Identified! TN - Knox Co, 'Shotgun Jane Doe' WhtFem 607UFTN, 21-30, Jun'87 - Tena Marie Gattrell

[Roselvr]

Or married or moved on to jobs or went into the military. They were certainly at a much higher risk for bad outcomes, but I doubt if it was ever the majority. Though you could very well be right about this particular woman.

IMO; she was either someone who left for whatever reason; her family tried to make a report & LE said it's not against the law for an adult to leave; or they did not do reports on "runaways"... Or I've also wondered if she's one of the Gypsy community like on My Big Fat American Gypsy Wedding.

 

[carbuff]

IMO; she was either someone who left for whatever reason; her family tried to make a report & LE said it's not against the law for an adult to leave; or they did not do reports on "runaways"... Or I've also wondered if she's one of the Gypsy community like on My Big Fat American Gypsy Wedding.

That's possible too.

I have a deep concern that for whatever reason there's been a false ruleout, and she really is one of the people who has been submitted.

 

[Roselvr]

That's possible too.

I have a deep concern that for whatever reason there's been a false ruleout, and she really is one of the people who has been submitted.

Which rule out?

 

[carbuff]

Which rule out?

I didn't have a particular one in mind. Just that with so many to look at and the way LE is usually overloaded, that she was overlooked in the pile or ruled out on an apparent discrepancy that was actually a mistake or something...

 

[hannah1988]

I didn't have a particular one in mind. Just that with so many to look at and the way LE is usually overloaded, that she was overlooked in the pile or ruled out on an apparent discrepancy that was actually a mistake or something...

I have that same concern about the Grateful Dead fan. I seem to remember a Disappeared episode where the victim was initially ruled out, and then they re-examined the case and found a match.

 

[Fuuro]

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gotlib_ann.html
Hair is listed as red, but SJD's hair looks a little reddish to me. Disappeared from neighboring state. Circumstances of disappearance makes it a bit unlikely. A little young.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bailey_tavia.html
Discrepancy in hair color, but Tavia's hair looks a little on the dark blonde/dirty blonde side. A little short.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/kemp_tina.html
Shorter, but keep in mind that Tina was barely 14 when she went missing 8 years before the doe was found. There's no mention of freckles on SJD's doenetwork page, but that same doenetwork page doesn't seem very thorough.

 

[Roselvr]

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bailey_tavia.html
Discrepancy in hair color, but Tavia's hair looks a little on the dark blonde/dirty blonde side. A little short.

Tavia has been submitted about 2 months ago IIRC

 

[Roselvr]

Unidentified John Doe that appeared in news stories with Shotgun Jane Doe-

TN - Knoxville - BlkMale Skeletal (UP1581), 31-40, Jan'82 - Howard Hardin

04-19-2013, 08:00 AM

Apparently; he's been ID'd
Changes to NamUs UP # 1581
The following fields have been changed:
Case Information : Status changed from "Unidentified" to "Identified"

Today, 10:39 AM

Unidentified Homicide Victim Identified through DNA

A Knoxville man who was killed 32 years ago, but never identified, now has a name. He is Howard Hardin, who was 30 years old at the time of his disappearance. His skeletal remains were found in 1982, in an East Knox County field, the victim of a homicide. Through recent media reports, the family realized that he might be their relative and contacted the Knox County Sheriff’s Office. The mystery was solved when his family submitted DNA and it was a 100% match.

Hardin was reported missing to the Knoxville Police Department by his then girlfriend, Linda Gaile Cole, when he failed to return to his Linden Avenue apartment on January 17, 1981. His remains were discovered almost a year later on January 12, 1982 in an area off Clear Springs Road and Arnold Lane when the property owner found them under some brush. A forensic examination of the remains showed that the victim had been shot in the head, execution style, with a small caliber pistol. Obvious attempts had also been made to conceal the body at the scene.

DNA evidence helps Knox County Sheriff's Office ID 1982 murder victim

Knoxville deputies have identified the man whose body was found in an East Knox County field in 1982.

DNA evidence has confirmed the body to be that of Howard Hardin, who was 30 at the time of his death.

Hardin's family came forward several months ago after seeing a report in a local newspaper about an effort to identify his remains.

Hardin's body was found on January 12, 1982, in an area off of Clear Springs Road and Arnold Lane when the property owner found his skeletal remains under some brush.

A forensic investigation found that Hardin had been shot in the head execution style with a small caliber pistol. Obvious attempts had also been made to conceal the body.

Hardin was originally reported missing almost a year earlier on January 17, 1981 by his then-girlfriend, Linda Gaile Cole, when he failed to return to his Linden Avenue apartment .

Over the years, Knoxville deputies took several steps to find the identity of his body through a missing persons database and even by working with anthropologists to reconstruct his cranium and create age regression images of him.

Crimetracker: Shot "execution-style" 30 years ago, body finally identified

Knox Co. Sheriff's Office says it now knows the name of the man whose body was discovered over three decades ago. Howard Hardin, Jr., was 30 years-old when he disappeared in January 1981.

remains found a year later, but authorities not able to ID until a few months ago when family saw story in local paper. DNA confirmed 100% match.

Hardin's girlfriend Linda Gaile Cole reported him missing on 1-17-1981 when he failed to return home to his apartment. His body was discovered almost exactly a year later on January 12, 1982 under some brush near Clear Springs Road and Arnold Lane.

Forensics revealed Hardin had been shot in the head, execution style, with a small caliber pistol and obvious attempts were made to hide his body.

The Sheriff's Dept. said Hardin's family did not want to be identified, but they did say that though they are grieving his death they are thrilled to know finally what happened to him.

 

[DrDMike]

Could the pelvic scar be related to the broken bones? Maybe she had sustained everything in one accident? I did not review the autopsy report; was she on drugs? If so, one lead to consider is looking for mothers who disappeared when their child was in foster care. Maybe those with daughters named Tina?

 

[Roselvr]

26 years today. I had hoped the isotope testing would have given answers; apparently nothing...

 

[momtective]

KNOXVILLE, TN
Tennessee authorities are asking the public to help them with a cold murder case in which a woman who may have spent time in Louisiana was shot to death.
Authorities also say the woman had these marks: the initials "BH" tattooed on her upper left arm, and a scar on her abdomen that could have been from a C-section or a hysterectomy.

She also had several healed fractures that could be consistent with a car accident and she had a metal plate in one of her legs from the injuries.


http://www.ksla.com/story/22491490/tn-authorities-say-1987-murder-victim-could-be-from-louisiana

 

[chaddylex]

This lady hasn't been mentioned as a possible match.. What do you think?

Susan Oliver Scott
Missing since August 1985 from East Baton Rouge LA

More at link:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/scott_susan.html

Height is close,
The UID and Susan both have Brown eyes and Brown hair
Louisana Connection..
She had two young children, the UID has a scar on her abdomen, possibly from a C section


It doesn't list any fractures or tattoos on Susan's page....
Do you think she is worth submitting?



According to her Charley Project profile, Authorities stated that Susan left her house on her own accord. Her car was found in the Amite River Diversion Canal 5 weeks after her disappearance with the keys in the ignition but her body was never found.

Side by side pics


View attachment Susan Oliver Scott.bmp

 

[Roselvr]

Already in NamUs with DNA

 

[chaddylex]

Already in NamUs with DNA

I saw that after I posted yesterday. I wonder why they didn't add her to the ruleout list.

 

[Roselvr]

What I see is that if there is DNA on file; it's an auto rule out. The one's we've been submitting are missing girls that are not in NamUs or are there with no DNA. NamUs has been really stepping it up; trying to get DNA for everyone listed. What upsets us is that they are not listing every one that we've submitted. If they have been submitted & are not a match due to dentals or what ever; they should be listed so that we don't spent time sleuthing them. It's frustrating.

 

[Roselvr]

https://identifyus.org/cases/1567

The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent: 221 total

First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA

ROBYN ADLER 1960 Florida

Ellen Akers 1966 Florida

Tammy Akers 1962 Virginia

Elaine Allenbach 1965 Washington

Angela Ambrocio 1967 Florida

Cynthia Anderson 1961 Ohio

Maria Anjiras 1961 Connecticut

Andria Bailey 1963 Washington

Nancy Baird 1952 Utah

Rose Baker 1940 Texas

SHARI BALL 1963 Florida

Lynn Bandringa 1945 California

Donna Barnhill 1967 North Carolina

Susan Bender 1970 California

Bonita Bickwit 1958 New York

Amy Billig 1957 Florida

Priscilla Blevins 1948 North Carolina

Lisa Borden 1960 Texas

Nancy Brannon 1952 Missouri

Janet Brice 1961 Louisiana

Niki Britten 1953 Oregon

Peggy Byars-Baisden 1941 Florida

Rosemary Calandriello 1952 New Jersey

Aida Calfee 1955 Georgia

Joy Cannon 1956 Tennessee

Benita Chamberlin 1953 Oregon

Debra Cole 1969 Indiana

Darlene Conklin 1959 New York
Jana Coonan 1959 Massachusetts 4-17-13

Carla Corley 1965 Alabama

Jan Cotta 1954 New Jersey

Barbara Cotton 1965 North Dakota
Brenda Crowley 1963 New York ---- 3/12/13

Valarie Cuccia 1953 New York

Beverli Darnell 1961 Florida

Evelyn Davis 1962 Ohio

Linda Davis 1946 Oklahoma

Freda Denman 1947 Missouri

Peggy Dianovsky 1954 Illinois

Carol Donn 1963 Florida

Kimberly Doss 1962 Florida

Kathleen Durst 1952 New York

Diane Dye 1965 California

Christine Eastin 1952 California

Carol Edwards 1955 Washington

Elizabeth Eisel 1962 Washington

Ann Ellinwood 1965 Oregon

Megan Emerick 1956 Alaska

Loy Evitts 1947 Kansas

Sherry Eyerly 1963 Oregon

Tammy L. Fields 1965

Theresa Fischbach 1969 Texas

Laura Flink 1947 Washington

Dixie Forrester 1939 Missouri

Margaret Fox 1960 New Jersey

Erica Franolich 1960 New York

AMANDA FRAVEL 1966 Nevada

Rose Gayhart 1962 New York

Theresa Geaves 1959 Utah

Trenny Gibson 1960 Tennessee

Sharon Giusti 1943 Washington

Paula Godfrey 1965 Kansas

Martha Green 1970 Tennessee

Shannon Green 1969 Kentucky

Cherry Greenman 1956 Washington

Kathryn Gregory 1957 Washington

Linda Grimm 1961 California

APRIL GRISANTI 1964 Connecticut

Jamie Grissim 1955 Washington

Corinne Groenenberg 1957 California

Julie Grubaugh 1961 Arizona

Billie Jean Hall 1960 Maryland

Joan Hall 1966 Oregon

Teresa Hammon 1963 California

Darla Harper 1960 Arkansas

Diana Harris 1953 Florida

Evelyn Hartley 1937 Wisconsin

Terrie Hefner 1964 Texas

Lorraine Herbster 1962 New Jersey

Frankie Horsley 1964 North Carolina

Michelle Houchman 1967 California

Tinze Huels 1967 Florida

Wendy Huggy 1965 Florida

Barbara Hunt 1964 Virginia

Rochelle Ihm 1966 Arizona

Rita Jolly 1955 Oregon

Gail Katz-Bierenbaum 1956 New York

Patricia Kelley Tennessee

Terry Kelley 1953 California

Rebecca Kellison 1954 Colorado

Patricia Kelly Unknown Tennessee

Patricia Lousie Kelly 1957

Kimberly Kersey 1968 Washington

Cindy King 1961 Oregon

Tracy King 1960 Pennsylvania

Hazel Klug 1962 Virginia
Vicke Lamberton 1949 Massachusetts 4/17/13

Ruth Leamon 1966 California

Patricia Leblanc 1968 Washington

Karen Lee 1961 Oregon

Tammy Leppert 1965 Florida

Cynthia Leslie 1959 Arizona

Jackie Leslie 1961 Arizona

Lori Lloyd 1961 Ohio

Mary Long 1964 California

Charlotte Loomis 1958 New Jersey

Debora Lowe 1958 Florida

Carol Lubahn 1954 California

Annabelle Ludwig 1941 Ohio

Lynn Luray 1948 California

Dorothy Madden 1948 Ohio
Sheree Magaro 1956 Maryland 4/17/13

Elizabeth Maggard 1961 Kentucky

Tammy Mahoney 1961 New York

Cynthia Maine 1959 California

Aleca Manning 1952 Arizona

Sherry Marler 1971 Alabama

Carolyn Martin 1957 Michigan

Leslie Martin-Porter 1959 California

Jonelle Matthews 1972 Colorado

Shirley McBride 1969 New Hampshire

Tammie McCormick 1972 New York

Sharon McCully 1959 Texas

Tamera McCurry 1960 Texas

Angela Meeker 1965 Washington

Deborah Meyer 1958 Wyoming

Diana Miller 1962 Pennsylvania

Elizabeth Miller 1969 Colorado

Connie Minchaca 1960 California

Barbara Monaco 1960 Virginia

Barbara Monaco 1960 Virginia

Kimberly Moreau 1969 Maine

Kelly Morrissey 1968 New York

Michelle Mulcahy 1961 Florida

Debra Murr 1956 Tennessee

Pamela Nater 1946 Florida

Pamela Neal 1960 Colorado

Audrey Nerenberg 1958 New York

Dana Null 1963 Florida

Donna O'Banion 1960 Louisiana

Mary Opitz 1963 Florida

Patricia Otto 1952 Idaho

Jeanne Overstreet 1963 Arizona

Jennifer Pandos 1971 Virginia

Eleanor Parker 1962 Louisiana

Kristina Perkins 1953 Arizona

Cynthia Perry 1968 North Carolina

Dean Pyle Peters 1966 Michigan

Linda Peterson 1949 Utah

Elizabeth Pfeifer 1965 Texas

Mary Plavnick 1962 Florida

Denise Porch 1954 North Carolina

Tamara Porrin 1971 Pennsylvania

Wanda Priddy 1958 Texas

Debra Pscholka 1958 California

Behdokht Pyke 1952 Florida

Kathryn Quackenbush 1964 Maryland 6/7/13
Deborah Quimby 1963 Massachusetts 4/17/13

Laureen Rahn 1966 New Hampshire

Angela Ramsey 1961 Florida

Kathleen Randall 1958 Georgia

Mary Rawlinson 1966 California

Donnis Redman 1943 California

Leichia Reilly 1963 New York

Marcia Remick 1962 Virginia

Linda Reynolds 1952 Arkansas
Simone Ridinger 1960 Massachusetts 4/17/13

Susan Riedling 1967 Kentucky

Sherry Roach 1959 California

Rochelle Robbins 1951 California

Elaine Robertson 1955 Washington

Christine Rodriguez 1966 California

Alma Root 1965 California

Nancy Rose 1950 Idaho

Cindy Rowles 1968 New York

Doris SCANDALIS 1930 California

Lucinda Schaefer 1962 California

Gayla Schaper 1951 Idaho

Patricia Schmidt 1964 Virginia

Diane Schulte 1954 Idaho

Suzanne Schultz 1961 Wisconsin

Lynne Schulze 1953 Vermont

Khymbrly SCRUGGS 1960 California

Beverly Sharpman 1930 Pennsylvania

Denise Sheehy 1954 New York

Martha Shelton 1944 Kentucky

Mary Shinn 1953 Arkansas

Catherine Sjoberg 1957 Wisconsin

Bertha Smith 1913 Arizona

Cindy Smith 1960 Florida

Debra Spickler 1955 Connecticut

Mary Sprague 1960 Florida

Vicki Arleen Sundgaard 1963

Sheri Swims 1961 Florida

Mary Ann Switalski 1946 Illinois

Michelle Thomas 1967 Texas

Nadine Timm 1935 Illinois

Pamela Tinsley 1966 Oklahoma

Deborah Tomlinson 1957 Oregon

Mary Trlica 1957 Texas

Donna Urban 1959 Delaware

Leah Van Schoick 1965 Florida

Emma Vaughn 1967 Florida

Wilma Vermaas 1952 California

Floradean Walker 1925 Texas

Sheree Warren 1960 Utah

Darlene Webb 1962 Florida

Virginia Welch 1960 Virginia

Christina White 1967 Washington

Rochelle White 1951 California

Nancy Willis 1961 Tennessee

Nancy Willis 1961 Tennessee

Karen Wilson 1963 New York

Lisa Wilson 1960 Texas

Verla Winter 1939 Washington

Cynthia Woolard 1957 Florida

Judy WORRELL 1957 California

Cheryl Wyant 1964 California

Jennifer Wyant 1958 Tennessee

Amy Yachimec 1968 Arizona

Karen Zendrosky 1963 New Jersey

 

[Wanting2Help]

What I see is that if there is DNA on file; it's an auto rule out. The one's we've been submitting are missing girls that are not in NamUs or are there with no DNA. NamUs has been really stepping it up; trying to get DNA for everyone listed. What upsets us is that they are not listing every one that we've submitted. If they have been submitted & are not a match due to dentals or what ever; they should be listed so that we don't spent time sleuthing them. It's frustrating.

I always thought that it had to be the same type of DNA for an auto rule out? Ex. mtDNA cannot be compared to nucDNA. Is this wrong? If so, I have a lot of cases to go back thru... TIA

 

[CarlK90245]

I always thought that it had to be the same type of DNA for an auto rule out? Ex. mtDNA cannot be compared to nucDNA. Is this wrong? If so, I have a lot of cases to go back thru... TIA

That is correct. mtDNA cannot be compared to nucDNA.

 

[Roselvr]

That is correct. mtDNA cannot be compared to nucDNA.

Do you have a link that explains the differences? I'm not finding what I'm looking for


This link may tell the differences; I don't have time to read through it
The Use of Nuclear DNA (nucDNA) Typing and Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) Sequencing in the Identification Process


DNA Information

For the identification of current casualties, nuclear DNA (nucDNA) provides a tool for positive identification, when other forensic techniques, such as a fingerprint or dental comparison is not possible. Unfortunately, nucDNA is not a viable tool in older remains due to many environmental factors that cause the nucDNA to degrade. These factors include such things as ultra-violet light from the sun, heat, and moisture. For older remains, however, recovered from the battlefields of Korea, the Cold War, World War II, and Southeast Asia (SEA), mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) has proved to be a useful investigative tool that adds additional detail towards a positive identification.

Understanding DNA Family tree DNA -

At conception, a person receives DNA from both the father and mother. We each have 23 pairs of chromosomes. Of each pair, one was received from the father and one was received from the mother. These 23 pairs of chromosomes are known as nuclear DNA because, with the exception of red blood cells, they reside in the nucleus of every cell in our body.

The 23rd chromosome is known as the sex chromosome. As with the other chromosomes, one is inherited from the father, and one from the mother. The 23rd chromosome from the mother is always an X. From the father, a person either inherits an X chromosome or a Y chromosome. The chromosome inherited from the father determines their gender. An X from the father would result in an XX combination, which is a female. A Y from the father would result in an XY combination, which is a male.

We also inherit our mitochondrial DNA, mtDNA, from our mother, and none from our father. Mitochondrial DNA is located outside the nucleus of the cell.

 

[Roselvr]

New article. Happy to see they did not say hysterectomy! I've been trying to follow articles posted to link to her partial autopsy report where it says uterus & ovaries intact

The Mystery of 'Shotgun Jane'