GUILTY Canada - Ibrahim Ali, accused of killing girl, 13, Burnaby, BC, 18 July 2017

Even though I am one day late - will post - that way I can shorten it up a bit.

Monday, January 22nd:
*Case Management Hearing (@ 2pm PT) – British Columbia, Canada – M. S. (13) (last seen alive on July 18, 2017 at a local Tim Hortons, Burney B.C. & her body was found 5 hours later on July 19, 2017 in Burnaby’s Central Park, Vancouver) - *Ibrahim Ali (28/now 33) arrested & charged (9/7/18) & indicted (11/25/19) with 1st degree murder. Plead not guilty. Held without bail.
Police used a new & somewhat controversial “DNA dragnet” technique, after collecting DNA at the crime scene that indicated a suspect of Middle Eastern descent. (He is a Syrian refugee who entered Canada 3 months before murder).
Trial began on 3/17/23 with jury selection & ended on 3/23/23.
Trial began on 4/5/23 & continued on 4/11/23. Crown rested their case on 11/17/23. Defense began on 11/20/23 & rested their case.
B.C. Supreme Court Justice Lance Bernard presiding. Crown prosecutor Isobel Keeley & Daniel Porte & defense attorney Ben Lynskey & Kevin McCullough.
Jury deliberations Day 1 (12/7/23): probably ~1 hour. Day 2 (12/8/23): a few hours (~3 hours. Total deliberations: ~4 hours.
Verdict: Guilty of 1st degree murder.

Case & court info from 1/29/19 thru Trial Days 1-102 (4/28 thru 12/7/23) & Verdict Watch Day 1 (12/7/23) reference post #281 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...irl-13-burnaby-bc-18-july-2017.673539/page-15

12/8/23 Friday, Trial Day 103/Verdict Watch Day 2: The jury came back with its decision minutes after asking the judge to clarify the differences between first- and second-degree murder & manslaughter. Justice Lance Bernard told them murder would mean Ali deliberately caused the girl's death or meant to cause her bodily harm & knew that this was likely to cause death. Bernard said it would qualify as first-degree murder if it happened while Ali committed or attempted to commit a sexual assault against the girl, whose name is protected by a publication ban. A British Columbia Supreme Court jury has found Ibrahim Ali guilty of first-degree murder for the death of a 13-year-old girl. Sentencing hearing on 12/12/23.
1/15/24 Update: Undercover police investigating the murder of a 13-year-old girl in British Columbia disguised themselves as tea marketers to secretly collect the DNA of about 150 Kurdish community members, court recordings reveal. Ali's lawyers filed a notice of appeal on Dec. 11, 2022 which claimed the court "erred in its consideration of the defense abuse-of-process application in respect to the police collection of, and investigation into, the appellant's DNA." "We will also be challenging the effect of the use of this technology on the police investigation & whether it led to them exploiting the vulnerability of the Kurdish population to advance the investigation." Justice Lance Bernard ruled against the abuse-of-process application in December 2022.
1/15/24 Update: Case management hearing. Ali was in court Monday to fix a date for sentencing, although other applications were heard in the morning. He attended the B.C. Supreme Court hearing by video. Next another case management hearing on 1/22/24.
 
This case feels cursed.


The father of a murdered 13-year-old girl has been under police investigation for allegedly bringing a gun into a Vancouver courtroom on the day that Ibrahim Ali was convicted of the killing, the man’s lawyer has told a hearing.

Lawyers for Ali are refusing to show up to court for post-trial proceedings, citing safety concerns about the man, who can’t be named because of a publication ban on the identity of the murdered girl.
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Ali, who appeared by video Wednesday...is yet to be sentenced but faces a mandatory life term with no chance of parole for 25 years.
 

...judge has ruled that Ibrahim Ali should be removed from the forensic psychiatric hospital where he has been held throughout his first-degree murder trial...[and] returned to the North Fraser pretrial detention centre where he was held before his trial.

...Ali will remain at the centre until his sentencing...

Ali appeared by video from the hospital on Friday with a different haircut...and he seemed in good spirits, smiling and laughing occasionally.

...Ali’s psychiatrist believes the man no longer needs to be detained at the hospital as he has “improved dramatically,” and there is no evidence that he is suffering from an underlying psychotic illness.
 
Since he appeared in court yesterday - I shall go ahead & post this - just to keep my notes updated!

Friday, January 26th:
*Case Management Hearing (@ am PT) – British Columbia, Canada – M. S. (13) (last seen alive on July 18, 2017 at a local Tim Hortons, Burney B.C. & her body was found 5 hours later on July 19, 2017 in Burnaby’s Central Park, Vancouver) - *Ibrahim Ali (28/now 33) arrested & charged (9/7/18) & indicted (11/25/19) with 1st degree murder. Plead not guilty. Held without bail.
Police used a new & somewhat controversial “DNA dragnet” technique, after collecting DNA at the crime scene that indicated a suspect of Middle Eastern descent. (He is a Syrian refugee who entered Canada 3 months before murder).
Trial began on 3/17/23 with jury selection & ended on 3/23/23.
Trial began on 4/5/23 & continued on 4/11/23. Crown rested their case on 11/17/23. Defense began on 11/20/23 & rested their case.
B.C. Supreme Court Justice Lance Bernard presiding. Crown prosecutor Isobel Keeley & Daniel Porte & defense attorney Ben Lynskey & Kevin McCullough.
Jury deliberations Day 1 (12/7/23): probably ~1 hour. Day 2 (12/8/23): a few hours (~3 hours. Total deliberations: ~4 hours.
Verdict: Guilty of 1st degree murder.

Case & court info from 1/29/19 thru Trial Days 1-103 (4/28 thru 12/8/23) & Verdict Watch Day 1 (12/7/23) & thru 1/15/24 reference post #303 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...irl-13-burnaby-bc-18-july-2017.673539/page-16

1/15/24 Update: Case management hearing. Ali was in court Monday to fix a date for sentencing, although other applications were heard in the morning. He attended the B.C. Supreme Court hearing by video. Next case management hearing on 1/22/24 @ 2pm.
1/26/24 Update: Justice Lance Bernard ruled that Ali, who was convicted last month of murdering a young teen girl, should be removed from the forensic psychiatric hospital where he has been held throughout his first-degree murder trial & will be returned to the North Fraser pretrial detention centre where he was held before his trial. Bernard says Ali will remain at the centre until his sentencing, which is an automatic life sentence with no chance of parole for 25 years. Ali appeared by video from the hospital on Friday, 1/26/24 with a different haircut, his hair shaved along the side of his head, and he seemed in good spirits, smiling & laughing occasionally.
 

Jan. 31, 2023

Ibrahim Ali, who was convicted of the first-degree murder of a 13-year-old girl in B.C., has applied to have the charges against him stayed, according to court documents.

In an unrelated decision in the case, posted online Monday, Associate Chief Justice Heather Holmes indicated that Ali has filed what is referred to as a "Jordan application." This kind of application argues that the right to be tried in a reasonable time, guaranteed under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, was violated.

If the application is successful, Ali will not be sentenced and will not face further prosecution.

According to the BC Prosecution Service, no date has been set for the court to consider this application.
 
Looks like they had a hearing on Friday -which was continued to Monday, 2/12.


Feb. 9, 2024
Vancouver -

The father of a murdered 13-year-old girl may continue listening in remotely to post-trial proceedings, a British Columbia Supreme Court judge ruled, rejecting an application by the convicted killer's lawyers who said they feared for their safety.

The girl was found dead in a Metro Vancouver park in 2017, and a jury found Ibrahim Ali guilty of her first-degree murder last December.

Ali's trial lawyers, Kevin McCullough and Ben Lynskey, have been refusing to attend post-trial hearings, citing safety concerns over an allegation the girl's father brought a loaded gun to the Vancouver courtroom on the day of the verdict.
[.....]
But Justice Lance Bernard denied their application on Friday.

The father hasn't been charged in the alleged gun incident, although Bernard said he is aware of “an outstanding police investigation” into the matter.

The judge said the man was arrested and released with orders not to attend court in person, not to contact Ali or his lawyers, and not to possess any firearms.

Those conditions - along with the move to a secure courtroom equipped with bulletproof glass - strike the right balance between safety and the father's interest in following the proceedings, Bernard said in his reasons for the ruling.
[.....]
Ali appeared by video on Friday. He has yet to be sentenced in the case, but he faces a mandatory life term with no chance of parole for 25 years.

The judge also tried to set a date to hear arguments over a so-called “Jordan application” by Ali's lawyers, seeking a stay of proceedings on the basis of unreasonable delays in the case. If granted, Ali would go free without sentencing.

Bernard said he had been “determined” to deal with the application in March.

But the court heard that a transcription company estimated it would take 12 to 14 weeks to provide documentation that defence and Crown lawyers said they need.
[.....]
The judge adjourned the proceedings until Monday [2/12/24], asking the lawyers to return with “some answers” in relation to the request for transcripts and the timeline.



had to look up Jordan Application - and got this:

What is a Jordan application?
The "Jordan" framework sets a presumptive acceptable period of delay between charge and conclusion of trial is 18 months for provincial court trials and 30 months for superior court trial. The period is calculated from the time of charging until the actual or anticipated end of trial, minus defence delays.
 
Hello all!
I will be going on vacation starting Sunday Feb. 11th - and will try & keep up with all the cases I am following! :)
I might post some ahead of time - since I have plans in Sweden - my sister's 75th birthday celebration!
So bare with me! :D
So - posting this one early.

Monday, February 12th:
*Case Management Hearing (@ am PT) – British Columbia, Canada – M. S. (13) (last seen alive on July 18, 2017 at a local Tim Hortons, Burney B.C. & her body was found 5 hours later on July 19, 2017 in Burnaby’s Central Park, Vancouver) - *Ibrahim Ali (27 @ time of crime/28/now 33) arrested & charged (9/7/18) & indicted (11/25/19) with 1st degree murder. Plead not guilty. Held without bail.
Police used a new & somewhat controversial “DNA dragnet” technique, after collecting DNA at the crime scene that indicated a suspect of Middle Eastern descent. (He is a Syrian refugee who entered Canada 3 months before murder).
Trial began on 3/17/23 with jury selection & ended on 3/23/23.
Trial began on 4/5/23 & continued on 4/11/23. Crown rested their case on 11/17/23. Defense began on 11/20/23 & rested their case.
B.C. Supreme Court Justice Lance Bernard presiding. Crown prosecutor Isobel Keeley & Daniel Porte & defense attorney Ben Lynskey & Kevin McCullough.
Jury deliberations Day 1 (12/7/23): probably ~1 hour. Day 2 (12/8/23): a few hours (~3 hours). Total deliberations: ~4 hours.
Verdict: Guilty of 1st degree murder.

Case & court info from 1/29/19 thru Trial Days 1-103 (4/28 thru 12/8/23) & Verdict Watch Day 1 (12/7/23) & thru 1/15/24 reference post #306 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...irl-13-burnaby-bc-18-july-2017.673539/page-16

1/26/24 Update: Justice Lance Bernard ruled that Ali, who was convicted last month of murdering a young teen girl, should be removed from the forensic psychiatric hospital where he has been held throughout his first-degree murder trial & will be returned to the North Fraser pretrial detention centre where he was held before his trial. Bernard says Ali will remain at the centre until his sentencing, which is an automatic life sentence with no chance of parole for 25 years. Ali appeared by video from the hospital on Friday, 1/26/24 with a different haircut, his hair shaved along the side of his head, and he seemed in good spirits, smiling & laughing occasionally.
1/30/24 Update: Ali has applied to have the charges against him stayed. In an unrelated decision in the case, posted online Monday, Associate Chief Justice Heather Holmes indicated that Ali has filed what is referred to as a "Jordan application." This kind of application argues that the right to be tried in a reasonable time, guaranteed under the Charter of Rights & Freedoms, was violated. If the application is successful, Ali will not be sentenced & will not face further prosecution. According to the BC Prosecution Service, no date has been set for the court to consider this application.
2/9/24 Update: Hearing held. B.C. Supreme Court Justice Lance Bernard ruled, rejecting an application by the convicted killer's lawyers who said they feared for their safety. Ali's trial lawyers, Kevin McCullough & Ben Lynskey, have been refusing to attend post-trial hearings, citing safety concerns over an allegation the girl's father brought a loaded gun to the Vancouver courtroom on the day of the verdict. But Justice Lance Bernard denied their application on Friday. The father hasn't been charged in the alleged gun incident, although Bernard said he is aware of “an outstanding police investigation” into the matter. The judge said the man was arrested & released with orders not to attend court in person, not to contact Ali or his lawyers, and not to possess any firearms. Those conditions - along with the move to a secure courtroom equipped with bulletproof glass - strike the right balance between safety & the father's interest in following the proceedings, Bernard said in his reasons for the ruling. Ali appeared by video on Friday. He has yet to be sentenced in the case, but he faces a mandatory life term with no chance of parole for 25 years. The judge also tried to set a date to hear arguments over a so-called “Jordan application” by Ali's lawyers, seeking a stay of proceedings on the basis of unreasonable delays in the case. If granted, Ali would go free without sentencing. Bernard said he had been “determined” to deal with the application in March. But the court heard that a transcription company estimated it would take 12 to 14 weeks to provide documentation that defence & Crown lawyers said they need. The judge adjourned the proceedings until Monday, 2/12/24, asking the lawyers to return with “some answers” in relation to the request for transcripts & the timeline. The "Jordan" framework sets a presumptive acceptable period of delay between charge & conclusion of trial is 18 months for provincial court trials & 30 months for superior court trial. The period is calculated from the time of charging until the actual or anticipated end of trial, minus defence delays.
 
Hello all!
I will be going on vacation starting Sunday Feb. 11th - and will try & keep up with all the cases I am following! :)
I might post some ahead of time - since I have plans in Sweden - my sister's 75th birthday celebration!
So bare with me! :D
So - posting this one early.

Monday, February 12th:
*Case Management Hearing (@ am PT) – British Columbia, Canada – M. S. (13) (last seen alive on July 18, 2017 at a local Tim Hortons, Burney B.C. & her body was found 5 hours later on July 19, 2017 in Burnaby’s Central Park, Vancouver) - *Ibrahim Ali (27 @ time of crime/28/now 33) arrested & charged (9/7/18) & indicted (11/25/19) with 1st degree murder. Plead not guilty. Held without bail.
Police used a new & somewhat controversial “DNA dragnet” technique, after collecting DNA at the crime scene that indicated a suspect of Middle Eastern descent. (He is a Syrian refugee who entered Canada 3 months before murder).
Trial began on 3/17/23 with jury selection & ended on 3/23/23.
Trial began on 4/5/23 & continued on 4/11/23. Crown rested their case on 11/17/23. Defense began on 11/20/23 & rested their case.
B.C. Supreme Court Justice Lance Bernard presiding. Crown prosecutor Isobel Keeley & Daniel Porte & defense attorney Ben Lynskey & Kevin McCullough.
Jury deliberations Day 1 (12/7/23): probably ~1 hour. Day 2 (12/8/23): a few hours (~3 hours). Total deliberations: ~4 hours.
Verdict: Guilty of 1st degree murder.

Case & court info from 1/29/19 thru Trial Days 1-103 (4/28 thru 12/8/23) & Verdict Watch Day 1 (12/7/23) & thru 1/15/24 reference post #306 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...irl-13-burnaby-bc-18-july-2017.673539/page-16

1/26/24 Update: Justice Lance Bernard ruled that Ali, who was convicted last month of murdering a young teen girl, should be removed from the forensic psychiatric hospital where he has been held throughout his first-degree murder trial & will be returned to the North Fraser pretrial detention centre where he was held before his trial. Bernard says Ali will remain at the centre until his sentencing, which is an automatic life sentence with no chance of parole for 25 years. Ali appeared by video from the hospital on Friday, 1/26/24 with a different haircut, his hair shaved along the side of his head, and he seemed in good spirits, smiling & laughing occasionally.
1/30/24 Update: Ali has applied to have the charges against him stayed. In an unrelated decision in the case, posted online Monday, Associate Chief Justice Heather Holmes indicated that Ali has filed what is referred to as a "Jordan application." This kind of application argues that the right to be tried in a reasonable time, guaranteed under the Charter of Rights & Freedoms, was violated. If the application is successful, Ali will not be sentenced & will not face further prosecution. According to the BC Prosecution Service, no date has been set for the court to consider this application.
2/9/24 Update: Hearing held. B.C. Supreme Court Justice Lance Bernard ruled, rejecting an application by the convicted killer's lawyers who said they feared for their safety. Ali's trial lawyers, Kevin McCullough & Ben Lynskey, have been refusing to attend post-trial hearings, citing safety concerns over an allegation the girl's father brought a loaded gun to the Vancouver courtroom on the day of the verdict. But Justice Lance Bernard denied their application on Friday. The father hasn't been charged in the alleged gun incident, although Bernard said he is aware of “an outstanding police investigation” into the matter. The judge said the man was arrested & released with orders not to attend court in person, not to contact Ali or his lawyers, and not to possess any firearms. Those conditions - along with the move to a secure courtroom equipped with bulletproof glass - strike the right balance between safety & the father's interest in following the proceedings, Bernard said in his reasons for the ruling. Ali appeared by video on Friday. He has yet to be sentenced in the case, but he faces a mandatory life term with no chance of parole for 25 years. The judge also tried to set a date to hear arguments over a so-called “Jordan application” by Ali's lawyers, seeking a stay of proceedings on the basis of unreasonable delays in the case. If granted, Ali would go free without sentencing. Bernard said he had been “determined” to deal with the application in March. But the court heard that a transcription company estimated it would take 12 to 14 weeks to provide documentation that defence & Crown lawyers said they need. The judge adjourned the proceedings until Monday, 2/12/24, asking the lawyers to return with “some answers” in relation to the request for transcripts & the timeline. The "Jordan" framework sets a presumptive acceptable period of delay between charge & conclusion of trial is 18 months for provincial court trials & 30 months for superior court trial. The period is calculated from the time of charging until the actual or anticipated end of trial, minus defence delays.
Thank you, have a wonderful time and a very Happy birthday to your sister!
 
Hello all!
I will be going on vacation starting Sunday Feb. 11th - and will try & keep up with all the cases I am following! :)
I might post some ahead of time - since I have plans in Sweden - my sister's 75th birthday celebration!
So bare with me! :D
So - posting this one early.

Monday, February 12th:
*Case Management Hearing (@ am PT) – British Columbia, Canada – M. S. (13) (last seen alive on July 18, 2017 at a local Tim Hortons, Burney B.C. & her body was found 5 hours later on July 19, 2017 in Burnaby’s Central Park, Vancouver) - *Ibrahim Ali (27 @ time of crime/28/now 33) arrested & charged (9/7/18) & indicted (11/25/19) with 1st degree murder. Plead not guilty. Held without bail.
Police used a new & somewhat controversial “DNA dragnet” technique, after collecting DNA at the crime scene that indicated a suspect of Middle Eastern descent. (He is a Syrian refugee who entered Canada 3 months before murder).
Trial began on 3/17/23 with jury selection & ended on 3/23/23.
Trial began on 4/5/23 & continued on 4/11/23. Crown rested their case on 11/17/23. Defense began on 11/20/23 & rested their case.
B.C. Supreme Court Justice Lance Bernard presiding. Crown prosecutor Isobel Keeley & Daniel Porte & defense attorney Ben Lynskey & Kevin McCullough.
Jury deliberations Day 1 (12/7/23): probably ~1 hour. Day 2 (12/8/23): a few hours (~3 hours). Total deliberations: ~4 hours.
Verdict: Guilty of 1st degree murder.

Case & court info from 1/29/19 thru Trial Days 1-103 (4/28 thru 12/8/23) & Verdict Watch Day 1 (12/7/23) & thru 1/15/24 reference post #306 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...irl-13-burnaby-bc-18-july-2017.673539/page-16

1/26/24 Update: Justice Lance Bernard ruled that Ali, who was convicted last month of murdering a young teen girl, should be removed from the forensic psychiatric hospital where he has been held throughout his first-degree murder trial & will be returned to the North Fraser pretrial detention centre where he was held before his trial. Bernard says Ali will remain at the centre until his sentencing, which is an automatic life sentence with no chance of parole for 25 years. Ali appeared by video from the hospital on Friday, 1/26/24 with a different haircut, his hair shaved along the side of his head, and he seemed in good spirits, smiling & laughing occasionally.
1/30/24 Update: Ali has applied to have the charges against him stayed. In an unrelated decision in the case, posted online Monday, Associate Chief Justice Heather Holmes indicated that Ali has filed what is referred to as a "Jordan application." This kind of application argues that the right to be tried in a reasonable time, guaranteed under the Charter of Rights & Freedoms, was violated. If the application is successful, Ali will not be sentenced & will not face further prosecution. According to the BC Prosecution Service, no date has been set for the court to consider this application.
2/9/24 Update: Hearing held. B.C. Supreme Court Justice Lance Bernard ruled, rejecting an application by the convicted killer's lawyers who said they feared for their safety. Ali's trial lawyers, Kevin McCullough & Ben Lynskey, have been refusing to attend post-trial hearings, citing safety concerns over an allegation the girl's father brought a loaded gun to the Vancouver courtroom on the day of the verdict. But Justice Lance Bernard denied their application on Friday. The father hasn't been charged in the alleged gun incident, although Bernard said he is aware of “an outstanding police investigation” into the matter. The judge said the man was arrested & released with orders not to attend court in person, not to contact Ali or his lawyers, and not to possess any firearms. Those conditions - along with the move to a secure courtroom equipped with bulletproof glass - strike the right balance between safety & the father's interest in following the proceedings, Bernard said in his reasons for the ruling. Ali appeared by video on Friday. He has yet to be sentenced in the case, but he faces a mandatory life term with no chance of parole for 25 years. The judge also tried to set a date to hear arguments over a so-called “Jordan application” by Ali's lawyers, seeking a stay of proceedings on the basis of unreasonable delays in the case. If granted, Ali would go free without sentencing. Bernard said he had been “determined” to deal with the application in March. But the court heard that a transcription company estimated it would take 12 to 14 weeks to provide documentation that defence & Crown lawyers said they need. The judge adjourned the proceedings until Monday, 2/12/24, asking the lawyers to return with “some answers” in relation to the request for transcripts & the timeline. The "Jordan" framework sets a presumptive acceptable period of delay between charge & conclusion of trial is 18 months for provincial court trials & 30 months for superior court trial. The period is calculated from the time of charging until the actual or anticipated end of trial, minus defence delays.

Thank you for all that you do! Happy birthday to your sister, and good luck to your 49ers!
 
@jash - just wondering if you have seen any updates. Maybe a sentencing hearing finally - or are the defense attorneys going for an appeal. They did have a hearing back on 2/12.
 
@jash - just wondering if you have seen any updates. Maybe a sentencing hearing finally - or are the defense attorneys going for an appeal. They did have a hearing back on 2/12.

I'm not seeing any updates. I haven't been checking the court hearing schedule daily (I checked just now but nothing was scheduled for today).
 
I'm not seeing any updates. I haven't been checking the court hearing schedule daily (I checked just now but nothing was scheduled for today).

Thanks for taking the time to check it out! Will be back in about a week - I guess.... :)
 
Susan Lazaruk/Vancouver Sunabout 13 hours ago
''VANCOUVER — When jurors were selected to serve last year on the high-profile murder trial of Ibrahim Ali, for first-degree murder and sexual assault of a Burnaby teen, they were told to expect to sit for three months.

The trial in B.C. Supreme Court lasted eight months.

The death of a Crown witness, threats against defence lawyers and the accused’s health delayed proceedings.''
 
I hate this type of crimes the most. Here we are combining:
* pedophilia
* sexual assault
* murder
* opportunistic stranger attack

This sort of predators should never get parole, imo. I just don't think you can turn them back into humans.
 
@jash - anything new?? As always - finding nothing... TIA!
 

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