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CHARTS & CHART DISCUSSIONS

CONFIRMED CORRECT Time Natal chart Haleigh 2:16am/Gainesville, FL 8/17/2003
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Haleigh Natal Chart/Sunrise & Last Seen Discussion
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Haleigh Natal Chart/ammended/6:50a.m.
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Haleigh Natal Chart/sunrise Gainesville,FL http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Haleigh Cummings/HaleighCummingsNATALSunrise.gif

Last Seen Chart 10:00p.m.2/9/09 [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3294734&postcount=13"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haleigh Cummings #1[/ame]

Moonrise Chart 6:32p.m. 2/9/09 & Discussion
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5:00-5:30p.m. Friends Visit 2/9/09 Discussion [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3304727&postcount=120"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haleigh Cummings #1[/ame]

5:00-5:30p.m. Chart http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Haleigh Cummings/VisitorsinHouse020909.gif

5:10p.m. Chart & Discussion -http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3329711&postcount=643
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7:00p.m. GrG-Ma Porch-Chart&Discussion [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3334972&postcount=707"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haleigh Cummings #1[/ame]


Hours Before911: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3322430&postcount=550"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haleigh Cummings #1[/ame]


911 Police Report http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/ima.../13/putnam.pdf

911 Call Chart & Discussion-certain aspects [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3301927&postcount=88"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haleigh Cummings #1[/ame]

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Add'l Discussion [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3311670&postcount=292"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haleigh Cummings #1[/ame]
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11th &12H.Who? [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3321428&postcount=530"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haleigh Cummings #1[/ame]
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A 2nd LOOK one Month since 2/9 - 2/10/09
Haleigh Cummings Secondary Progressions for 2-10-09 (P2)
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Haleigh Cummings Tertiary Progressions for 2-10-09 (P3)
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Tri-Wheel showing Haleigh Cummings NATAL as Inner; Tertiary Progs as Middle; 911 Call to LE as Outer.
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Discussions - revisit one Month later
Part 1 [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3424979&postcount=182"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haliegh Cummings #3[/ame]


Part 2 [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3425397&postcount=185"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haliegh Cummings #3[/ame]


part 3 [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3425997&postcount=189"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haliegh Cummings #3[/ame]


Part 4 [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3427718&postcount=197"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haliegh Cummings #3[/ame]


Add'l discussions /one Month later
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RonC Natal Chart/sunrise & Discussion
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RonC 5th & 11th H.-effect children [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3306714&postcount=153"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haleigh Cummings #1[/ame]
http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/q...talSunrise.gif


Misty C. Natal/sunrise Lansing MIchigan http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Haleigh Cummings/MistyCroslinNatalSunrise.gif

Discussion: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3312179&postcount=320"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haleigh Cummings #1[/ame]


Crystal S-bioMom Natal Chart/sunrise Satsuma http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/...mings/CrystalSheffieldRelocatedNatalSunri.gif

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Immediate Family charts: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3307979&postcount=209"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haleigh Cummings #1[/ame]


9:30a.m. Search 2/13/09 [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3306714&postcount=153"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haleigh Cummings #1[/ame]


Horary - The Truth of The Matter-Part 1- [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3310833&postcount=267"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haleigh Cummings #1[/ame]

Horary - The Truth of the Matter -Part 2 [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3311022&postcount=274"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haleigh Cummings #1[/ame]


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SNODGRASS brief discussion [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3395720&postcount=33"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haliegh Cummings #3[/ame]

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Continued throughout this Thread#3- discussions and charts:
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Jan. 26th has significance:[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3397981&postcount=53"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haliegh Cummings #3[/ame]


Wound to Haleigh: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3423574&postcount=175"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haliegh Cummings #3[/ame]


Marriage Chart [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3448987&postcount=283"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haliegh Cummings #3[/ame]


Could revenge show in chart:[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3453681&postcount=305"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haliegh Cummings #3[/ame]


Abuse of Ron,Jr.?:[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3467350&postcount=329"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haliegh Cummings #3[/ame]


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Amber B:[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3637990&postcount=534"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haliegh Cummings #3[/ame]
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Cousin Joe O.: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3347162&postcount=132"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Haliegh Cummings #2[/ame]
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I was just wondering about Beck's comment on the other thread as far as what a GPS home zone would be considered. I mean is it out of a zip code area?

I found a couple of things about the GPS tracking of offenders, not specifically pertaining to Florida though. It said there is an 'inclusion zone' and an 'exclusion zone' programmed into the device, so LE is alerted if he is in the inclusion zone when he's supposed to be (home, work, PO meetings), or if he goes into the 'NO NO' zone like near the victim's home, parks, schools, etc.

I think we need to keep searching though to see if we can find out what the radius is for the acceptable 'home zone' inclusion area for Florida (or for him). It would definitely show whether he had the opportunity to commit the crime.

When I study this case, I feel like vomiting. The information off the ground is insufficient and misleading. There are four planets in mutual reception, five if you include Jupiter. Ideas and things have been moved around to appear one way in order to camouflage the truth. Individuals on the ground have facts they are not divulging. The Moon on the evening of the disappearance, for instance, opposes Ruler of H. 8 containing a very young Venus. That ruler is Neptune. The Moon is therefore fully aware of what happened. When you have an opposition but particularly a lunar opposition, more so a Full Moon, you see it all. After the fact, you may decide to mask the happening but that opposition means you were in the know at the time.

Fifth essense allow me to say thank you so much for putting the charts together like that, and the discussions that went with them. I have been busy compiling my own file, but this will be a wonderful asset to those who come to the case late :blowkiss:

*NOTE: I wanted to make sure all of our wonderful astrologers & posters don't miss this if they want to watch it!

Haleigh Cummings will be one of four children featured tonight during the weekly Fox television show "America's Most Wanted."
The FBI, Florida Department of Law Enforcement and Putnam County Sheriff's Office have been working around the clock since Haleigh was reported missing from a bedroom at 3 a.m. on Feb. 11.
"America's Most Wanted" airs locally at 9 p.m. on Fox.

Sorry if someone reminded you about it & it is posted in the Time-Stamp thread but I figured I post it just before it starts in case anyone missed the post! Thanks!
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Tuba said:

When I study this case, I feel like vomiting. The information off the ground is insufficient and misleading. There are four planets in mutual reception, five if you include Jupiter. Ideas and things have been moved around to appear one way in order to camouflage the truth. Individuals on the ground have facts they are not divulging. The Moon on the evening of the disappearance, for instance, opposes Ruler of H. 8 containing a very young Venus. That ruler is Neptune. The Moon is therefore fully aware of what happened. When you have an opposition but particularly a lunar opposition, more so a Full Moon, you see it all. After the fact, you may decide to mask the happening but that opposition means you were in the know at the time.

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Thanks so much for your insight Tuba...I agree someone's holding back some critical info.

Can you please explain who is represented by 'Moon'? TIA :blowkiss:

I have only read about this so far and will have to wait for the 1AM repeat here.....but apparently CS has Jr this weekend and she had him on Geraldo talking about what he saw and heard that night. Some are saying it seemed like she was coaching him. Now she says that he saw a black man with black clothes and squeaky shoes. Why in HELLO would she put this child on TV? I am thinking CS has ulterior motives. Is there a way to tell if she is putting words into Jr's mouth.

I bet LE and Ron are through the roof about this interview. If I were him, I would go and take Jr back right now. That was totally irresponsible of her to put this child on national TV.

I am going to see if I can prop open my eyelids, and watch it again. Does anyone but me see a resemblance between Crystal and Mistie? They have similar coloring, at least.

Will look at their charts in the morning, and see if they share similar stress aspects. I so hope Mistie isn't involved on all those terrible drugs, but am afraid she might be.

So young, how sad.

I had posted on the other thread, but dont think I got an answer. Do we know by the charts if Haliegh has been moved, or is being moved, can the charts tell us that? Such as if she were in water floating down stream, or if she is in a car moving. Basically can we tell if she has been moved since the original chart?

If I remember correctly, Soul said she was still in the neighborhood. I apologize if I am saying something that is not accurate.

Wow. thanks FifthEssence, that is so much great information in one place.(at the top of thread):blowkiss:

salvarenga said:

I have only read about this so far and will have to wait for the 1AM repeat here.....but apparently CS has Jr this weekend and she had him on Geraldo talking about what he saw and heard that night. Some are saying it seemed like she was coaching him. Now she says that he saw a black man with black clothes and squeaky shoes. Why in HELLO would she put this child on TV? I am thinking CS has ulterior motives. Is there a way to tell if she is putting words into Jr's mouth.

I bet LE and Ron are through the roof about this interview. If I were him, I would go and take Jr back right now. That was totally irresponsible of her to put this child on national TV.

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Oh that is the height of irresponsibility, I agree!!! The poor child is dealing with his sister being gone, and his mother (and I use that term loosely) drags him on national tv to be grilled by the WORST person she could possibly let him be interviewed by. If I were Ron, I'd head straight to court for an Emergency Protection Order.

I'll bet he paid her megabucks for the interview -- that would be my guess...and she could thumb her nose at Ron. Geeeeez.... :loser:

It is disheartening to read over and over again that investigators do not know what happened to Haliegh and that they have no clues. It seems by now, they should have something.

I wonder if they have ever gotten the truth from MC?

Salem

housemouse said:

I am going to see if I can prop open my eyelids, and watch it again. Does anyone but me see a resemblance between Crystal and Mistie? They have similar coloring, at least.

Will look at their charts in the morning, and see if they share similar stress aspects. I so hope Mistie isn't involved on all those terrible drugs, but am afraid she might be.

So young, how sad.

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housemouse If you were unable to keep your tired eyelids opened....when I noticed your post I added the YouTube Videos & transcripts for the last few days in the Time-Stamped Thread for you to have EZ access to them.

FYI: I also added them in the Caylee Time-Stamped thread for anyone who may have missed any of them from the last few days. I know how hard all of you have been working on both cases & I hope these help all of you to have them for future references in both cases!

O/T Thanks Fifth for your post I just noticed it! :blushing: :angel: It takes all of our teamwork to for the astro threads to be what they are....my favorite threads in all of WS's! :clap: It is one of the things I can do to help out all of you wonderful astrologers, who give up so much of thier free time to find answers to all of the cases they work on! :blowkiss:

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beck, you asked who is the person the Moon represents? The Moon represents a woman in the case. In the horoscope for the last time Haleigh was seen, this woman appears as a friend and one in strained relation with Mercury and directly adverse relation with the Neptune caretaking. But we cannot trust the account of Haleigh's last known presence, so where does that leave us? Even if the statement is honest, it is only a vague approximation of the clock time. No one asserts the time was checked. Now we can't fault someone for going to bed without looking at the clock. There was no reason to do that, if the account of the night is true.

We do not know 100% sure the last time Haliegh was seen alive by a dependable person. I am assuming it would be the school teacher. You all are doing a hard job working with astrology for little Haliegh, but you could be off, maybe Haliegh was long gone before what Misty says. If you left Haliegh clear out, would that make a difference in what you all are seeing and coming up with?

I just wanted to thank you Fifth for putting all the information here too, trying to sort through threads and find this or that is maddening to the dominant right brainer

*NOTE: I didn't want anyone to miss this who might want to listen to the radio show! Sorry I know this is O/T for the Haleigh case but I didn't want any of our wonderful astrologers miss this tonight!

Sunday (Today) @ 10 PM EST / 9 CST / 8 MST / 7 PST On Blog Talk Radio there will be a discussion on the Caylee Anthony case.
Also please call into the show Live at: 347-838-9781.
The panel includes:
Robin Sax: Deputy DA L.A. California, sex crimes expert and child advocate.
Stacy Dittrich: Crime author, former police officer, law enforcement analyst.
Susan Murphy-Milano: Victims' Rights Advocate and author.

Radio show RE Caylee Anthony:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/levipage

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