AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #1

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Hey y'all. I just read through this thread.

I really hope this baby is ok.

I get the sense she sold him to someone in Texas at that park. I think this was planned out ahead of time. IMO if someone was desperate enough for a baby to "buy" one we may never find him. You don't just meet someone at a park and buy a baby and think it's legit.

I hope I'm wrong and they find him soon.
 
Here is the news link on Johnson's family members not cooperating.

http://www.kens5.com/news/local/test-today-80458837.html

"Johnson, who has a criminal record that does not include violence, will not cooperate with investigators, and neither will her family members, even though Johnson was facing a loss of custody. Her desperate moves have baffled authorities."
 
fhc said:
Here is the news link on Johnson's family members not cooperating.

http://www.kens5.com/news/local/test-today-80458837.html

"Johnson, who has a criminal record that does not include violence, will not cooperate with investigators, and neither will her family members, even though Johnson was facing a loss of custody. Her desperate moves have baffled authorities."
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Only traffic offenses so far for Elizabeth's criminal hx. http://www.criminalsearches.com/det...qAHdTvnCq2rsG6pqLoXePU8oIbBTLyqdc=&input=name
 
I have to ask, who's got the correct spelling?
The news with Gabriel or his father, with Gabrial?
 
Kimberlyd125 said:
Hey y'all. I just read through this thread.

I really hope this baby is ok.

I get the sense she sold him to someone in Texas at that park. I think this was planned out ahead of time. IMO if someone was desperate enough for a baby to "buy" one we may never find him. You don't just meet someone at a park and buy a baby and think it's legit.

I hope I'm wrong and they find him soon.
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Hi Kimberlyd!

I wonder why she won't say where her car is though? If she sold the baby, why ditch the car?

I really wish there was some more news on this case. So many unanswered questions. :(
 
Maybe she sold the car too? IDK
 
Maybe someone has the baby and the car and has headed into Mexico?
 
Kamille said:
Maybe someone has the baby and the car and has headed into Mexico?
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That's my most current theory, at least the MX part.
I think someone either wanted the car to get far away or she planned to return for the car and kid once the heat was off.
I do think that Gabriel and the car are in the same place, and recently I am leaning towards that place being Mexico.
 
I may be gasping at straws here hoping little Gabriel is ok, but TammiFay's (I think she's Elizabeth's aunt?) has now made her profile privat (probably in searching for info she saw that we'd been on her profile) and her mood is accomplished...I wonder if she found out what she was looking for in the message entitled Gabriel? Maybe she knows where he is now from family?
 
Covering Gabriel's case on Fox Geraldo at Large
Sgt. Carbajal - Tempe Az. PD - "Our investigators are working very diligently in this investigation, our main goal and our number one goal is to get Gabriel back safely."
Recently confirmed that Elizabeth and baby Gabriel were in San Antonio Dec 22nd thru Dec 26th or 27th, not sure if it was 26th or 27th that she left San Antonio. Still trying to verify some of that information.
Have established that she was at a Studio Homegate Studio and Suites and also a Quality Inn in San Antonio for sure on the 26th, scheduled to leave on the 27th, did not check out formally so not sure if she actually left on the 26th or 27th.
Has confirmed information that she was trying to put him up for adoption, sell him or just flat give him away.
 
fhc said:
Here is the news link on Johnson's family members not cooperating.

http://www.kens5.com/news/local/test-today-80458837.html

"Johnson, who has a criminal record that does not include violence, will not cooperate with investigators, and neither will her family members, even though Johnson was facing a loss of custody. Her desperate moves have baffled authorities."
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Oh thank you! That is interesting. I completely missed that.

That adds a whole new perspective, and I actually feel more hopeful that Elizabeth didn't harm Gabriel.
 
Courtney1981 said:
I may be gasping at straws here hoping little Gabriel is ok, but TammiFay's (I think she's Elizabeth's aunt?) has now made her profile privat (probably in searching for info she saw that we'd been on her profile) and her mood is accomplished...I wonder if she found out what she was looking for in the message entitled Gabriel? Maybe she knows where he is now from family?
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Wow I wonder what that accomplished means.
 
momtective said:
Covering Gabriel's case on Fox Geraldo at Large
Sgt. Carbajal - Tempe Az. PD - "Our investigators are working very diligently in this investigation, our main goal and our number one goal is to get Gabriel back safely."
Recently confirmed that Elizabeth and baby Gabriel were in San Antonio Dec 22nd thru Dec 26th or 27th, not sure if it was 26th or 27th that she left San Antonio. Still trying to verify some of that information.
Have established that she was at a Studio Homegate Studio and Suites and also a Quality Inn in San Antonio for sure on the 26th, scheduled to leave on the 27th, did not check out formally so not sure if she actually left on the 26th or 27th.
Has confirmed information that she was trying to put him up for adoption, sell him or just flat give him away.
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Oh my God NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
 
momtective said:
Covering Gabriel's case on Fox Geraldo at Large
Sgt. Carbajal - Tempe Az. PD - "Our investigators are working very diligently in this investigation, our main goal and our number one goal is to get Gabriel back safely."
Recently confirmed that Elizabeth and baby Gabriel were in San Antonio Dec 22nd thru Dec 26th or 27th, not sure if it was 26th or 27th that she left San Antonio. Still trying to verify some of that information.
Have established that she was at a Studio Homegate Studio and Suites and also a Quality Inn in San Antonio for sure on the 26th, scheduled to leave on the 27th, did not check out formally so not sure if she actually left on the 26th or 27th.
Has confirmed information that she was trying to put him up for adoption, sell him or just flat give him away.
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Oh No!!
I hope whoever she handed him off to (if thats what she did) is someone who really wanted a child and could not have one, so they will love him and treat him well....
 
I still see this as positive. If it was a random stranger, then why shut up? She can't protect herself any longer, she's just making the hole deeper with silence.
The only reason to stay mute is to protect someone else, possibly someone that knows enough to get her in more trouble, or somebody that she really does care about.

I still get the impression that she just does not get it. I think if she had killed him, she would get it, at least a little. There would be a reaction...even casey talked. Lies, but she talked.
 
Found this link on Logan's soon to be ex sister in laws FB page!

http://www.foxsanantonio.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/vid_863.shtml

"The natiosnwide search continues for a missing 8-month-old baby last seen in San Antonio.
His mom has been taken into custody in Miami but she refuses to tell authorities where baby Gabriel Johnson is.
The family that was about to adopt the baby believes he's still alive and still in town."

OK, in the video, Tammi was supposed to be the adoptive mother of Gabriel but Logan wouldnt sign over rights. I think Tammi knows more than she is saying! IMO
 
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