Found Deceased TN - Riley Strain, 22, missing from a bar, Nashville, 8 March 2024

[loveisthemovement]

Recently a local to me restaurant temporarily lost their liquor license because they served a customer a ton of shots in a short period. This customer left, made it only a few kilometres where he crashed his car and died. While the restaurant doesn't seem to have a legal obligation once the customer leaves the venue, I wonder where the moral line is.

I've never worked in the restaurant or bar industry. Maybe they see so many inebriated patrons that they become numb to the realities of the situation.

 

[Jennyt0103]

"We just want to find him and we just want to be able to take him home," said Chris.

Metro Police say they're working on getting surveillance video from Broadway and the surrounding area. Strain's family says they're also waiting for court paperwork, so they can get access to his bank card transactions and Apple Watch.

Man, 22, reported missing after being kicked out of Luke Bryan's Nashville bar

A man is missing after he was kicked out of a popular bar on lower Broadway last Friday, Metro Police confirm.

fox17.com

I pray they find this young man alive!

 

[CHEL]

Recently a local to me restaurant temporarily lost their liquor license because they served a customer a ton of shots in a short period. This customer left, made it only a few kilometres where he crashed his car and died. While the restaurant doesn't seem to have a legal obligation once the customer leaves the venue, I wonder where the moral line is.

I've never worked in the restaurant or bar industry. Maybe they seem so many inebriated patrons that they become numb to the realities of the situation.

Same thing happened with Reggie's in Baton Rouge after Madison Brooks left Reggie's drunk with no good guys who left her on side of the road. She was hit by a car and killed and the bar shut down shortly after.

 

[JessG78]

Have any videos been pulled from inside the establishment (bar) to see the activity going on prior to when RS kicked out of the bar? Thinking it's important to know what happened and why RS picked out as the one being over-served, and who over-served him, did something get dropped in his drink? Is this typical for this bar to kick people out for over-serving? moo

I also wondered about that. What drew their attention to him to decide to put him out? A quiet, “overserved” person who isn’t causing a commotion shouldn’t be an issue but a loud boisterous, argumentative person would be asked to leave for obvious reasons.

I wonder if the “friends”/frat brothers are quiet because there’s more to the story of RS being put out of the bar than they’re willing to share. Possibly trying to save face and protect his clean-cut, friendly image. He could be the nice, gentle guy who is described AND the drunk guy as well. His friends are faced with relaying info to parents and law enforcement, while trying to protect his image, themselves and their fraternity. That’s scary especially for young folks. None of that matters because he is missing but there seems to be some type of “protecting” going on.

In my college years, there was a person in my group of friends who would drink and seem to be okay but at some point he would just lose it. It was baffling. Like someone flipped a switch. He would become a totally different person. Argumentative and would randomly run…and run fast. It got to the point where we told him that he couldn’t go with us anymore because no one could have fun with him around. He was obnoxious. There were a few times when we were about to just let him take off on his own, but luckily someone would go after him. Maybe RS had one of those nights.

 

[x_files]

I get it, people are wary of intoxicated people and as you said - they're unpredictable.
But situations like this could be completely avoidable, and then we wouldn't be reading this thread or many others like it.
It's just sad, really hoping for the best, but as each day passes, the best outcome now would appear to be the recovery of Riley.
His poor parents and family, this must be agony for them.

Moo

No beat cops out on that street late at night? I find that odd. If a cop was available he could have noticed and helped.

 

[Imvp2]

True but the inference here is that the bar is responding to the suggestion they are somehow responsible for Riley's disappearance whereas the car manufacturers are allowing LE to access the vehicle information without any whiff of responsibility. I make that claim because many comments made by the public suggest the onus falls on the bar.

I was there a year ago . And regularly for the past 5 yrs. Same time of year. Yes these places with famous names on their buildings, are mega bars. Bartenders at every level. These are my observations and thoughts.

These places readily collect the covers $$ and charge big for drinks. I understand it would be difficult for a bartender to know how many drinks were served to who. In my opinion, the people that know are the bouncers that regularly remove overserved, causing issues, etc. Happens in all the places. There are bouncers and security regularly moving about all levels.

Rather than escorting them out a back or side door, there should be some type quiet or "sober" room for these folks to be escorted to first. Offer water, soft drinks, even a peanut butter sandwich, crackers, etc. Keeping them there for about 60 minutes, then releasing them outside the club if able to. Or contact medical if need be. They make plenty of money from patrons to support such a thing! These mega clubs need to take responsibility. We only learn about these "bounce" practices when something bad happens.

 

[MesquiteO21]

I don’t know why men gravitate to water while drunk but Im Dutch and lived most of my life in Amsterdam. We had / have so many drownings every year mostly tourists and expats. All men. Whenever a man was missing I knew hes in water and I see this phenomenon in other countries as well.

Once I was in a bar by the water and young expat gone missing while going to the bathroom and never came back. He was found almost 2 weeks later in water. Probably gone to the bathroom by the water because the bar I was at was notorious for busy bathrooms.

I guess one reason is as some of you mentioned going to pee in the water.
Im adding some article about that issue as to why so many young men die in water.
I hope that Riley will be found safe but I do believe he is in the water.

Why do so many men die in Amsterdam’s canals?

Never pee in a canal, never pee alone

dutchdeadline.substack.com

this has also happened a lot in the upper midwest of the United States where there are a lot of lakes

going to pee and stumbling/losing balance makes sense. also makes sense we don't really see this happening with women because most likely the vast majority of women aren't going to be inclined to go pee in a body of water

 

[branmuffin]

I was there a year ago . And regularly for the past 5 yrs. Same time of year. Yes these places with famous names on their buildings, are mega bars. Bartenders at every level. These are my observations and thoughts.

These places readily collect the covers $$ and charge big for drinks. I understand it would be difficult for a bartender to know how many drinks were served to who. In my opinion, the people that know are the bouncers that regularly remove overserved, causing issues, etc. Happens in all the places. There are bouncers and security regularly moving about all levels.

Rather than escorting them out a back or side door, there should be some type quiet or "sober" room for these folks to be escorted to first. Offer water, soft drinks, even a peanut butter sandwich, crackers, etc. Keeping them there for about 60 minutes, then releasing them outside the club if able to. Or contact medical if need be. They make plenty of money from patrons to support such a thing! These mega clubs need to take responsibility. We only learn about these "bounce" practices when something bad happens.

It would have to be as big as a barn if the level of drunken tourists in this area is anything to go by.

 

[deadfoot13]

Does anyone have any idea why drunk men gravitate towards water vs women? I find it odd!
I know drunk logic is NOt normal logic but why aren't women gravitating towards water as well?

I found this article by Anderson Cooper on CNN

CNN.com - Anderson Cooper 360° Blog

Just MOO, but the sound of moving water is soothing and can cover up the sound of someone urinating. It's also visually appealing, reflecting city lights or the moon.

It's hard to stay upright when drunk and standing still, so I can easily imagine someone stopping to urinate or take a selfie and losing their balance. Once you've fallen, it takes longer to process what just happened and by that time it's too late.

I think women probably do possibly gravitate towards water, but we have to find places a little less conspicuous to urinate outside so we're not so close to the edge or standing close to the railing on a bridge.

Again, MOO.

 

[Teche]

I don’t think this has been covered, and I have to admit I don’t know cars very well. But in all the videos there is a black car that looks like it could be the same. But more so, in the video clip where he falls, at the very beginning it looks like he could be interacting with two others. It even looks like he puts his arm out as if to keep them at a distant. Then we see him run through the parking lot. I’ve included some pictures. Go back and watch videos. I know there are a million black cars, but what do you all think? I numbered the photos:View attachment 490368View attachment 490369View attachment 490371View attachment 490372View attachment 490373
1.) The interaction.
2.) Him walking away right before left turn into parking lot and running. You can see a black car Also another photo of closer pic of car.
3.) Walking on sidewalk prior to reaching construction intersection with car passing.
4.) Closer pic of car. Bicyclist also slowly rides by but not in picture.
5.) Black car turning just before he crosses road.

I know this is probably nothing. But since there aren’t that many cars on the road in these clips, thought it was worth pointing out.

@carbuff could probably identify the vehicle.

 

[Trebor5591]

This article is making me less certain Riley went into the water.
New leads
......"we get new leads and go down different avenues,” family friend Chris Dingman said. “We’re going to get there, but it also opens up more doors on what could’ve possibly happened."
Scaling back the water search, the homeless guy who evidently saw Riley (past the last ping area, I'm not sure). "Dingman said they walked along the banks of the river and stopped at several homeless camps. One person recognized Strain from a photo but did not remember where he went."
The family also took a boat 14 miles down the river....nothing found. Would a body have surfaced by now? 4/5 days?

Search for Riley Strain continues as new investigation begins

The 22-year-old college student has been missing in Nashville since Friday night.

www.wsmv.com

In my opinion, the likelihood of finding Riley alive after 6 days missing is zero percent, sorry to say.

 

[JessG78]

It would have to be as big as a barn if the level of drunken tourists in this area is anything to go by.

Bigger!!! It’s massive and there are multiple other massive bars in that area.

 

[swanniee11]

WZTV FOX 17 News, Nashville

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update 17 min ago. Nothing new but pictures of area near water.

 

[whitelilac]

In my opinion, the likelihood of finding Riley alive after 6 days missing is zero percent, sorry to say.

I agree. Any glimmer of hope is fast disappearing. Though I still want to allow for a 1%.
I only hope now that Riley is found so that the parents don't have to suffer the not knowing and uncertainty for the rest of their lives, as devastating as it will be to have lost their son in the the first place.

 

[branmuffin]

Great point. yes, safety in numbers even with men. They should probably teach this at Colleges, even pamphlets and posters, just get the info into their minds to stick together when high, intoxicated.

But what if they are all high and intoxicated, what happens then? Do people assign a sober person to babysit a group of individuals who have consumed tons of alcohol? Logistics would suggest it doesn't work. It would be like herding cats.

I wonder about the legal drinking age sometimes and how it seems to coincide with a time in a young adult's life where they are officially independent, away from home in new setting, meeting new people and everything feels exciting and new. Up until they turn 21 it's illegal to drink so it stand to reason that the time they've officially become an adult is the time they also overindulge.

 

[worm]

In my opinion, the likelihood of finding Riley alive after 6 days missing is zero percent, sorry to say.

I can’t get the notion of some foul act by another person or 2 involved out of my head. Out of the way areas in tourist towns are often dangerous.

 

[branmuffin]

I was there a year ago . And regularly for the past 5 yrs. Same time of year. Yes these places with famous names on their buildings, are mega bars. Bartenders at every level. These are my observations and thoughts.

These places readily collect the covers $$ and charge big for drinks. I understand it would be difficult for a bartender to know how many drinks were served to who. In my opinion, the people that know are the bouncers that regularly remove overserved, causing issues, etc. Happens in all the places. There are bouncers and security regularly moving about all levels.

Rather than escorting them out a back or side door, there should be some type quiet or "sober" room for these folks to be escorted to first. Offer water, soft drinks, even a peanut butter sandwich, crackers, etc. Keeping them there for about 60 minutes, then releasing them outside the club if able to. Or contact medical if need be. They make plenty of money from patrons to support such a thing! These mega clubs need to take responsibility. We only learn about these "bounce" practices when something bad happens.

How many people would this bar hold legally? Like in case of a fire? Does every level have a fire escape?

 

[Trebor5591]

MAR 13, 2024

‘Why didn’t somebody help?’: Parents want change after concerning video of missing University of Missouri student released

The Tennessee Alcoholic Beverage Commission (TABC) has opened an investigation after a Missouri college student went missing from downtown Nashville while on a fraternity formal.

www.wkrn.com

The Tennessee Alcoholic Beverage Commission (TABC) has opened an investigation after a Missouri college student went missing from downtown Nashville while on a fraternity formal.

[...]

“I wish that number one, they would’ve just called him an Uber or cab, or I mean something or waited for their friends, let him wait for his friends,” said Michelle Whiteid, Strain’s mom. “And I wish that somebody on the street would have helped him, just anyone. There were so many people; somebody has to know something… he would have helped anyone.”

Metro police told News 2 they are still working to collect surveillance video of the area. On Wednesday, March 13, Strain’s parents said they themselves had seen limited surveillance footage. They called on Luke Bryan directly for help.

[...]

Why didn't somebody help? I can understand a parent's frustration, but I can hazard a guess as to why nobody stepped forward to help a stumbling drunk, 6 foot 5 inch young man. I think most everyone has experience with "mean drunks"--those people who when drink, turn mean, and want to fight. All it takes is one experience like that to make a smart person avoid drunk people all together. Expecting a stranger to help a drunk man is asking a lot. If anyone is going to help a drunk young college student, it is their friends--and I really wonder why none of his frat buddies helped him. Someone must have seen him get "kicked out" of that bar. Why didn't one of his buddies help him? There is more of this story than is being told. What happened in that bar? That's what I am wondering. JMO.

 

[JessG78]

How many people would this bar hold legally? Like in case of a fire? Does every level have a fire escape?

Luke's 32 Bridge

www.visitmusiccity.com

Scroll down on the site. It gives a description and states that it’s 6 floors. If you scroll further down, under meeting spaces, it gives you an idea of capacity for hosting events there. I’m sure it holds more for regular operations.

 

[Hanoi2009]

Anyone who has served 22 year-olds alcohol for any length of time, imo. I agree with the OP. The bar staff was late in cutting him off.

I know it makes sense for people to want to blame the bar, but we don't know that RS ever purchased a drink on his own. So many groups take turns buying rounds. It's entirely plausible that someone much less drunk bought rounds that included drinks for RS. He absolutely could've gotten really drunk without ever interacting with the bartenders for them to realize he needed to be cut off...until he did something that triggered the security staff bouncing him. Surely the bar has video; I'd be curious to see what that shows...