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I wish that they would have asked just to put a stop to the conspiracy theorists.

If they asked to look around and then seized something it would be illegal. They would need a warrant to seize stuff. If they had asked and they were let in and then found something it may not have been allowed in court. McCabe was taken for her word because the investigation was unfolding and...

So let's say you are the investigator that wants to search the basement...on that morning. You can't just walk in and do it. What is your next course of action? When you go to the judge to ask for the warrant what is in your probable cause affidavit? You have to write it up stating what you...

Is there a wrongful death civil suit by JO's family against KR?

Even if her car was beeping if she was backing into an object doesn't mean she listened to it and adjusted herself. Keep in mind she was drunk and likely mad at JO and not in a good frame of mind.

I would love to read all the messages between the two of them. KR doesn't strike me as somebody who would make it easy to leave a relationship.

Alcohol + Anger = People doing nonsensical things. IMHO I don't think she set out to murder him but I think they were arguing on their way to the house and she told him to GTFO and sped off hitting him in the process. She goes home and then has an oh crap moment and goes out looking for him...

There's the conspiracy angle and there is also the shoddy police work angle. Just because the police did a crappy job with some things doesn't mean there is a big cover up. I think what happened initially is that police & EMS were called to the scene of an injured male laying in the snow. EMS...

That's a good point. Even if the family dog did bite Jon would those wound have been fatal? Is the defense saying that a person or people in the house beat John up and then the dog bit his arm and then they dragged him outside and threw him in the snow and then made up the snowplow/KR story...

Exactly. Jake Rowley needs to zip it and let the medical examiner do their job. Since when is he an expert? I don't like how he is deflecting.

HGR had been convicted already so there was nobody to sway with the video. The judge considered HGR's conduct after her trial, i.e. the jail phone calls and her inability to show remorse along with the seriousness of the offence that resulted in a death.

OMG this speech by HGR. It's all about her.

The Emma and Chad conversation is shocking. Human remains are found in the yard, police are on scene, her Dad is in a police car and tells her that he isn't coming back and her reaction is all about finances and getting back into the house. I don't understand her. There's so much wrong with so...

Imagine this case without the video and there was only the testimony.

Whoa. Somebody needs to do a deep dive podcast expose on this.

ITA there is a lack of civility and people don't know when to let things go. People one up each other and nobody wants to back down. We have to 'win' the argument all the time. Every single person that was present at that Apple river confrontation were in the wrong. There is no reason for...

The ones who laid hands on NM and pushed him into the water should be charged with assault. Unfortunately there is a lack of respect for others these days. If you are over 30 try walking somewhere where there are 'kids' in this age group. They won't move over for you on the sidewalk and...

How many of them had social media apps on their phones. There is no way that they weren't taking photos & snaps and sending/posting them. I call bull on the face punch that was supposedly heard over and above all the ruckus. If there was a photo the parents would have kept a copy and you know...

Oh dear. If this was yet another lie told on the stand then the defense is going to go to town with this. Sounds like the prosecution popped the bed on this trial.

Everyone there should have walked away. Miu could have asked the tubers to help him look for the phone. The tubers could have not become an angry mob. I hope everyone involved looks at how their level of intoxication and actions led to where we are today.