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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #5

    Okay, let us be clear that professionals are not infallible. In every field, there are many mistakes made, some because of a lack of caring, others because they just shouldn't be at the professional level. Does that apply to the entire spectrum? Not at all. Refer to my last post in regards to...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #5

    <modsnip> School as the cause is speculation. However, there is no single stressor that can be ruled out. I'll interject my professional opinion here. Yes, we do not know whether Elisa was sane or not during the video. However, given my analysis, along with colleagues, we have all stated that no...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #5

    Okay. I may or may not cross a line here, so if I do then I am sure Summer Breeze or Bessie will let me know. This case has little to go on. What we do have is a lot of "way in left field" theories, and a few sound ones. The video is the only sure thing we have access to (ad nauseum) aside...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #5

    Snipped for space/context. MesaVerde, I must respectfully state that you are wrong in this assessment. Carrying a live person has a much different dynamic than carrying someone who is unconscious or dead. An incapacitated person (or dead) does not cooperate with the carrier, it requires much...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #5

    Don't go too far cath999! You are one of the few verified professionals I rely upon to strengthen my own theories (in the process of being verified as well). :)
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #5

    There have been a number of individuals on this forum who have stated the mental break as a probable situation. The individuals who you are questioning are only adding their weight to what the professionals have stated in the first thread. My own conversations with my colleagues (posted on...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #4

    So why wouldn't Elisa run to the stairwell (assuming there is one) instead of sitting in the elevator? 20 seconds is a lot of time in a fight or flight situation.
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #4

    Xavier - I am not saying it doesn't make sense, but there are a number of logic flaws. Again, putting to why she would speak to her right, when according to this theory, the individual would be to her right. Furthermore, a large percentage of people do not and would not act the way Elisa did...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #4

    FutzBucket:I've been a huge proponent of open mindedness, however do you not feel there are some huge logic jumps here? You are assuming that this person now is mentally ill. That still does not explain certain actions that Elisa committed in the elevator (ie. she looked right, as where your...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #4

    Snipped for space and context. You make interesting points, however there are a number of things that stick out to me. Making your person safe, neutralizing threats, and murder are different things. Say she did enter the wrong room and then realized she made a mistake and in her...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #4

    Not going to bother quoting all the things I've read in the past few days. Just some thoughts about where everything is going in terms of brain storming. (1) Taking out contacts while at an unknown place. Highly unlikely. Someone had mentioned that she would have done so due to smoke...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #4

    You'll have to clarify that for me unfortunately. Been awhile since I've seen that movie. I suppose what I am saying is, the video in IMHO, based on professional experience and that of my colleagues, shows that she was alone in the elevator. So if this theory considers that she was alone...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #4

    Out of curiosity, for those that feel this is connected to this Dark Water movie, how does that correlate to the video? As in how does the video connect to it, or is the video been deemed unrelated in this theory?
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    And of course, everyone is allowed to disagree. It is an open forum. There are a number of things that may play into this. For instance, Canada and US are two separate entities and the regulations governing them may differ. That could be a huge one. And more simple, as you stated, it...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    Sorry I may be misunderstanding you here. But the LE have not put out a warning because they do not believe there is an existing threat is what my friend is stating.
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    Snipped for context, thank you. This was actually a conversation during our off time. He does not have extended knowledge on this case, given his work. The entire conversation is based on what I provided, news sources, and his own analysis of the video. Keep in mind, the conversation is...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    Been awhile since I've posted because I'm back to the grind :( I've tried to catch up but everyone has posted so much I gave up. I know that a lot of you have wondered what the LE think. I brought in the opinions of my friend who worked at SOC, but that is more counter-terrorism, so I know...
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    Hotel Cecil Rooftop Access Discussion

    Great, thanks for the reply. May be useful in the future!
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    Hotel Cecil Rooftop Access Discussion

    Snipped for room and context, thank you. Welcome aboard mate. I just had one question for you, and am hoping you can give me some insight. In regards to the security in the Cecil. Can you tell me are they in house or contracted out (do you remember any insignias on their uniform?)? And what...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    Snipped for context. Hello Ugi, and welcome! I've snipped a lot of your previous post because I am only going to address one portion of it. Hope you don't mind. If you look carefully at 2:28 you will notice that as she turns away, it is her right foot/leg arcing, which causes her left...

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