Recent content by Valhall

Do to the way the orders were written there HAD to be a third party present. The interesting part is that the other times it was GMA's third party supervisor present. Most likely someone she is friends with, or at least has some connection with since she selected her. This time it was one of...

This is correct.

We have several roads in Oklahoma which have corrections for the surveys. Remember that this area was surveyed as several separate territories, Indian and Oklahoma, with different meridian lines (Indian versus Cimarron, etc.) and so when the surveys met up, they had to correct any mismatch...

I agree with this interpretation.

More of a crossover, but I guess some people would call it an SUV.

I have not seen anything that indicates they were picking up at any time other than the designated time of 8:00 am in the custody papers. So they would have left Hugoton around 7 am.

There is a lake (of sorts), yes, there is. Wild Horse Lake. I have actually submitted a tip to LE concerning this lake for reasons I won't discuss here.

They've already stated that the last ping was at the location of the car. That's been reported. I don't want to know information on the investigation, I want to know what should have already been shared. The last time the families of these women saw them alive and when they left. That's all...

I don't believe I've seen this document. Could you please share what the visitation time was? This doesn't actually lock in anything as fact, though, because this was a special occasion, one of her child's birthdays, so there may have been special arrangements for this particular day, but I'd...

They have not stated they know when they left. I don't give two shakes what the grandmother says since she's the one claiming they never arrived, so her reliability is nonexistent in my eyes right now. In fact, everyone on that side of the children's families are not reliable to me at this...

And I will add one more thing on that note. If I were Jilian's husband and with OSBI acting like they don't even know why these women were together, I'd reach out to the FBI and get them involved because OSBI obviously can't rule out an interstate kidnapping.

I understand that but this type of reporting, including the obfuscating statements from the OSBI helps NO ONE, including them (OSBI). If you state the factual last time either one of these women was seen (i.e. when Jilian left the house, when her last phone ping occurred, etc.) you can't...

https://www.koco.com/article/oklahoma-missing-women-texas-county-disappearance-jillian-kelley-veronica-butler/60388744 At the end of the video...."not clear WHEN the last time these women were seen". Seriously? Jilian is a mother of 4 and wife to a pastor who had to be very involved in...

I don't think anything happened at the location they found the car. I think they DID reach their destination, got taken some place and then their car was abandoned at this intersection to throw things off and make the gma's story that they never arrived play.

I have a feeling they were taken some where in the car and the car brought back and abandoned. There is something that the OSBI agent kind of slipped on when he was in that interview that he tried not to say much of nothing in. He made the statement something like this "we need to verify who...