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In the local paper this morning someone has started a petition titled Free Alyssa Bustamante at the petitionspot. Someone even had the gall to sign it as if they were Elizabeth. In response to that I started one titled Justice For Elizabeth. I am hoping Elizabeth's supporters totally...

Thanks mia g. You explained my feelings beautifully. In addition to not wanting to gamble on whether or not she can be or has been rehabilitated, I believe that there is also the justice issue. Regardless of whether or not she is ever successfully rehabilitated, Elizabeth will remain dead and...

Simple enough... Insane is a legal term, not a medical diagnosis. http://social.jrank.org/pages/1357/Legal-System-Insanity-Defense-Overview.html

I agree. Those people are legally insane.

I disagree. She planned, schemed, killed, and attempted to evade responsibility by concealing the body "very well". She's not LEGALLY insane!

You are absolutely right. I stand corrected. They can try it but I wouldn't expect it to work.

I see something in there that should prevent this defense: "552.030. 1. A person is not responsible for criminal conduct if, at the time of such conduct, as a result of mental disease or defect such person was incapable of knowing and appreciating the nature, quality, or wrongfulness of such...

I spent many years working in two different institutions in this area of MO. I agree with almost everything you said. The exception being: In all my time there (which covered every shift), I never had a single meal that was good, let alone great. :sick:

The first prison that I worked at here was a "regular" prison. The inmates had access to psych if they requested it or were referred. There was NOT psych on hand 24/7, only medical and there was one dept. to service the entire population, instead of one in each unit. The second prison that...

Bolded By Me

My first thought about the pics with her wrist was that those marks could be as much a "fashion" statement as a cry for help. I know that sounds crazy but I know people... regular, sane, intelligent people who have branded each other just for fun. Obviously Alyssa needed help but I just can't...

I'm confused now... Calling all legal eagles.... When Jodibug and I were discussing what transpired during the arraignment she said the judge asked Alyssa if she had an attorney and she responded Jan King and the judge explained to her that she was a public defender, not her attorney. It was...

Give minibug a kiss for me!

I thought you were going to bed!?!?! So, since you're here, give us more details!!!

Can you provide a good link to this? I wanna see what's being said and couldn't get the other one to work. TIA

Alyssa may or may not need to attend status hearing on Dec. 7th. P was chewing gum the whole time and looked mad. Jodibug says she has big dark bags under her eyes (poor woman). Alyssa made no eye contact with her family, looked straight ahead at judge the entire time. After she left...

Mug shot will be released today. They saw the family on camera this afternoon. Alyssa's Family was behind the defense table. Alyssa is now sporting a green Cole Co. Jail jumpsuit. Alyssa did speak, answered a few questions. Entered alone, sat alone. Jan King is the public attorney she will...

Judge ordered a plea of not guilty on her behalf as Kurt Valentine did NOT return.

I am sitting here poised and ready, waiting for Jodibug to make my phone ring.

Unfortunately I don't have any way to get ahold of her right now. She had to leave her cell phone in the car when she went back in the courthouse.