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  1. PopeReal

    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    Sorry I should have been more clear. I was talking about other sites like youtube. I don't think I have seen anyone post the exact word crazy here. Thanks for your post! I just feel some people around the internet have dehumanized her to a point and shifted blame towards her. However...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    I love everyone's input. If she was in an altered state of mind I agree with ThinkHard that it just made her an easier target. I don't believe some people's assertions around the internet that drugged/psychosis/bipolar/whatever means she climbed into a water tank and drowned. We still have to...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    If she is sleepwalking, how difficult would it be for her to access the roof and water tank alone? Especially assuming she had never been up there before in her life?
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    Just want to add to this. I have seen many many words attached to Elisa (I think mostly because of the video) like psychosis, drugged, bi polar (which may be true), and even crazy. No matter what state she was in it still doesn't explain how she got access to the roof and then the water...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    Ok for now remove that as fact since no one else is reporting it. That does reduce the chances of a sexual crime. I still don't think she got up to that roof alone. The door was locked, even if the alarm wasn't working (and the hotel claims it was working). She would need an employee's key...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    I am confident we can rule out suicide or accidental death. None of it adds up. All other cases of bodies being found in water tanks that I have seen discussed were murders. Also she didn't have any clothes on which would point to a sexual crime or at least an attempted one. If she was...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    Thanks for putting that video up again, I knew I had seen that somewhere in this thread or the first one. And yes that would be the big question, how easy was it for them to get up there? Was it something she could have done alone without much trouble?
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    In that case my question would be how difficult would it be for her to access the roof alone in such a state? And from there proceed to locate a water tank and climb in. I would guess that being a guest at the hotel for the first time she would probably not have known how to access the roof...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    So if she was indeed found naked isn't that nearly always a sign of a sexual crime? I suppose she could have removed her clothes and jumped in, but where are the clothes? This just would be the strangest suicide ever. She is on a roof where she could just jump off but she decides to climb...
  10. PopeReal

    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    As I have said the video might end up meaning nothing at all, so you are exactly right in saying the important thing is to figure out how she got into the water tank. So far any examples of similar cases that I have seen discussed so far were all murder, not suicide or accidental. I believe...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    That is how I see the video also. Her actions don't seem so crazy if there was noise or someone out in the hall. And even if it turns out she was on something, that does not mean that no foul play was involved. It just seems that some tend to see a crazy or drugged person and therefor she...
  12. PopeReal

    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #1

    Joined this site because of this case. I was thinking about it all night. Watched the video several times, and at this point my guess is that she wasn't drugged or really acting that strangely. I can't hear what she is hearing, so I just can't jump to the conclusion that she is going crazy...

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