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Mama2JML you seem determined to blame JB's vaginal injuries, eroded hymen, etc. on something other than abuse. For the sake of argument, let's just say for a second that you're correct. Explain the size of her vagina being so much larger than a normal 6 yr old. IIRC, twice the size it should have been. What's your innocent explanation for that?
 
Mama2JML you seem determined to blame JB's vaginal injuries, eroded hymen, etc. on something other than abuse.
I have yet to come across evidence indicative of previous abuse, sexual in nature or otherwise.

For the sake of argument, let's just say for a second that you're correct. Explain the size of her vagina being so much larger than a normal 6 yr old. IIRC, twice the size it should have been. What's your innocent explanation for that?
I do not agree with the statements bolded. Regardless, we know JonBenet was sexually assaulted subsequent to her murder. As well, research does not support the perception you've shared above. An excerpt from the journal article Hymen: Facts & Conceptions:
"Early attempts to clarify the normal size of hymen in a pre-pubertal girl focused on the opening size. The size of the transverse hymenal opening diameter was one of the most frequently used indicators of sexual abuse. Despite the upper normal limit of the normal diameter is not clearly established, some studies suggested that a diameter greater than 4 mm is too wide parameter, indicating sexual abuse in children of all ages.28,29 However, other studies showed an upper limit of 8 mm in the absence of sexual abuse.30 Confusions about the normal values of hymenal opening diameters led other authors to focus on the size of hymenal tissue, as an alternative criterion of sexual abuse. Narrowing (or attenuation) of the inferior hymenal rim is correlated with sexual abuse.31 The amount of tissue present between the hymenal edge and vestibule inferiorly at 6 o’clock, detected in non-abused girls is at least 1.0 mm in width.32 However, some studies concluded that hymenal measurements demonstrated a high degree of overlapping between abused and non-abused girls.27,33 Furthermore, these values differ according to the child age, type of hymen, position of the examination, state of relaxation and cooperation of the female.34"
Source: http://www.thehealthj.com/december_2012/hymen_facts_and_conceptions.pdf
 
This was a very nice post. Good work.
Is this one of the links that Mama2JML gave you? If not, then I would recommend it. Medical Examination for Sexual Abuse: Have We Been Misled? http://tinyurl.com/mj7ghvs
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AK
I don’t think she did, but it is an excellent article, and it brings up something I can give a little more background on, which (believe it or not) I will eventually tie in to the Ramsey case. If you notice its date, it was written in 1989. Notice where this article fits in to what I’m about to tell you. At the risk of adding to my already reputed notoriety as a blowhard (probably well-deserved), this will be kind of long. So if you choose not to spend the time reading it, I completely understand. But I find things like this fascinating, and if you have the time, it might help understand the climate within the “professional community” at the time of JonBenet’s death.

During the 1980’s, there was a renaissance of doctors realizing that the long-held beliefs about evidence of child sexual abuse was based on flawed information. The article you linked, AK, was written during that period of time and is reflective of what was going on.

In the section of this article called “History of Sexual Abuse Examinations” it begins with Woodling and Kossoris (1981). The author (a psychiatrist) should have gone back even further to include the work of Auguste Ambroise Tardieu because he is responsible for the attitudes toward evidence of child abuse that permeated the professional community for over a century. Tardieu wrote what is probably the first medical or scientific book on child sexual abuse. He was a French doctor who became the most well-known forensic medical scientist of the 19th century. His name is still used to describe the medium-sized purpura -- Tardieu spots (or ecchymoses) -- commonly associated with strangulation. These are the same type of smaller mark (petechiae) we’re familiar with on this forum because of JonBenet’s AR. Because of his original documentation, his name is also used synonymously with “Battered Child Syndrome” as Tardieu’s Syndrome. Tardieu spent a great deal of effort studying and trying to describe the full range of sexual deviances, as well as the signs of it that medical examiners and law enforcement should look for. One of those “deviant behaviors” he was interested in was homosexuality. He described his efforts in this area as trying to determine “whether the disgusting breed of pedarasts could be physically identified for the courts.” His work described signs to look for so such behaviors could be identified. I won’t go into detail describing all the things he wrote about (you can search and probably find them on your own), but one of them was that while doing a rectal exam, if the anus spontaneously opened, it meant that the person was accustomed to (and anticipating) being sodomized. This line of thinking persisted until it was debunked a century later. Nevertheless, many physicians continued to use this and some of his other “signs” as a reliable test to determine “prior experience” of sodomy into the next century (and maybe some even still have this misconception).

Bruce Woodling (mentioned in your linked article) decided to look for this response in young boys and girls as a way of determining if they had been exposed to sexual abuse. During an exam, he would separate their cheeks and touch a certain area near the anus with a cotton swab. If he saw an immediate response, he assumed this to be evidence of prior sodomy. Woodling called this response “perianal wink reflex” (mentioned in AK’s linked article), and his testing procedure he called the “anal wink test”. He suggested it be used as one of many ways in determining possible child sexual abuse in an article published in 1981.

But back to Tardieu... He tried (admirably) to find ways to look for signs of sexual abuse in children. Unfortunately, he used what was known at the time about sexually active grown women to apply standards of what to look for in young girls. When he did (not surprisingly), he found that an alarming number of young girls had been subjected to sexual abuse. From his documentation it was concluded that incest was a widely practiced (but seldom discussed) taboo in French society. In fact, this thought was carried throughout Europe, and (this is my opinion) might have even contributed to more child abuse because of its acceptance as something commonly practiced.

Little was done to discredit Tardieu’s theories until the latter half of the 1900’s. In fact, that is when Woodling picked up much of Tardieu’s work and began applying it (and his own findings) to his practice and his court testimonies. In 1983, Woodling read about the use of a newly developed device (originally designed to check for cervical cancer) that had been used in South America to examine hymens as a way of determining if a woman was a virgin. (In Brazil, a rapist could not be convicted if it could be proven that the victim was sexually experienced, and a marriage could be annulled if the groom found that his wife had had sex with someone else prior to their marriage.) Woodling got one of these devices to examine children for signs of abuse. Women have probably seen this device (a colposcope) in their gynecologist’s examination rooms, even though they seldom use it.

Using a colposcope to examine girls’ vaginas opened up a whole new world which had been completely unseen by the naked eye. Woodling found and named many microscopic features that he interpreted as signs of abuse. Like Tardieu a century earlier, he used these misinterpreted findings to apply them to a broad spectrum of children. He also used the colposcope to measure the hymenal opening and applied the standard expressed by Hendrika Cantwell that a normal, unmolested girl’s hymenal opening should be no more than four millimeters (barely over an eighth of an inch).

Woodling’s findings were used in what became known as the “Kern County child abuse cases” (AKA, the Bakersfield sex-ring case) involving “Satanic ritual abuse” (later disproved). Despite contradicting testimony in the trial from other “experts”, Woodling convinced the judge (judging by his statements) as well as the jury that the children had been sexually abused. They convicted the defendants on 289 felony counts. Woodling’s beliefs continued to attain prominence and acceptance, in part because other professionals were reluctant to come out publicly against him in fear that they might be perceived by their colleagues or the public as defending sex abuse. And there were others convicted on the same basis in some very well-known cases. Some of those may have been guilty, but others probably -- not so much.

In 1987, the result of a study in Boston was published where known abused and non-abused girls were compared trying to differentiate between signs of abuse and natural occurrences in young girls. Regardless of which group the girls fell into, many were found to have hymen openings larger than the “4 mm” standard which had been accepted prior to that. Both groups were also found to have some of the same microtraumas identified previously by Woodling as evidence of sexual abuse.

Even two years after this study was printed, the British medical publication The Lancet described Woodling’s “anal wink” as a way for physicians to check and screen children for evidence of what they still referred to as “buggery” (the British term for male homosexuality). This resulted in hundreds of children (brought in for routine physicals) being identified as possible victims of abuse -- many of whom were taken by police from their parents because of suspected sexual abuse in the home. Some of our British forum members may remember that this reached the level of a national scandal when the government investigated possible abuses in their child protection system. It is around this period of time that some doctors (on both sides of the pond) began questioning just how reliable this system of screening for abuse was.

Enter a man named John McCann.

McCann had for several years been studying and documenting what he had found in his research. Part of that research was to offer a free medical checkup for children entering school or summer camp. When they showed up at a Fresno, CA hospital for the free exam, the parent was asked to sign a consent form to allow (as a part of it) examination for possible sexual abuse. Some people who showed up immediately declined consent and left. Others (hundreds) consented. Probably some of the photographs in the link Mama2JML provided previously were taken during this study, because I noticed that much of the information was reprinted from information provided by Dr. McCann.

In the article Anti-K linked, it mentions some of this information and it also mentions “a meeting in San Diego in January, 1988, sponsored by the Center for Child Protection of the San Diego Children's Hospital,” where “McCann reported on this research.” Some of his findings are also noted in the article and it is well worth the read. At that San Diego meeting and workshop, the conference director, Dr. David Chadwick addressed the group by saying that for some time, doctors and healthcare workers had been asking the question, “Why doesn’t someone look at normals?” (referring to children’s genitals). And with that question, he then introduced Dr. McCann.

McCann’s research over a four year period just about dispelled everything most of the doctors at the conference had been taught about what to look for as evidence of sexual abuse in children. He showed that an individual child’s hymenal opening can vary in appearance, shape, and size -- even in one exam depending on different factors. Those present also saw that while in various awkward positions for examination, almost half of the children’s anuses opened and closed with no apparent stimulus, thus disproving Tardieu’s, Woodling’s, and many others’ long-held belief that this “anal winking” was evidence of prior sexual abuse. The people who saw the presentation were shocked. And “shocked” is probably an understated word because the things they were told at this presentation that they had been using (some of them in court testimony) to prove sexual abuse could be routinely found in normal, non-abused (presumably) prepubescent girls. Those present were shown just how wrong they had been about so much of what they been taught to look for. Many (or probably most) left that conference with doubts about what they had been taught and had come to believe was evidence to look for in determining whether or not a child had been sexually abused.

In the year after his SD presentation, his findings were published, and many professionals began discounting Woodling’s previous assertions. By then another case which had begun in 1983, was going to trial: It was started because of the claims of a mother who told police her child had been sodomized by her estranged husband -- and by a teacher at a daycare who was the grandson of the school’s founder, Virginia McMartin. After first arresting Ray Buckey (the teacher) for suspicion, police released him and dismissed her claim because, in addition to the claim of sexual abuse, she also claimed that the people working at the daycare had engaged in sex with animals, and that it was all associated with Satanic rituals where sometimes participants would levitate themselves in front of the children and then fly around the room. (BTW, police were never able to confirm that anyone at the daycare could fly through the air at will.)

But then (I suppose just to be thorough in their investigation) they and the DA’s office sent out a letter to other parents. The text of the letter can be found here and linked at the end of this post. Imagine yourself a parent who received this letter (if you haven’t read it -- you should) about your child from the local PD and DA. Needless to say, it created an instant panic in the mind of every parent who received it (or who eventually heard about it). Hundreds of children were referred to and interviewed at a clinic (Children’s Institute International) where those who worked there developed questionable techniques for garnering “repressed memories” from children who at first denied any of the allegations. Eventually, many (or most) of the children began “remembering” things that had never happened. The “memories” of these children were then bolstered and confirmed by the physical examinations performed on them by a USC classmate and colleague of Woodling’s, Dr. Astrid Heger. In fact, Woodling personally supervised and assisted Heger on the first examinations as well as many more of the McMartin students. Until this case had surfaced, Heger had never even used a colposcope, but she and Woodling used it to determine that about 80% of the children had been sexually abused (supposedly confirming the “repressed memories” brought out by the people at CII). Though she was unknown until the McMartin case, Heger was suddenly the media darling, getting requests to appear as a guest on numerous broadcasts. Despite never having been called to testify in a sexual abuse case before this, she was suddenly inundated with requests by prosecutors all over the country to testify in other trials. She was invited to give talks and training to other professionals, and to participate in peer reviews of material on the subject.

By the time the McMartin Preschool scandal reached a preliminary hearing in court (which lasted one year and eight months), Dr. McCann’s work was gaining acceptance within the profession, and Dr. Woodling’s theories were generally beginning to be dismissed. But he and Dr. Heger had both been relied upon from their earlier work on the case for much of what was presented in court against the seven accused defendants. Even though Heger had changed (because of McCann’s work) her public positions on much of what she had earlier professed, she continued to insist in testimony that what she had found earlier was still correct. Her desperation to save her own reputation resulted in some ridiculous statements in court, where she continued to defend her conclusions despite having learned afterwards that they were incorrect.

To counter the prosecution’s case, the defense wanted to have McCann testify about his findings. McCann was to show that the alleged physical evidence of sexual abuse presented by the prosecution was what could be expected to be found within the general population of normal children who had never been abused. It would have been an epic showdown (IMO) if he had been allowed to testify, but he was unable to be present when he was scheduled (I’m not sure why). The defense asked for a continuance for a few weeks until its expert witness (McCann) could be there, but the judge would not grant it and “deemed” the defense to have rested its case. Judge Aviva K. Bobb ruled for the criminal case to proceed.

Afterwards, a new DA who had inherited the case decided that the case against five of the seven defendants was “incredibly weak” and dropped all charges against them. The other two (mother and son) were tried in what turned out to be the longest (seven years) and most expensive (15 million dollars) criminal trial in U.S. history. It ended up with no convictions (although much of it is still debated).

The woman who originally claimed that her son had been sexually abused (Judy Johnson) was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and hospitalized. She died in 1986 (before the prelim was completed) from complications associated with alcoholism. Heger has since changed many of her views and “reformed” her image. She is now well-accepted within the professional community. Woodling refused to admit his early findings were in error and is seldom ever called on to testify in court. McCann’s work is accepted worldwide and has probably saved many innocent people from being convicted of horrible crimes, as well as it has helped convict many guilty. I (otg) believe there is a special place in Hell for people who commit this kind of horrible crime against innocent children. But I also believe that their special place is right next to the people who falsely accuse others of it -- knowing that it is wrong -- only to bolster their own reputations, inflate their egos, or pad their pocketbooks.

In 1994, six years after his first ground-breaking presentation at the same conference, Dr. McCann made another presentation. In it, he showed photos of a four-year-old girl’s genitals and asked the attendees to raise their hands if they could see signs of sexual abuse in the photos. After some began raising their hands, McCann stated that in his opinion, it was impossible to diagnose with any confidence. This demonstrated just how open to interpretation such evidence of abuse was. It also showed his reluctance to declare that a child had been abused without conclusive evidence to make his determination.

So the reason in my telling this to everyone who has had the patience and interest to read it all is twofold. First, it’s to show why I have no problem with posters who seriously question our opinions and beliefs. I think it’s healthy to have to defend what we believe, if we truly believe it. If we don’t or can’t, our belief is not worth defending. But the other reason is to show why I have such a great deal of respect for Dr. McCann, and confidence in what his opinion is in JonBenet’s case. When you read all the different “expert” opinions and how much they can disagree with one another, it’s easy to want to dismiss them all (especially when they say something stupid along with something brilliant). But when you read the opinion of Dr. John McCann, pay close attention. It was McCann who turned the medical community around to prevent normal children from being diagnosed as victims of sexual abuse. If he states that he sees evidence of sexual abuse in the microscopic slide evidence and photos taken of JonBenet (all of which we have not seen), I tend to believe him.



Sources and Resources:

Much of this information comes from the book, Satan's Silence: Ritual Abuse and the Making of a Modern American Witch Hunt, (Debbie Nathan, Michael Snedeker)
Also, Anatomy of the McMartin Child Molestation Case (Edgar W. Butler)
http://en.wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Auguste_Ambroise_Tardieu
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mcmartin/lettertoparents.html
http://en.wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial
http://en.wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Children's_Institute_International
http://www.nytimes.com/1985/12/27/us/judge-s-ruling-stops-defense-in-abuse-case.html
http://www.helfersociety.org/john-mccann
http://www2.aap.org/sections/childabuseneglect/OutstandingServiceRecipients.cfm
http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/jpgy/article/S0932-8610(12)80002-8/abstract

CAUTION: This link to an article by Dr. John McCann contains very graphic photos:
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/119/5/e1094.full
 
I don’t think she did, but it is an excellent article, and it brings up something I can give a little more background on, which (believe it or not) I will eventually tie in to the Ramsey case. If you notice its date, it was written in 1989. Notice where this article fits in to what I’m about to tell you. At the risk of adding to my already reputed notoriety as a blowhard (probably well-deserved), this will be kind of long. So if you choose not to spend the time reading it, I completely understand. But I find things like this fascinating, and if you have the time, it might help understand the climate within the “professional community” at the time of JonBenet’s death.

During the 1980’s, there was a renaissance of doctors realizing that the long-held beliefs about evidence of child sexual abuse was based on flawed information. The article you linked, AK, was written during that period of time and is reflective of what was going on.

In the section of this article called “History of Sexual Abuse Examinations” it begins with Woodling and Kossoris (1981). The author (a psychiatrist) should have gone back even further to include the work of Auguste Ambroise Tardieu because he is responsible for the attitudes toward evidence of child abuse that permeated the professional community for over a century. Tardieu wrote what is probably the first medical or scientific book on child sexual abuse. He was a French doctor who became the most well-known forensic medical scientist of the 19th century. His name is still used to describe the medium-sized purpura -- Tardieu spots (or ecchymoses) -- commonly associated with strangulation. These are the same type of smaller mark (petechiae) we’re familiar with on this forum because of JonBenet’s AR. Because of his original documentation, his name is also used synonymously with “Battered Child Syndrome” as Tardieu’s Syndrome. Tardieu spent a great deal of effort studying and trying to describe the full range of sexual deviances, as well as the signs of it that medical examiners and law enforcement should look for. One of those “deviant behaviors” he was interested in was homosexuality. He described his efforts in this area as trying to determine “whether the disgusting breed of pedarasts could be physically identified for the courts.” His work described signs to look for so such behaviors could be identified. I won’t go into detail describing all the things he wrote about (you can search and probably find them on your own), but one of them was that while doing a rectal exam, if the anus spontaneously opened, it meant that the person was accustomed to (and anticipating) being sodomized. This line of thinking persisted until it was debunked a century later. Nevertheless, many physicians continued to use this and some of his other “signs” as a reliable test to determine “prior experience” of sodomy into the next century (and maybe some even still have this misconception).

Bruce Woodling (mentioned in your linked article) decided to look for this response in young boys and girls as a way of determining if they had been exposed to sexual abuse. During an exam, he would separate their cheeks and touch a certain area near the anus with a cotton swab. If he saw an immediate response, he assumed this to be evidence of prior sodomy. Woodling called this response “perianal wink reflex” (mentioned in AK’s linked article), and his testing procedure he called the “anal wink test”. He suggested it be used as one of many ways in determining possible child sexual abuse in an article published in 1981.

But back to Tardieu... He tried (admirably) to find ways to look for signs of sexual abuse in children. Unfortunately, he used what was known at the time about sexually active grown women to apply standards of what to look for in young girls. When he did (not surprisingly), he found that an alarming number of young girls had been subjected to sexual abuse. From his documentation it was concluded that incest was a widely practiced (but seldom discussed) taboo in French society. In fact, this thought was carried throughout Europe, and (this is my opinion) might have even contributed to more child abuse because of its acceptance as something commonly practiced.

Little was done to discredit Tardieu’s theories until the latter half of the 1900’s. In fact, that is when Woodling picked up much of Tardieu’s work and began applying it (and his own findings) to his practice and his court testimonies. In 1983, Woodling read about the use of a newly developed device (originally designed to check for cervical cancer) that had been used in South America to examine hymens as a way of determining if a woman was a virgin. (In Brazil, a rapist could not be convicted if it could be proven that the victim was sexually experienced, and a marriage could be annulled if the groom found that his wife had had sex with someone else prior to their marriage.) Woodling got one of these devices to examine children for signs of abuse. Women have probably seen this device (a colposcope) in their gynecologist’s examination rooms, even though they seldom use it.

Using a colposcope to examine girls’ vaginas opened up a whole new world which had been completely unseen by the naked eye. Woodling found and named many microscopic features that he interpreted as signs of abuse. Like Tardieu a century earlier, he used these misinterpreted findings to apply them to a broad spectrum of children. He also used the colposcope to measure the hymenal opening and applied the standard expressed by Hendrika Cantwell that a normal, unmolested girl’s hymenal opening should be no more than four millimeters (barely over an eighth of an inch).

Woodling’s findings were used in what became known as the “Kern County child abuse cases” (AKA, the Bakersfield sex-ring case) involving “Satanic ritual abuse” (later disproved). Despite contradicting testimony in the trial from other “experts”, Woodling convinced the judge (judging by his statements) as well as the jury that the children had been sexually abused. They convicted the defendants on 289 felony counts. Woodling’s beliefs continued to attain prominence and acceptance, in part because other professionals were reluctant to come out publicly against him in fear that they might be perceived by their colleagues or the public as defending sex abuse. And there were others convicted on the same basis in some very well-known cases. Some of those may have been guilty, but others probably -- not so much.

In 1987, the result of a study in Boston was published where known abused and non-abused girls were compared trying to differentiate between signs of abuse and natural occurrences in young girls. Regardless of which group the girls fell into, many were found to have hymen openings larger than the “4 mm” standard which had been accepted prior to that. Both groups were also found to have some of the same microtraumas identified previously by Woodling as evidence of sexual abuse.

Even two years after this study was printed, the British medical publication The Lancet described Woodling’s “anal wink” as a way for physicians to check and screen children for evidence of what they still referred to as “buggery” (the British term for male homosexuality). This resulted in hundreds of children (brought in for routine physicals) being identified as possible victims of abuse -- many of whom were taken by police from their parents because of suspected sexual abuse in the home. Some of our British forum members may remember that this reached the level of a national scandal when the government investigated possible abuses in their child protection system. It is around this period of time that some doctors (on both sides of the pond) began questioning just how reliable this system of screening for abuse was.

Enter a man named John McCann.

McCann had for several years been studying and documenting what he had found in his research. Part of that research was to offer a free medical checkup for children entering school or summer camp. When they showed up at a Fresno, CA hospital for the free exam, the parent was asked to sign a consent form to allow (as a part of it) examination for possible sexual abuse. Some people who showed up immediately declined consent and left. Others (hundreds) consented. Probably some of the photographs in the link Mama2JML provided previously were taken during this study, because I noticed that much of the information was reprinted from information provided by Dr. McCann.

In the article Anti-K linked, it mentions some of this information and it also mentions “a meeting in San Diego in January, 1988, sponsored by the Center for Child Protection of the San Diego Children's Hospital,” where “McCann reported on this research.” Some of his findings are also noted in the article and it is well worth the read. At that San Diego meeting and workshop, the conference director, Dr. David Chadwick addressed the group by saying that for some time, doctors and healthcare workers had been asking the question, “Why doesn’t someone look at normals?” (referring to children’s genitals). And with that question, he then introduced Dr. McCann.

McCann’s research over a four year period just about dispelled everything most of the doctors at the conference had been taught about what to look for as evidence of sexual abuse in children. He showed that an individual child’s hymenal opening can vary in appearance, shape, and size -- even in one exam depending on different factors. Those present also saw that while in various awkward positions for examination, almost half of the children’s anuses opened and closed with no apparent stimulus, thus disproving Tardieu’s, Woodling’s, and many others’ long-held belief that this “anal winking” was evidence of prior sexual abuse. The people who saw the presentation were shocked. And “shocked” is probably an understated word because the things they were told at this presentation that they had been using (some of them in court testimony) to prove sexual abuse could be routinely found in normal, non-abused (presumably) prepubescent girls. Those present were shown just how wrong they had been about so much of what they been taught to look for. Many (or probably most) left that conference with doubts about what they had been taught and had come to believe was evidence to look for in determining whether or not a child had been sexually abused.

In the year after his SD presentation, his findings were published, and many professionals began discounting Woodling’s previous assertions. By then another case which had begun in 1983, was going to trial: It was started because of the claims of a mother who told police her child had been sodomized by her estranged husband -- and by a teacher at a daycare who was the grandson of the school’s founder, Virginia McMartin. After first arresting Ray Buckey (the teacher) for suspicion, police released him and dismissed her claim because, in addition to the claim of sexual abuse, she also claimed that the people working at the daycare had engaged in sex with animals, and that it was all associated with Satanic rituals where sometimes participants would levitate themselves in front of the children and then fly around the room. (BTW, police were never able to confirm that anyone at the daycare could fly through the air at will.)

But then (I suppose just to be thorough in their investigation) they and the DA’s office sent out a letter to other parents. The text of the letter can be found here and linked at the end of this post. Imagine yourself a parent who received this letter (if you haven’t read it -- you should) about your child from the local PD and DA. Needless to say, it created an instant panic in the mind of every parent who received it (or who eventually heard about it). Hundreds of children were referred to and interviewed at a clinic (Children’s Institute International) where those who worked there developed questionable techniques for garnering “repressed memories” from children who at first denied any of the allegations. Eventually, many (or most) of the children began “remembering” things that had never happened. The “memories” of these children were then bolstered and confirmed by the physical examinations performed on them by a USC classmate and colleague of Woodling’s, Dr. Astrid Heger. In fact, Woodling personally supervised and assisted Heger on the first examinations as well as many more of the McMartin students. Until this case had surfaced, Heger had never even used a colposcope, but she and Woodling used it to determine that about 80% of the children had been sexually abused (supposedly confirming the “repressed memories” brought out by the people at CII). Though she was unknown until the McMartin case, Heger was suddenly the media darling, getting requests to appear as a guest on numerous broadcasts. Despite never having been called to testify in a sexual abuse case before this, she was suddenly inundated with requests by prosecutors all over the country to testify in other trials. She was invited to give talks and training to other professionals, and to participate in peer reviews of material on the subject.

By the time the McMartin Preschool scandal reached a preliminary hearing in court (which lasted one year and eight months), Dr. McCann’s work was gaining acceptance within the profession, and Dr. Woodling’s theories were generally beginning to be dismissed. But he and Dr. Heger had both been relied upon from their earlier work on the case for much of what was presented in court against the seven accused defendants. Even though Heger had changed (because of McCann’s work) her public positions on much of what she had earlier professed, she continued to insist in testimony that what she had found earlier was still correct. Her desperation to save her own reputation resulted in some ridiculous statements in court, where she continued to defend her conclusions despite having learned afterwards that they were incorrect.

To counter the prosecution’s case, the defense wanted to have McCann testify about his findings. McCann was to show that the alleged physical evidence of sexual abuse presented by the prosecution was what could be expected to be found within the general population of normal children who had never been abused. It would have been an epic showdown (IMO) if he had been allowed to testify, but he was unable to be present when he was scheduled (I’m not sure why). The defense asked for a continuance for a few weeks until its expert witness (McCann) could be there, but the judge would not grant it and “deemed” the defense to have rested its case. Judge Aviva K. Bobb ruled for the criminal case to proceed.

Afterwards, a new DA who had inherited the case decided that the case against five of the seven defendants was “incredibly weak” and dropped all charges against them. The other two (mother and son) were tried in what turned out to be the longest (seven years) and most expensive (15 million dollars) criminal trial in U.S. history. It ended up with no convictions (although much of it is still debated).

The woman who originally claimed that her son had been sexually abused (Judy Johnson) was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and hospitalized. She died in 1986 (before the prelim was completed) from complications associated with alcoholism. Heger has since changed many of her views and “reformed” her image. She is now well-accepted within the professional community. Woodling refused to admit his early findings were in error and is seldom ever called on to testify in court. McCann’s work is accepted worldwide and has probably saved many innocent people from being convicted of horrible crimes, as well as it has helped convict many guilty. I (otg) believe there is a special place in Hell for people who commit this kind of horrible crime against innocent children. But I also believe that their special place is right next to the people who falsely accuse others of it -- knowing that it is wrong -- only to bolster their own reputations, inflate their egos, or pad their pocketbooks.

In 1994, six years after his first ground-breaking presentation at the same conference, Dr. McCann made another presentation. In it, he showed photos of a four-year-old girl’s genitals and asked the attendees to raise their hands if they could see signs of sexual abuse in the photos. After some began raising their hands, McCann stated that in his opinion, it was impossible to diagnose with any confidence. This demonstrated just how open to interpretation such evidence of abuse was. It also showed his reluctance to declare that a child had been abused without conclusive evidence to make his determination.

So the reason in my telling this to everyone who has had the patience and interest to read it all is twofold. First, it’s to show why I have no problem with posters who seriously question our opinions and beliefs. I think it’s healthy to have to defend what we believe, if we truly believe it. If we don’t or can’t, our belief is not worth defending. But the other reason is to show why I have such a great deal of respect for Dr. McCann, and confidence in what his opinion is in JonBenet’s case. When you read all the different “expert” opinions and how much they can disagree with one another, it’s easy to want to dismiss them all (especially when they say something stupid along with something brilliant). But when you read the opinion of Dr. John McCann, pay close attention. It was McCann who turned the medical community around to prevent normal children from being diagnosed as victims of sexual abuse. If he states that he sees evidence of sexual abuse in the microscopic slide evidence and photos taken of JonBenet (all of which we have not seen), I tend to believe him.



Sources and Resources:

Much of this information comes from the book, Satan's Silence: Ritual Abuse and the Making of a Modern American Witch Hunt, (Debbie Nathan, Michael Snedeker)
Also, Anatomy of the McMartin Child Molestation Case (Edgar W. Butler)
http://en.wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Auguste_Ambroise_Tardieu
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mcmartin/lettertoparents.html
http://en.wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial
http://en.wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Children's_Institute_International
http://www.nytimes.com/1985/12/27/us/judge-s-ruling-stops-defense-in-abuse-case.html
http://www.helfersociety.org/john-mccann
http://www2.aap.org/sections/childabuseneglect/OutstandingServiceRecipients.cfm
http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/jpgy/article/S0932-8610(12)80002-8/abstract

CAUTION: This link to an article by Dr. John McCann contains very graphic photos:
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/119/5/e1094.full
:clap: :clap: OTG, your research into this deserves so much more than a thank you post. As I suspected, and you notated, there are reasons McCann is regarded so highly in this field.
 
Another round of applause for otg.

:clap::gthanks::clap:
 
I don't think there was ever a plan by anyone to kill JB. I think the head blow was done either deliberately or accidentally in a fit of rage and the rest was staging.


I agree, no matter how much of a nut Patsy may have been, I just don't see premeditation.
 
otg, are McCann's findings, referenced in the Bonita Papers, corroborated?
 
I agree, no matter how much of a nut Patsy may have been, I just don't see premeditation.

Agree. I think the only thing that could have been premeditated was the sexual molestation, and even that may have been the result of opportunity. I think the head bash or strangulation, which ever came first, was a knee-jerk reaction to silence JBR.
 
otg, are McCann's findings, referenced in the Bonita Papers, corroborated?
I think it would depend on a person's definition of the word "corroborated". We all should know the background and debate over the Bonita Papers. When they were written, they were based on the police files that existed at the time, because those files had been given to the three attorneys who were working pro bono for the BPD. Those lawyers were Daniel Hoffman, Robert Miller, and Richard Baer. Hoffman's paralegal secretary (Bonita Sauer) copied those files with (supposedly) the intent of putting them together for a book when all the dust settled. Unfortunately for her, she shared those files with some of her relatives, and one of them (a nephew) saw an opportunity for himself and sold copies of those files to National Enquirer. Its editor, Don Gentile, then used them to release a book (JonBenet, the Police Files). So no one can say that the Bonita Papers are the ultimate source for information today, because some of the things police knew (or thought they knew) at the time may have changed since their writing (1999). But much of the information contained in them has since been confirmed by other media sources, and some of it has been overshadowed by additional evidence that wasn't known at the time.

But to your specific question about Dr. McCann's findings and the Bonita Papers... If I remember correctly (and there's no guarantee of that), there were references to his findings (as well as to the opinions of other "experts") printed in newspaper and magazine articles at the time, but none of them went into the details of what specifically he used to make his determination as much as what was written in the Bonita Papers. What was noted there has been quoted over and over again, so I would think that if any of it was wrong, there would have been a public disavowal of the information -- either by him, by the DA's office, by Dr. Meyer, or by the BPD.

Additionally, I would point out that what was written there (in the BP) doesn't sound like anything someone would just be able to make up. It states specific things that were found (that the average person wouldn't know about) which he points out were the reasons for his conclusions. Much of that you can get a better understanding of by reading some of the articles linked by you, me, and others here about what he looks at to determine different types of sexual abuse.

 
I'm not too sold on the ae strangulation game being played between JB and BR. I just don't see that as being known to a 6 and 9 year old, much less back in 1996. I just saw that he stated epithelial erosion of the vagina as an indicator of sexual abuse. He could be right with his findings but just wrong with his theory.

While I'm also not sold on this theory, I will tell you that the "strangulation" game (or the pass-out game) is not a recent invention. I can't say how far back it actually goes, but I can tell you that my friends and I played it as early as 1971 (we were 8 years old then). We learned it from my friend's older sister. We didn't actually "strangle", (I'm not inclined to give instructions on how it was done) but it did involve cutting off your air supply. You flat out fainted. No kidding, out cold. Granted, the method might have changed over time, but the concept and results were identical, and it was known to this 8 year old way back in 1971.
 
Patsy dressed JonBenet up like Marilyn Monroe. At JonBenet's funeral, Patsy tried to channel Jackie Kennedy. There are theories that Patsy killed JonBenet because she was jealous, maybe caught John molesting JonBenet, thought of her as "competition" instead of a victim. Kind of like an alternative history. This time, Jackie kills Marilyn...
 
Patsy dressed JonBenet up like Marilyn Monroe. At JonBenet's funeral, Patsy tried to channel Jackie Kennedy. There are theories that Patsy killed JonBenet because she was jealous, maybe caught John molesting JonBenet, thought of her as "competition" instead of a victim. Kind of like an alternative history. This time, Jackie kills Marilyn...


Patsy Ramsey had her daughter's body prepared to wear a white sleeveless dress with a sequined bodice that she purchased recently at a pageant from another pageant mom.

But before selecting this particular white dress for JonBenet's burial, she asked John if JonBenet's arms were battered and bruised.

John Ramsey spoke to detectives on Dec 27. When the detectives arrived at the meeting, John was flanked by two attorneys. The meeting lasted forty minutes. Never once did John Ramsey ask how his daughter died, inquire about the autopsy results, nor ask any questions about his daughter's murder.

ST PB 53
(Steve Thomas, JonBenet: Inside the Ramsey Murder Investigation; Paperback, page 53)
 
Patsy dressed JonBenet up like Marilyn Monroe. At JonBenet's funeral, Patsy tried to channel Jackie Kennedy. There are theories that Patsy killed JonBenet because she was jealous, maybe caught John molesting JonBenet, thought of her as "competition" instead of a victim. Kind of like an alternative history. This time, Jackie kills Marilyn...
:goodpost:
Wow Eileen! While I'm not necessarily a PDI, I give you an A+ for putting that one together! Very interesting theory, and quite thought provoking!
 
DOI Page 146

"Like a hailstorm continuously pelting our house, another blow hit Patsy and me when a University of Colorado art student created a collage of blown-up pictures of JonBenet under the heading, "Daddy's Little Hooker."

In the entry hall of the Sibell Wolle Fine Arts Building is a display area used for student work. Usually senior projects or personal art exhibits are posted there. This art student took JonBenet's picture from a national magazine cover, as well as other reproductions of her that appeared in a multitude of tabloids, enlarged them, and assembled the pictures in a collage that included lots of scribbled epitaphs. It created a grotesque portrayal of JonBenet.

The very large display ran the length of the hall in the Fine Arts Building. The newspapers rushed to photograph the distasteful display, and the story about the collage made national television news. It hurt us so deeply to see our daughter portrayed in this horrible manner. With John Andrew as a student at CU, the damage seemed even more horrendous.

A number of students had the same offended reaction and tore much of the display down, but the University of Colorado would not act. A university spokesman responded publicly with the explanation that the student was expressing free speech and "artistic integrity," and that the university could not ask him to remove his work. Because he was an art student, the whole sickening display could go back up again in the name of free speech. We were distraught that such an offensive portrayal of our child had been erected in the fist place, and on top of that, the faculty seemed to find the work acceptable. I later heard that the exhibit finally came down only because university officials feared that the use of previously copyrighted photographs could end up in a legal confrontation. I received a particularly hard letter from a man in Denver during all this which said, "If you're any kind of father, you'll tear that down." I had wanted desperately to destroy the grotesque exhibit myself, but knew that would be the media spectacle of the decade.

I decided that maybe the best thing I might do was to write the young man a letter and try to let him know how his cruel and heartless exhibit had

DOI Page 202

"John and I were both amazed at the number of transients who lived in close proximity to our Boulder home. We had learned that the house across the alley was occupied by a house-sitter during that Christmas. This man disappeared within days after the twenty-sixth. Who was he? Why had he left so quickly? The young CU art student who had created the "Daddy's Little Hooker" display had once lived only four doors to the south of us in a student rental house for a period of time. Unfortunately, we were realizing how transient our University Hill neighborhood really was. Some neighbors rented their extra rooms and basements to students and others who moved in and out frequently. We could only hope the police were paying close attention."

http://www.acandyrose.com/s-paul-hidalgo.htm

Dear Paul,​

I am writing this letter to tell you I am deeply hurt by how you have portrayed my daughter, JonBenét. We, as a family, have lost one of the most precious things in our lives, and it is difficult to imagine that we will ever have joy in our lives again.​


What you have incorrectly portrayed is a very small part of JonBenét's life. It was an activity that she and her mother enjoyed doing together, and she was a very competitive spirit. There was much more to her life. She was religious. Did very well in school. Loved to go to the beach, and all the other things a normal six-year-old normally enjoys.​

You are young, and I can forgive you for what you have done.​

Sincerely yours,​
John B. Ramsey​

Transcribed from A Mother Gone Bad; Dr. Andrew Hodges, p 115


by Joyce Carol Oates:

The indefatigable Hodges also psychoanalyzes Patsy Ramsey's pathetic Christmas newsletter ("Had there been no birth of Christ, there would be no hope of eternal life, and hence, no hope of ever being with our loved ones again"). Hodges is more convincing in discussing JonBenét Ramsey's "regressing" toilet training, a probable sign of the child's stress as a beauty-pageant contestant. How at odds with the seeming precocity of JonBenét's public performances and her tabloid image, this compulsive bed-wetting and self-soiling; enuresis (bed-wetting) isn't uncommon in some six-year-olds, but encopresis (defecation) is uncommon, a symptom of "significant disturbance both within the child and within the family," according to Hodges.

http://www.usfca.edu/jco/mysteryofjonbenetramsey/

Note: Patsy Ramsey once played on a women's softball team called "Moms Gone Bad."

Patsy was a perfectionist who expected the same perfectionism in others. She did not tolerate the bed wetting very well. It annoyed her so much that she stripped JBs bed linens and had them in the laundry before the housekeeper arrived in the mornings. Surely she detested the unforgettable odor and wanted no evidence of her perfect daughter's wetting or soiling. PR was so ashamed of the encopresis that she did not mention it on any of the extraordinary amount of visits to Dr. Beuf's office.

OMO
 
Dear Paul,

I am writing this letter to tell you I am deeply hurt by how you have portrayed my daughter, JonBenét. We, as a family, have lost one of the most precious things in our lives, and it is difficult to imagine that we will ever have joy in our lives again.

What you have incorrectly portrayed is a very small part of JonBenét's life. It was an activity that she and her mother enjoyed doing together, and she was a very competitive spirit. There was much more to her life. She was religious. Did very well in school. Loved to go to the beach, and all the other things a normal six-year-old normally enjoys.

You are young, and I can forgive you for what you have done.

Sincerely yours,

John B. Ramsey

Is it me, or are there some similarities between this letter and the ransom note.
 
The short, rapid-fire sentences caught my attention:

Ransom note snippet:
"Speaking to anyone about your situation, such as police or F.B.I. will result in your daughter being beheaded. If we catch you talking to a stray dog, she dies. If you alert bank authorities, she dies. If the money is in way marked or tampered with, she dies. You can try to deceive us, but be warned we are familiar with law enforcement countermeasures and tactics."

John's letter snippet:
"What you have incorrectly portrayed is a very small part of JonBenét's life. It was an activity that she and her mother enjoyed doing together, and she was a very competitive spirit. There was much more to her life. She was religious. Did very well in school. Loved to go to the beach, and all the other things a normal six-year-old normally enjoys."


In each, compound sentence...three short sentences...long compound sentence.

Huh.
 
Some things I see in John's letter:

What prompted John to respond to the artist's February 1997 mural named "Daddy's Little Hooker"? What about that artistic display touched a raw nerve with John?

It was John, not Paul, who degraded JonBenét when he contributed monetarily and when he attended the beauty pageant competitions he showed his support but John tries to accuse Paul of degrading his daughter.

"A small part of her life...an activity that she and her mother enjoyed doing together, and she was a very competitive spirit."

The pageants where JB won all of those shiny trophies was not a small part of her life. Who was JonBenét really competing with and for whom and why? Is that what she was doing on December 26?

"She was religious." Religious is not exactly a term frequently used to describe a six-year-old child's faith.

Then, John denies her importance when he drops her name altogether. "Did very well in school"

Again, he does not even bother giving her a name. "Loved to go to the beach, and all the other things a normal six-year-old normally enjoys."

People wear bathing suits to the beach. Recall how well JonBenét learned how to remove a cover-up from around her waist to reveal her swimsuit during one of the pageants? She was wearing "slave" sandals with it.

Normal. Normally. John was being sure to stress how normal JonBenét was without being personal. Didn't she like to hula hoop, sing songs and skip?

"You are young" Pedophiles like young things.

Dear Paul,
I am writing this letter to tell you I am deeply hurt by how you have portrayed my daughter, JonBenét. We, as a family, have lost one of the most precious things in our lives, and it is difficult to imagine that we will ever have joy in our lives again.
What you have incorrectly portrayed is a very small part of JonBenét's life. It was an activity that she and her mother enjoyed doing together, and she was a very competitive spirit. There was much more to her life. She was religious. Did very well in school. Loved to go to the beach, and all the other things a normal six-year-old normally enjoys.
You are young, and I can forgive you for what you have done.
Sincerely yours,
John B. Ramsey​

OMO
 
I believe JBR's death was intentional and not accidental. I think it was a matter of necessity that she die, in the mind of the killer. Why would someone think it necessary to kill a six year old girl? Because of what she knew and would undoubtedly tell if she were allowed to live. She had to die to protect a secret. This secret was more important than JB's life, even to her parents.

I know this is my own thread but I just have to comment here now that I think I understand much more about this. What I said when I made this original post is what I "felt" was right, although I did not know I was right. Now things have fallen into place and I can confidently say that I was correct in what I wrote here, although I did not know why. Let me clarify some things now. The head bash itself was accidental in nature. It was not intended for JBR to be hit so hard that it would crack her entire skull open but that is what happened. The head bash itself did not kill JBR, and had she been rushed to a hospital she might possibly have been saved. No, what killed JBR is having the rope tied very tightly around her neck afterward, strangling her to death. In the mind of the killer it was necessity that she die because if questioned by police about the incident she could and probably would reveal what had been going on at the parties (plural). She could not even go to the hospital for someone to see her condition and wonder how she got this way. To protect their secrets, she had to die.
 

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