Ireland Ireland - Roanaid Murray, 17, murdered, Glenageary, 4 Sept 1999

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Today is the 20th anniversary of the murder of Raonaid Murray. I didn't know her myself, but i hung out in the same area as her, and a lot of people i know were friends of hers. They are still devastated about her death and talk about her to this day. What are peoples thoughts/theory's about this case?

'Come out from the shadows' - Raonaid Murray family addresses killer 20 years after murder
I'm from Glenageary myself, many moons ago. Arnold Grove originally. I remember walking down to the newsagent off Bellvue road to buy a packet of smokes, and the dude behind the counter said: "Terrible what happened last night." I asked, what happened? He went on to tell me about the stabbing. I was stunned. We had been literally a few doors down from the scene working in a house the day of the killing that happened that night . I went to the cops and told them, gave them my car reg in case somebody reported an unknown vehicle and they needed to cross it off their list. They weren't a bit interested. I think they botched that inquiry. They said there was no DNA. C'mon, there must have been something. I think it was a woman who did that. <modsnip - no link to approved source to statement of fact>. Raonaid's father was the Irish teacher to a few of my mates in Pres Glasthule. I was born and lived in Glenageary for 29 years and was absolutly horrified that something so terrible could have happened in my district. I've taken that laneway as a short cut home on thousands of occasions coming back from the boozer in Dun Laoghaire.
 
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Her friends might still talk about her, but I would be shocked if her killer did not come from her immediate circle. If they actually cared they would clear their conscience.

We've seen nothing similar in the years since. Which leads me to believe that this isn't a randomer running around who was opportunistic. But I could be wrong.

There is an interesting documentary on the case on YouTube called Rainy in Glenageary.

RIP to the young lady, both she and her family deserve better.
 
Cold case in capital continues despite investigation lasting 22 years
Conor Trindle
5th September 2021
''Many who were Raonaid's age at the time of her murder are now parents themselves with children, some of which would now be close to Raonaid's age, and gardai is asking them to reflect now with the benefit of maturity and hindsight on any information which may be of assistance to the investigation.''

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''Despite a large number of suspects having been identified during the course of the investigation, gardai say that in reality there is no prime suspect. The lack of a prime suspect arises mainly from the fact that no motive has been established. In over 3,400 witness statements there is not a single word of enmity towards Raonaid, gardai say.

If any person has any information which could assist in identifying a motive for the murder of Raonaid and/or if any person has any doubts about the veracity of an alibi already provided, gardai would ask for your immediate assistance. You may be unknowingly shielding a killer, gardia say.''
 
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Ali Bracken 3 Sep 2022

'Raonaid Murray: ‘It may have been a woman who killed her’​

Detectives are convinced answer to the murder lies within the teenager's social circle'
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'Raonaid Murray was likely caught off guard when her attacker punched her in the face, chipping one of her front teeth.'

2000 > January > 14 > The Mirror (London, England)
rbbm
''A STRAND of hair taken from the body of murdered teenager Raonaid Murray could prove to be vital in trapping her killer.

Gardai have sent it for DNA testing in England along with samples from possible suspects.

The hair was found on Raonaid's body during forensic tests after she was stabbed to death last September but is definitely not hers.

One investigator said: "If it matches one of our suspects we could be able to solve this very quickly.''

"At the same time, it could have been anyone's. We'll just have to wait for the results."
 
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Today is the 20th anniversary of the murder of Raonaid Murray. I didn't know her myself, but i hung out in the same area as her, and a lot of people i know were friends of hers. They are still devastated about her death and talk about her to this day. What are peoples thoughts/theory's about this case?

'Come out from the shadows' - Raonaid Murray family addresses killer 20 years after murder
Well, I’ve read everything about this case and I mean everything. There’s a memorial plaque at the exit of The Cut, in 2023 there wasn’t an appeal from her family, and in the surrounding area or online, there’s no trace of her friends having ever remembered her. No memorial, no graffiti, nothing of note. There is no website (I know the family took their one down) for people to leave tips, <modsnip>
 
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I'm from Glenageary myself, many moons ago. Arnold Grove originally. I remember walking down to the newsagent off Bellvue road to buy a packet of smokes, and the dude behind the counter said: "Terrible what happened last night." I asked, what happened? He went on to tell me about the stabbing. I was stunned. We had been literally a few doors down from the scene working in a house the day of the killing that happened that night . I went to the cops and told them, gave them my car reg in case somebody reported an unknown vehicle and they needed to cross it off their list. They weren't a bit interested. I think they botched that inquiry. They said there was no DNA. C'mon, there must have been something. I think it was a woman who did that. There was some chick who was much older than Raonaid who had an infatuation with her - who then scarpered to the States straight after the murder; never followed up. Raonaid's father was the Irish teacher to a few of my mates in Pres Glasthule. I was born and lived in Glenageary for 29 years and was absolutly horrified that something so terrible could have happened in my district. I've taken that laneway as a short cut home on thousands of occasions coming back from the boozer in Dun Laoghaire.
So, could you elaborate on cops “not being interested” …
 
Well, I’ve read everything about this case and I mean everything. There’s a memorial plaque at the exit of The Cut, in 2023 there wasn’t an appeal from her family, and in the surrounding area or online, there’s no trace of her friends having ever remembered her. No memorial, no graffiti, nothing of note. There is no website (I know the family took their one down) for people to leave tips, there is zero evidence her friends have made an effort to keep her memory alive in the hope a prosecution will emerge. What they do in private - chatting - fine but it’s not good enough. We are creating a website and planning for this 25 anniversary. I’m sorry to conclude but her “friends” have been very anonymous. As for who killed her - x female and Y male - blood union. Female is mid 50s - male is in his mid 40s. As far as I know x female isn’t abroad now but home- male Y is living in Wicklow.
Welcome to Ws @James Carter!
Sep 5, 2014
Sunday World crime editor Nicola Tallant investigates the brutal murder of 17-year-old Raonaid Murray, which took place fifteen years ago in Glenageary, south Dublin.
 
Welcome to Ws @James Carter!
Sep 5, 2014
Sunday World crime editor Nicola Tallant investigates the brutal murder of 17-year-old Raonaid Murray, which took place fifteen years ago in Glenageary, south Dublin.
Thank you. I’ve seen all the material - written - and online on this case. Nicola Tallant went to the same school as Raonaid & poor Elaine, victim of Graham Dwyer, went there also.
 
Thank you. I’ve seen all the material - written - and online on this case. Nicola Tallant went to the same school as Raonaid & poor Elaine, victim of Graham Dwyer, went there also.
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2023
''The Star previously exclusively revealed a snap of sex beast Dwyer smiling over glasses of wine as he enjoys his 40th birthday - just days after he murdered innocent Elaine.

The Foxrock architect was pictured wearing a white t-shirt and a novelty birthday badge - just days after he lured Ms O’ Hara to her death''
 
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Today is the 20th anniversary of the murder of Raonaid Murray. I didn't know her myself, but i hung out in the same area as her, and a lot of people i know were friends of hers. They are still devastated about her death and talk about her to this day. What are peoples thoughts/theory's about this case?

'Come out from the shadows' - Raonaid Murray family addresses killer 20 years after murder

Her friends might still talk about her, but I would be shocked if her killer did not come from her immediate circle. If they actually cared they would clear their conscience.

We've seen nothing similar in the years since. Which leads me to believe that this isn't a randomer running around who was opportunistic. But I could be wrong.

There is an interesting documentary on the case on YouTube called Rainy in Glenageary.

RIP to the young lady, both she and her family deserve better.

<modsnip - off topic >

2023
''The Star previously exclusively revealed a snap of sex beast Dwyer smiling over glasses of wine as he enjoys his 40th birthday - just days after he murdered innocent Elaine.

The Foxrock architect was pictured wearing a white t-shirt and a novelty birthday badge - just days after he lured Ms O’ Hara to her death''
Yeah he was cleared quickly enough over any involvement in Raonaids murder. DNA analysis, apparently. A very very strange person. One case where the guards were hellbent on getting a positive result. Good police work, really. RIP Elaine.
 
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Jim Cusack 23 Jul 2016 rbbm lengthy.
''Saturday, September 4, 1999 was a warm late-summer day. The evening before had been misty, still and humid. It was one of the last warm Friday nights of the summer and people had been socialising and dining in their back gardens in Glenageary.

A group of friends still sitting outside just before midnight in their back garden in Silchester Road heard a girl shouting something like "Leave me alone!" "Go away!"and, they agreed, " off" around midnight. Then the sounds stopped and they paid no further attention.''

''The man in charge of the IRA's 'England' division, responsible for bombings and other attacks in Britain, lived quietly in a large semi-detached house not far from where Raonaid was murdered.''
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Farah Swaleh Noor
''Raonaid was stabbed multiple times, with death caused by one of four wounds that deeply penetrated her shoulder, severing an artery.

She survived only long enough to crawl about 200 feet out of the laneway where she had been attacked and into Silchester Crescent, just around the corner from where she lived. Some of the estimated 31 stab wounds barely penetrated her light clothing.''

''Her assailant could have been male or female. That, sources confirmed last week, remains the case. There was at least one female suspect, a young woman who had family links to the IRA. She was known for her aggressive and violent behaviour.

''In all, 210 men and women were earmarked as potential suspects, 'persons of interest'.

One of these was Farah Swaleh Noor, the violent, drink- and drug-addicted Somali immigrant who was killed and then dismembered by 'Scissor sisters' Linda and Charlotte Mulhall in March 2005.''
 
Jim Cusack 23 Jul 2016 rbbm lengthy.
''Saturday, September 4, 1999 was a warm late-summer day. The evening before had been misty, still and humid. It was one of the last warm Friday nights of the summer and people had been socialising and dining in their back gardens in Glenageary.

A group of friends still sitting outside just before midnight in their back garden in Silchester Road heard a girl shouting something like "Leave me alone!" "Go away!"and, they agreed, " off" around midnight. Then the sounds stopped and they paid no further attention.''

''The man in charge of the IRA's 'England' division, responsible for bombings and other attacks in Britain, lived quietly in a large semi-detached house not far from where Raonaid was murdered.''
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Farah Swaleh Noor
''Raonaid was stabbed multiple times, with death caused by one of four wounds that deeply penetrated her shoulder, severing an artery.

She survived only long enough to crawl about 200 feet out of the laneway where she had been attacked and into Silchester Crescent, just around the corner from where she lived. Some of the estimated 31 stab wounds barely penetrated her light clothing.''

''Her assailant could have been male or female. That, sources confirmed last week, remains the case. There was at least one female suspect, a young woman who had family links to the IRA. She was known for her aggressive and violent behaviour.

''In all, 210 men and women were earmarked as potential suspects, 'persons of interest'.

One of these was Farah Swaleh Noor, the violent, drink- and drug-addicted Somali immigrant who was killed and then dismembered by 'Scissor sisters' Linda and Charlotte Mulhall in March 2005.''
It wasn’t Noor & for so many reasons it’s not even worth listing them.

The ref to head of “England Department” - yeah, there is a link to a female suspect but Jim was wrong that day, he wasn’t the top man of the England Department.

The names of key players are in Rory Carroll’s book “Killing Thatcher”, if one was interested. I can find no trace of the individual connected to suspect in the book or other publications. Not that I’ve delved that deep but that Provo unit was still active well after 1999 and sourcing intelligence in the UK.<modsnip>
 
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It wasn’t Noor & for so many reasons it’s not even worth listing them.

The ref to head of “England Department” - yeah, there is a link to a female suspect but Jim was wrong that day, he wasn’t the top man of the England Department.

The names of key players are in Rory Carroll’s book “Killing Thatcher”, if one was interested. I can find no trace of the individual connected to suspect in the book or other publications. Not that I’ve delved that deep but that Provo unit was still active well after 1999 and sourcing intelligence in the UK. <modsnip>
Interesting!
 
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