Reported/Possible sightings of Elizabeth and/or Gabriel from 12/18 to 12/30

BeanE said:

Babysitter arrived at hotel late, at 11:45 and was there until 1:30. Need to shave off a few minutes on arrival for the EJ/babysitter discussion on giving Gabe tylenol etc. Also need to shave off a few minutes at the end for EJ overheard phone call and EJ/babysitter discussion do you need me to babysit again, I don't know what I'm going to do next, etc.

So 1 hour 45 minutes minus 'talk time' on each end, leaving driving and time at salon about 1 1/2 hours.

Drive time rounded of 15 to 25 minutes each way = 30 to 50 minutes r/t.

Time at salon after taking out drive time, min approx 40 minutes, max approx 1 hour. Wait time to see hairdresser unknown.

Elizabeth looks to have a good head of hair, so I think that would be barely enough time for a very quick trim? 10 minutes to shampoo, 30 to cut?

How's that look? I am not responsible for any bad math lol.

IMO not plausible that she'd go out of her way for a rushed quick trim. She didn't tell the babysitter she had to be back by a certain time, so no known reason she'd have rushed a quick trim.

Do we have recent pics pre-Dec 22 and then maybe her mug shots and screencaps from hearing to see how much of a difference in hairstyle/how much of a cut she had? We could also look at hair color and also curliness for perm.

I'm just thinking in the Thanksgiving pics her hair was long (past shoulder) and at her hearing mid-length (slightly above shoulder length). That would be a significant cut. But... that's counting on my memory, which is never a good thing

I'm not good at doing side by side pics. Anybody want to take a shot at it?

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BeanE said:

Something else to consider is that Logan and Elizabeth's grandfather have said that they believe Elizabeth is bipolar. I have two close friends with big time bipolar. When each of them are manic, they go on wild spending sprees, get their hair done, manis, pedis, massages, beauty treatments of all kinds, and they do so with no rhyme or reason to it, i.e., doesn't matter if they just got their hair done, they'll do it again. Doesn't matter if the house is on fire, they'll go get their hair done.

Just wanted to mention it FWIW.

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BeanE said:

Oh I hadn't even thought of drugging him and leaving him.

I can't go there. I'm going to keep thinking the HG.

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kissdegirl said:

Me too. From the missingGabe info you just posted, sounds like she had another sitter for sure. The housekeepers saw someone other than EJ on the 23rd....so interesting.

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Boo Scout said:

If EJ had another sitter on the 23rd, IMO, it was someone provided by whomever she worked with to take Gabriel.

But could the housekeeper's memory be off on the date? I only ask b/c AU did talk about the housekeeper coming in using her key on NG, so the housekeeper's story and AU's story corroborate each other, except for the date.

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BeanE said:

Something else to consider is that Logan and Elizabeth's grandfather have said that they believe Elizabeth is bipolar. I have two close friends with big time bipolar. When each of them are manic, they go on wild spending sprees, get their hair done, manis, pedis, massages, beauty treatments of all kinds, and they do so with no rhyme or reason to it, i.e., doesn't matter if they just got their hair done, they'll do it again. Doesn't matter if the house is on fire, they'll go get their hair done.

Just wanted to mention it FWIW.

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Concernedmomarizona said:

Hi BeanE....I don't remember reading that they said she was bipolar. I just remember them talking about PPD. Was there a video or article about that? Just curious. I have bipolar friends as well and totally agree with what you said above. I just didn't think they had actually said it.

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kappy50 said:

So let's say she did go to the salon on the 22nd, she may have just left GB in the car, say he was asleep and she did not want to wake him, or worst yet, didn't want to drag him in the salon and have to take care of him. Therefore, leaving AU to babysit on the
23rd. Before, I adopted our daughter, her bio mom who was only 16, would go out and leave my daughter in a play pen with several bottles lined up in it...just sayin...

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BeanE said:

Sorry, it was Gabe's grandfather and Logan.

His father, Frank McQueary, told AP that he and his son long have believed that Johnson has undiagnosed bipolar disorder but that she always refused to seek help.


http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/tempe/johnson_case_011210

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Prof said:

I started a Google map to pinpoint EJ sightings
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=112629740671339173896.0004806ea89e7eab99646

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...Highly popular childrens’ programs attract many families with young children..
.one of the busiest outlets of the San Antonio Public Library...
Great Northwest Branch Library has 17 public computers with internet access, and also provides a wi-fi service for patrons arriving with their own equipment...

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BeanE said:

There's a comment on Gabe's Bring Home Gabriel public Facebook page saying that EJ was seen at a laundromat Dec 26 washing baby clothes. Doesn't indicate whether Gabe was with her.

They said it was aired on channel 10, which is myfoxphoenix.com I believe. I don't see anything on there yet, but let's keep an eye out.

I can't figure out why she'd be washing Gabe's clothes on the 26th if she was leaving them all behind at the hotel on the 27th. I'm baffled.

Here's the link to Bring Home Gabriel. The comment was 2 hours ago on the Wall:
http://en-gb.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=share&gid=251236072296

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DairyGirl said:

I kind of take sightings with a grain of salt, especially since, like you said, she was leaving all his clothes behind the next day but the only thing I can think of is maybe she wasn't sure at that point what her plans were. She may have been thinking about running with him to FL. Maybe getting cold feet about giving him away. I know that doesn't make sense since she had already done that once before. Otherwise I just can't think of a reason she would be washing clothes she wouldn't be needing. Maybe she was washing her clothes and his were there, too. Funny how the attendent would remember this detail weeks after he went missing.

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BeanE said:

I know what you mean about the sightings. There's always a chance the person thinks it was EJ and it wasn't.

Washing his clothes on the 26th would indicate to me that she planned at that point on keeping him with her at least for a while. Or possibly that she planned on giving his clothes along with him to somebody.

Since that was the day she moved over to the Quality Inn and got all the phones and went to Jack in the Box, I'm not sure at what time she would have been doing laundry.

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