and that Rafferty did it.
I'm feeling especially haunted by this case. More than any other. Ever. Sigh....