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yes, thanks for the girlfriend!! Even now that they are married, she keeps us up to date

I can see bars not wanting to assist every drunk. I meant the group he was with, IMO

Did the fraterniy have representation at the funeral?? Anyone attend? I agree that being in a fraternity for just 4 or so years from 18-22years is not always forever friends. A lot of ego, testosterone, etc. Did he have friends from high school who he might have communicated with who either...

Boys/young men IMO are clearly different than girls/young women when it comes to comraderie,loyalty and friendship, etc. Sometimes boys and girls are better friends. Again, IMO, there is no excuse for the other guys letting him leave on his own to just wander. Especially if these guys were like...

Oh me too. I have 2 sons and 5 grandsons who have been thorough this stage of life and thankfully they all have lived through it. There is just something that is not right, IMO. Maybe no one is involved directly with his death but I can't help but feel like the evening was as benign as what has...

If the fraternity was assured the family would not take legal action against them, then maybe they would talk. If these guys were as close as the mother says they were, they would talk. Their son was an adult. I can certainly understand both sides of this sad situation.

If I was the parent of this young man, I would need to know and maybe they know but it isn't for public knowledge Where else and how much the guys drank before they went to this bar? Could his drink have been compromised but no one elses was? What he did to get kicked out of the bar? Did any of...

Hmm, he was an exellent swimmer. I'm struggling with the fact that he could walk and speak but was not coherent enough to be startled when he hit the water to save himself. Also, his body would metabolize the alcohol over the hours he was still alive to make him more coherent to then get...

Why are we not surprised that AM once again thought he was the smartest guy in the room and did and will continue to lie and manipulate until he breathes his last breath? The truth is not in the DNA of that family, even the survivors! JMO.

It's always the other guy's fault

Agree and would like to know what he allegedly did that was so horrible to then force the bar to toss him out.

It's also not easy to get cowboy boots off in any culture.

If he was consious when he hit the water, he would likely remove boots, pants and not care about his wallet but I have never heard of a dry drowning. In 1985 three dear friends on snow mobiles on a Michigan lake went through thin ice. When bodies were found helmets and boots were missing. Sad...

The truth is not in him!!

Agree. She, if not in her own mind, viewed herself as 'special' whether it was her position in the community or her lineage in the community. Whatever, it has backfired on her and a quiet exit would have showed more class than bringing it to the public.

Five years ago, my granddaughter was with a group of kids while in high school and one kid was swept away in ocean undercurrent and she still thinks about it. Yes it could happen to any of them but it didn't and it happened to their friend. They may not share their thoughts of the incident but...

I bet she will retire from community service. She really needs to go quietly.

I agree. That will haunt them.

If it has been discussed, my apology, but is it known what hed did to get tossed from the bar in the first place??

Wonder why he didn't get a cab or uber or something that could take him back to hotel.