Well....he'd just passed a milestone:
his 30th birthday was just a few weeks before. He'd moved to St George after he left the Trib in 2008....had a couple of other jobs, and now, he found himself doing menial labor and was behind on his bills.
I dunno. It's reported he got a bit "sharp" with his mother when they discussed his finances, and she sent him money. His grandmother gave him a check, and he didn't cash it.
It'd be interesting to find out WHEN he got the check from his grandmother. If it sat uncashed, while he faced eviction, that's troubling.
DH wasn't planning on evicting Steven but with Christmas and around the corner and having to make our rent payment (where we are now living) and our house payment along with both sets of utilities (because JZ had bailed and Steven was behind neither had paid their share of utilities) we were falling behind on the bills. DH decided to give Steven's parents a call, which Steven did not know about, to see if Steven had ask for help with money. I am sure it upset Steven to know DH had called his mom and told her he was behind on rent.
We don't drink tea. I'm not so sure about iced tea. I do know that Steven doesn't like it. But we almost have to factor in a mental health issue if this is Steven so it could work.
BTW I'm a mormon and I LOVE diet coke!
Our oldest daughter is on daily injections so when we travel we have to keep her medication in the fridge. Neither DH or I ever noticed Iced Tea in the fridge or any caffeinated drinks for that matter but our own.
LE = law enforcement.
Yes, a resident in each home was talked to. No homes were searched, nor was every occupant grilled (that would take warrants, and probable cause).
Even if they talked to each person that doesn't mean that no one had anything to do with his disappearance. It just means that nothing seemed suspicious at the time.
Couple more things before I crawl off into a corner to try to recover from the weekend.
-The trip to Mesquite seems to have gone futher west. There was a ping from Steven's AT&T cell phone on the Overton cell tower which, I understand, is near lake mead? Could someone become a wikipedia expert on how/when cell towers pass different cell phones??
-Travis Hansen (steven's boss) saw him Tuesday the 8th in St George.
-Does Jordan Zirkle (steven's roommate) have family in Vegas as he claims? He made lots of calls to Vegas to "family"
DH said JZ moved from the Vegas area and he does think he has family there but that he was from Chicago.
Naegle,
Can you give us a physical description of JZ? Height? Weight? Have you ever met or seen a picture of him? I believe you said earlier he is in his 20's. Is this correct?
DH says about 5'8" mabye 120 pounds he has several tattoos. Probably around 26 to 28 yrs. DH has the lease but he left it with other papers since he is filing legal against him for unpaid rent.
I'm sorry -- I thought Naegle would answer this one; she'd have more info on it.
Jordan rented the other "room" in the house that Steve lived in.
Apparently, they each paid to have their own private bedroom, and could share the rest of the house (except the landlord's private area).
That is right. They each had their own bedroom and shared the rest of the house. There is one small area (masterbed and bath) we kept locked off from the rest of the house. It has it's own private entrance so often we didn't even go into the rest of the house at all during a visit. The only exception being when DH would put daughters meds in the fridge for overnight.
OK, my very unprofessional opinion: I think the timing of buying the gifts is odd, but not necessarily the amount spent. If he has a large family to buy for and is strapped for cash, he may have been shopping on the cheap.
I agree. Also if Steven was planning another trip like Sacramento he might have been thinking ahead and getting things in his car and shopping along the way thinking he would be busy up to Christmas, which he told his family he would be there.
Z lived with him. Basically Z was the closest person actually to him physically. Steven had no obvious means of communicationg from anything "he" owned. Did he use Z's phone? Did Z use Steven's phone? Who did either one call and why?
There has to be some connection/communication between Steven and Evening Lights....every stone must be overturned, even the little ones. I know these questions seem trivial, but obviously something is being overlooked somewhere.
Naegle, were video tapes reviewed? I mean what if the tapes show Steven getting a prescription filled under an alias at Kmart for all we know.
Which receipts are actual paper receipts?
I am sure if JZ had ask to use Stevens phone he would have let him.
Exactly. Steven was going to Evening Lights...why? Who told him to go there? How did he speak to them?
He didnt communicate through anything he owned to anyone "out of the ordinary". So that can mean one of 2 things. Either one of his ordinary friends knows more than we do or he was using someone elses communication devices. Somehow there is a missing link somewhere. He didnt just show up at random.
If a call was made from Stevens phone while he was traveling to someone Steven did not know, then he possibly had a passenger using his phone. Naegle asked if Z had any relatives because he said he had been calling family, correct me if Im wrong. How does she know Z talked to family? Do they have Z's phone records or did Z use Stevens phone?
We need answers. Its a shame the car was not fingerprinted. Maybe Steven had company on some of his road trips. Did Z have transportation? Was Steven taking him places and picking him up for extra money?
Naegle asked ~ -Does Jordan Zirkle (steven's roommate) have family in Vegas as he claims? He made lots of calls to Vegas to "family"
Along these lines if Steven and JZ talked face to face most of the time there wouldn't be any record of it. I wonder if JZ has any ties to Sacramento, pot is legal there isn't it Medically? JZ also knew Steven was having trouble paying the bill because DH talked to both of them about their share of the utilities being past due and we were trying to avoid disconnection.
Maybe he used the phone at the house, so the owners have the records of who the roommate called. If that's the case, then CALL the numbers. If the numbers are on Steven's phone, then how does the family know they are JZ's calls and not his? Does Steven's mom get his phone bills and she asked him and she took his answers for face value???? This would explain why there is nothing on his phone...he knew his mom would see who he was talking to.
No landline at the house.
Yes, I did some searching for Zirkles in LV & Henderson also.
Is the IHOP Fairy went to in LV or Henderson (on Boulder Blvd.) The reason I'm asking is because there is a Zirkle at 120 S Sunset Rd in Henderson, but on the map it is near Boulder Blvd.
Also, can we find the age of Zirkle and if his name is Jordan R Zirkle or could it be R. J. Zirkle as in possiblly Robert or Richard? I know you found his case in the Utah Courts. TIA
There are so many ways to get around the dogs Web.
Smaller quanities would especially be no problem. Saw a program last night where they use ketchup or hot sauce to throw the dogs off. Smaller quantities could be immersed in almost anything. He could be transporting and not using.
OTOH
Do we know what day Z bailed on the rental? If Steven could lock his room upon leaving?
Jordan moved out the middle of November. He didn't pay any rent for Nov. The only reason JZ was able to lock his room is because he changed doorknobs and had his own keys to the room which we have never had. We were not able to get into that room until the end of Dec. Steven's room had the typical bedroom doorknob that could be locked when you are inside the room, not so much upon leaving.
I wonder if it's too late to fingerprint the car or a forensic search---say anything linking to Z. Now I want to know what kind of drugs Z was busted for. Pot, coke, heroin, prescription or other????
No idea but there was pot left behind in the room.
We really need to make another question form for Naegle. We need more answers.
What EXACTLY was bought at Kmart?
What coats were in the car?
Did Z use Steven's phone?
Does Z have transportation?
Have videos already been reviewed?
Was there a landline phone at the residence?
JZ drove a older Dodge Avenger but was trading it in. He might be driving a Weathermaster work truck now but really we don't know.
No landline at the residence.
I had the impression that LE wasn't that interested in Zirkle.
Is the "thing that cannot be mentioned" related to him?
There's a boatload of Zirkles in Vegas; I'd be shocked if he wasn't related to some of them.
We're still trying to find his birth date, etc, before we can link him to someone. (Someone here may already have that info, but hasn't posted about it yet.)
Questions:
Did the landlord ever have the "pot" tested, or is this an assumption?
He's got a minor drug record, but not what you see in major criminals.
They haven't arrested him for being "one of the biggest drug dealers in St George" (as was posted here).
There must be something else that leads to him?
Has LE checked out his "family" in Vegas, and his whereabouts when Steven disappeared?
Webb situ:
1 - Why was he in Vegas?
It just seems odd that the President and Counselor would each, independently, decide to go to Vegas.
If it's odd that Steven went, why is it not odd that Webb went?
2 - After Steven said he couldn't cover him at PEC, GW told Steve that he'd do it himself....then the last we hear, is that they were trying to call Steven after all, because GW wasn't there by (at least) 11:15am.
Did Webb ever show up at the PEC?
When Webb knew he was running late, why didn't HE call his Bishop?
The cops that came to look in Zs room said it was pot. No official testing or anything. The room is very dusty & looked like if was rarely vacuumed but no signs of damage or something like meth cooking.
Naegle Steven and your family are in our prayers! We hope more than anything he is found safe.
