Crystal S., Haleigh's mother #6

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snookie said:
I would like to know why Ron took the children with him to work out of town. Who watched them while he worked? Is there a link available?
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Yes, there is a link, it's in the custody documents. The link is in the document thread.

snookie said:
Why did he not leave the babies home with their mother while he worked?
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Do you honestly expect any of us to know the answer to this question?


snookie said:
In my experience, they will usually ask you which days are most convenient for you. They will work with you. If they suggest an appointment time/date that conflicts with your schedule, all you have to do is speak up.
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I guess we all have different experiences. Most specialists, in my experience, since they book months in advance, expect the patient, to work around THEIR schedule. They are the doctor afterall. If an appointment is scheduled for you through the primary care's office, you are expected to make the scheduled appointment. (I am not talking about a "Primary care" visit, or a "sick child" visit, which obviously the parent schedules, I am talking about a cardiologist appointment, which is what Junior had, and was skipped).

I do agree with you that if there is absolutely no way you can make the appointment, it is up to the parent to reschedule the appointment Problem with that scenario is often times that takes even longer to get an appointment.
 
mysticrose said:
So I just have to say that I am really excited and pleased that both families have decided to do some things postive for Haleighs upcoming birthday! I think that both ideas are great! May it bring more awareness to Haleigh!
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And to all of the missing children out there who don't get the attention that others do. And the adults,too. I tend to forget them and they need to come home, too.

I am glad that the family(s) are stirring up some media attention. Maybe it will help.

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The IGNORE feature is an awesome tool, I suggest some utilize it! ​
 
harleysnana said:
I'm sorry but a judge is not going to give custody to one party due to default!
And if Crystal showed up to any of the court dates it isn’t default!

IMO there were other reasons Ron got custody and there is a reason that
he still has custody!

I wonder why Crystal hasn't gone for custody of JR.... I mean... if I wanted
custody of my kids so bad I would file for it under the circumstances!
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BBM
In the state of Georgia they do....Don't know about other states.
 
Whisperer said:
Tom's Girl...Where is the Ignore button?
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It's in your USER CONTROL PANEL

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sleepingheart said:
BBM
In the state of Georgia they do....Don't know about other states.
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Well, we KNOW that Ron did not get custody due to Crystal being in default. There was a full hearing - we HAVE the transcript of said hearing. We also have the report of the magistrate in which he lists his reasons for giving Ron custody.

So, it really is a moot point discussing whether or not default is applicable, isn't it? Crystal didn't lose custody due to default.
 
Can anyone list the reasons you believe Crystal is involved in the crime?
 
I am resigned to the fact that RC will raise Butterbean. It is sad. I do wish it wasn't so but there is nothing that can be done about it.

So, It is done ...... for now.

To stay on topic, it would be helpful for the people who know this case and don't support Crystal, to explain their reasons for believing CS is involved in the disappearance of Haleigh. Are there theories that you still hold on to and can you present facts to support your reasoning.
 
Gracenote said:
And to all of the missing children out there who don't get the attention that others do. And the adults,too. I tend to forget them and they need to come home, too.

I am glad that the family(s) are stirring up some media attention. Maybe it will help.

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I pray it will help.
 
Whisperer said:
I am resigned to the fact that RC will raise Butterbean. It is sad. I do wish it wasn't so but there is nothing that can be done about it.

So, It is done ...... for now.

To stay on topic, it would be helpful for the people who know this case and don't support Crystal, to explain their reasons for believing CS is involved in the disappearance of Haleigh. Are there theories that you still hold on to and can you present facts to support your reasoning.
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Echoing silence.......
 
harleysnana said:
If there was no court order then the person who had them physically
actually has legal custody!
That is the law so IMO Ron did nothing wrong.
And if Crystal would have taken some time to at least call an attorney or
look on the internet she would have know that and she could have
done the same thing!
IMO Ron did what most if not all concerned parents would do regarding
custody until a court order was put into affect and that was to keep his kids
until custody was established in a court of law!

It also doesn't take rocket scientist to put together custody papers
and both legal aid and court houses offer help so I don't see why
if Crystal wanted custody she couldn't have done it even without
an attorney!

IMO Crystal didn't want custody of her "bratz" and IMO she still does not
so I don't see why we have to keep going over this again and again!

Regarding Misty not having a job.... she isn't legally responsible for
child support for 2 kids like Crystal!

Let’s see what have we figured out again today….
1.Ron has custody and has had for a while due to his legal rights.
2.Crystal by her own admission did not take Haleigh to her doctor appointments
because she did not get out of bed.
3.Haleigh is still missing.

This is getting old!
IMO
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I totally agree. I especially share your opinion that Crystal did not want custody, which is one of the saddest and most absurd parts of all imo. :(
 
SeriouslySearching said:
I disagree. If a child has a fever, you aren't supposed to rush them to the doctor. An upset stomach? Kids can't be taken to the doctor for a note every time they are ill and a doctor would not expect it either. It is ridiculous to expect a parent to have that type of verification to make it excused only to satisfy the school. Some parents would go broke trying to provide it!

As far as I know, Haleigh was taken to the doctor when she needed to go...unless she was with Crystal.
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I agree with you here SS...The school shouldn't expect this from the parents, but the fact is, they do. I know first hand. Children don't need to be ran to the MD every time they get a cold or something like that, because there is nothing the MD can do! A cold, which is what makes most kids sick most of the time, isn't a bacterial infection, it's a viral one; so, antibiotics are a bad idea to be passed out like candy for them. I told my childs MD once, "Look, I know she doesn't need any medicine or anything, but if I don't get an excuse for the school, they'll be after me like a gang of Hell's angels(Devils angels, not the motorcycle gang, lol)". My child's MD even told me that he understood & that what all the schools expected was ridiculous, but we still have to comply with them even so. We lost our medical insurance this past year, but the school didn't care about that either....they just want what they want. I do agree though, if it's something chronic, the child should be taken to the MD at some point.....you know, like as soon as you realize they are about to miss more days than they are allowed to.
 
OR we can hope that none of the people believe Crystal is involved.

And that's a good thing. With all those lemons, we may get good lemonade!
 
sleepingheart said:
BBM
In the state of Georgia they do....Don't know about other states.
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If you enter a judgment by default and custody is an issue there is a
hearing where both parties are present and judgment is made after that!
There is no such ruling by default when custody is an issue.
IMO
 
easily make that legal argument. At the time RC failed to return the children to their mother his paternity had not been established and thus he had NO legal right to those children. CS gave him permission to take the children for a set period of time. He had kept them for three months by the time the hearing occurred. If she had any clue she should have gone to court when he failed to return them.

He did not go to court just seeking custody as there would have been no basis to do so as paternity had not been established. This was the motion he brought "PETITION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND RELATED RELIEF". Until paternity was established the mother is the only legal parent of the minor children and the only person who has legal custody.

Of course, IMO the whole "trip" was just a setup concocted by RC & TN to set a pretty stage for custody. Let CS think you're away, move in with Mommy, get a job, and run to court. Not rocket science but good system manipulation.







SeriouslySearching said:
You cannot "steal" your own children unless there is a court order in place. Ronald did not steal or kidnap anyone. He was given the children until a judge decided they should stay with him. There was nothing misrepresented, imo. Crystal put the children in that position in the first place because she either did not want to care for them, was unable to care for them, or because she made a bad decision for whatever her reasons were at the time. Ronald chose not to return them because of valid reasons, imo. It was his purogative to file for custody if he felt the need which he obviously did.

So now we are going to move from the school absence issues into why Ronald ended up with custody? Why don't we beat this dead horse once again to see if it gets up to dance?! :rolleyes:

Why don't we discuss what Crystal was doing at that time while her children were gone? Let's go there since it hasn't been discussed. She wasn't out trying to find work...was she? I would love to know where she was and what she was really doing while he was taking care of both children and working.

ETA: How old was Crystal when she had Haleigh?! Maybe they should have taken away Haleigh then because she was too young to be caring for a child at her age.
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Flossie JMO said:
Crystal did not want custody
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I've always been under the impression that she was the one that had the 2nd hearing put in place so she could try to get custody, after missing the first hearing. To me, that says she did want custody of them...
 
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