LEVI PAGE: Good evening, I am your host Levi Page. Breaking news in the case of missing Satsuma Florida girl, HaLeigh Cummings. The 6-year-old beauty vanished from her home while under the care of a teenager who just got off a drug, sex, and alcohol spree. Misty Croslin failed multiple polygraphs and police publicly say she holds the key to what happened to this missing child. Misty Croslin, along with the father of HaLeigh, Ronald Cummings, is busted for drug trafficking. An undercover police dash cam captured it all on tape. Cummings is caught callously talking about how drug dealers didnt murder his daughter. Cummings snags a deal and gives Police new information about his missing daughter and gets a plea deal but the plea deal aint so sweet. Today in Court, Cummings own mother takes the stand and cries for the Judge and says that Ron is A good man and that his two children, HaLeigh and Junior, need him and begged the Judge for leniency. If his children needed him, why was he selling drugs instead of searching for his daughter and tending to his young son Junior? And 2 children, doesnt Rons mother realize Ron has a third child, a disabled child that he has nothing to do with? Can you say, Deadbeat dad? Tonight the crying jag of Teresa Neves didnt work on Judge Terry LaRue as Cummings is slapped with a 15-year sentence and a whopping fine. Plus tonight, exclusive, as we go to air, I have just learned that Misty Croslin today went under a long, grueling interrogation by LE and you wont believe what cops are telling her. Is Misty Croslin on the verge of cracking and saying what happened to this missing child? With us tonight is Holly Hughes, she is a former prosecutor and current defense attorney. She is based out of Atlanta, and very well known in that jurisdiction. She has prosecuted and defended violent crimes. She is very familiar with these cases. Holly, thank you for joining us tonight.
HOLLY HUGHES: Absolutely, it is a pleasure to be with you Levi.
LEVI PAGE: Holly, what do you think about the Judge hearing the cries, the begs of Ronalds own mother for leniency? The Judge isnt buying it and slaps him with 15-years in prison the minimum mandatory.
HOLLY HUGHES: Absolutely, these Judges have seen it all and heard it all Levi and the defendants mom getting up there and saying he is a good boy means nothing. Of course she is going to say that, it is her own kid. So the fact that she is up there and weeping and sobbing, let me tell you something, this is nothing new for this Judge. He is going with the deal that was worked out by the State, he is trusting his prosecutors that they have done the right thing here in that they have gotten some good information from this guy, but I mean clearly, this woman is lying through her teeth that he is such a good daddy. As you pointed out in your opening, that while his daughter is missing, he is out there slinging dope: now hes really dedicated to searching for her.
LEVI PAGE: Yeah and everybody if you go to artharris.com, Art Harris published a new picture of Misty and Ronald Cummings and this is a month after his child vanishes: Ronald Cummings marries the main suspect in the case, marries her and takes off to New York for a honeymoon and they are literally Holly licking each other, touching tongues, and smiling for the camera. This doesnt look like a father whose child just vanished and is missing and can possibly be in harms way.
HOLLY HUGHES: Absolutely, this picture is so inappropriate on so many levels Levi, but it gives you insight into the mindset of these people. Now you know when your child goes missing, that is a horrible, horrible event in your life, and no, youre not going to cry 24/7: its just not possible. You know there will be times when you are going to smile and when the camera may catch you having a little laugh, that is all perfectly normal, but what we see in this photograph is just the inappropriate public behavior of these two and it goes to that mindset of we dont have to conform to what everybody else does, we dont have to follow the rules, we dont have to behave in public, and it just goes to show you what they think of societys norms and the way people should behave and the laws, I mean they dont care, they know they are under scrutiny, they have got to know that people are watching yet they are out taking these kinds of photographs in public and then allowing them to be published: letting family members have them and go ahead and give them to investigative journalists. So it is a look into their mindset and it is just disgusting, and I got to tell you those are not the kind of pictures I want to see.
LEVI PAGE: And Holly what is interesting is that Ronald Cummings according to the Florida Times Union very early on in this case, I have a quote right here from Law Enforcement, it says Cummings has cut off interviews with investigators, besides No I didnt have nothing to do with my child being missing, what do you say? he asked. Major Gary Bowling, Director of Law Enforcement for the Department, said detectives would like to interview Cummings but have been resisted. That is from the Florida Times Union. Holly, we have seen Misty Croslin talk, Misty Croslin pointing the finger at her Tennessee cousin, Joe Overstreet, who she said molested her, has threatened her, she says she is afraid of him, she says he is crazy, he is a criminal. She says that he took HaLeigh, killed her, dumped HaLeigh in the St. Johns River all because of a fight over a machine gun that he had with HaLeighs father, Ronald Cummings. Mistys talked, Tommy Croslin has talked. Tommy Croslin telling police that he seen Joe Overstreet strangle HaLeigh, that he seen Joe Overstreet take HaLeigh, put her in the van, drive HaLeigh to the St. Johns River, tie her down with a cement block and yellow rope and dump her in the river. That is Tommy Croslin talking, but the one person we havent gotten a story out of is Ronald Cummings, and I think Police gave him a deal put him under a proffer agreement because we know there was a proffer session with Ronald Cummings and they wanted him to talk: they wanted him to talk because they have yet to hear from him and this was a way to get information about the case they havent been able to get from him.
HOLLY HUGHES: Well absolutely I mean Levi that is a mouthful so lets just go back to the beginning and address one issue at a time. First of all, if your child is missing and you have nothing to do with it, you are absolutely cooperating with the Police. You are down at the Police Station every single day, working the last nerve of the detective. You are in his face, you go what are you doing today, what is happening with this case, where is my daughter? Why arent you out working? Why are you sitting in this station house? What can I do to help? You are calling local media, youre saying Hey keep my daughters picture out there. Put her on the 6 oclock news, put her on the 8 oclock news, you are working like a madman to get that child back. You are not refusing to help. I mean you and I both know Marc Klaas.
LEVI PAGE: I am going out to New York for a honeymoon.
HOLLY HUGHES: Exactly. That is exactly right. You and I know Marc Klass, I respect Marc so much and he will tell you as the father of a murdered child, you know the first thing you do is whatever the Police need, whatever they want. Yes I will sit through an interrogation, yes put me on a polygraph, whatever you need to do to eliminate me so that you can get onto the real kidnapper and killer. So first off, that just stinks to high heaven, so that gives me reason he knows a lot more than he is telling. Now, moving forward, Misty claims that this Joe Overstreet molested her, when did this happen? Did you call the Police, did you report it? Have you seen this kid? He is a pep squeak, Misty could take him, are you kidding me? Get real! I mean you could blow him away in a windstorm: this is not some bulking body builder okay? So if thats true, if there was molestation, why has it never been told because if it had been told, even if she claimed she is so scared of him she wouldnt report it to the Police, which is a load of crap, because he lives in a completely different state, so he molests you then left the State? Call the Police and have them go and arrest his behind.
LEVI PAGE: You know Tommy Croslins attorney, James Werter, says they were all afraid of Joe Overstreet. The day after HaLeigh went missing: Joe Overstreet was back in Tennessee. You know someone in Satsuma Florida which there is a long distance between Satsuma Florida and Tennessee, they are not going to be afraid of someone when they go back home to a completely different state more than 10 hours away.
HOLLY HUGHES: Exactly, thats exactly right. And if you are that scared, call the cops and get him arrested and take them immediately to where the evidence is before it degrades, before it gets washed away, before animals get to it, take them immediately and say, Oh my gosh, you know you have to go and arrest this guy, we are terrified of him, but we can lead you exactly to the crime scene, we can tell you exactly what happened. What a load of crapola. They are saying oh drug dealers took the baby, they are saying cousin Joe did it. I dont believe a word any one of those lying people say. His own grandmother, Flora Hollers, is saying, yeah I think Ron has something to do with it.
LEVI PAGE: Yeah.
HOLLY HUGHES: That is her gut feeling I will give you that much but I think he knows a lot more than he is saying but here is the thing with the plea deal: Lets remember the reason that they point him out on this, the allocution that he gave and the proffer that he gave, as far as we know, is with respect to Misty and Tommys drug dealing. He said he would testify against her in a drug dealing trial, he has not said to anyones knowledge that he will testify against her in a murder trial.
LEVI PAGE: Art Harris is reporting on his website and he reported this a couple of weeks ago on this Show, that Ronald Cummings was giving police new information about the timeline in the HaLeigh Cummings case and new information about Misty, Tommy, and Joe Overstreet, and his relationship with these characters which begs the question If you are totally innocent, why are you coming out with new information a year and a half after your child is missing? Dont you give that up right then and there?
HOLLY HUGHES: Absolutely. And that is why I am very suspicious that he has given them anything. He might say to them, This is all I know, but I wouldnt believe him as far as I could throw him because
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LEVI PAGE: Doesnt it help the investigator to get him to talk since he has previously clammed up?
HOLLY HUGHES: Well it is absolutely imperative that they hear what he has to say, Im just not sure it is going to be helpful. Yeah he can go in there and say to them, yeah I called 90 times, they already know that okay? They have his cell phone records. They have investigated the hell out of this case, they have worked so hard and done such a great job in doing everything they can and I mean they put these people under surveillance. How do you think they got them on video dealing drugs? They were watching these people of interest to them so the police have absolutely worked it but I got to tell you, I cant see Ronald, if he is involved in this, really giving up too much because he is afraid he is going to implicate himself.
LEVI PAGE: Maybe though Holly they have something that was pressuring him to talk.
HOLLY HUGHES: Well you know that would be great but here is the thing, I cannot see any prosecutor worth his salt, giving a deal to someone who he thinks might be part and party to a crime.
LEVI PAGE: Holly, what does that tell you though whenever Ronald Cummings swears up and down that he didnt have anything to do with his missing child but very early in the case, Ronald Cummings hired a Criminal Defense team very early, and a lot of people will say, his supporters will say its because Crystal Sheffield, the mother of HaLeigh got an attorney to get HaLeigh taken away from him but he got an attorney even before that happened and it was not a family law attorney, it was criminal defense attorneys that specialized in criminal defense.
HOLLY HUGHES: Well to me there are a lot of people who would say well you know you want to make sure your rights are protected. Heres the thing, if you got a missing child that you truly love, and you think some stranger has come in and abducted her, you are not thinking about yourself. Any good parent is not thinking about himself, he is concerned about the whereabouts of his child, and what that child may be going through if she has been taken by a kidnapper, so for you to be worried about protecting your own interests, which to me, if you have nothing to hide, go ahead and cooperate, you dont need
LEVI PAGE: You know what it reminds me of. Remember in the Jon Benet Ramsey case, the Ramseys clammed up very early on and hired criminal defense attorneys. They got on a plane immediately and went to Atlanta within 48 hours of Jon Benet Ramsey dying and they also hired media people, public relations specialists to deal with the media instead of talking to police and it wasnt until months after their daughter was murdered that they finally sat down to talk to Police and in this case whats similar in the Jon Benet Ramsey case and the HaLeigh Cummings case is that Misty and Ron were so tight: that they were almost inseparable. They got married, Ron protected Misty from law enforcement, Ron did not want law enforcement barking up Mistys tree despite Ron knew her story made no sense, there were tons of inconsistencies in her story and that she had lied, and instead of pointing the finger at Misty, Ronald was always wanting the finger to be pointed at Crystal Sheffield, HaLeighs own mother and her side of the family and telling the Police they should look at them. And according to my sources, Ronald would even take his child Junior to Police and have him snitch on what Crystal was doing: Crystal did this and Crystal did that while all the while his daughter was missing. It seems like Ronald was more interested in trashing the mother of HaLeigh then actually getting HaLeigh back and finding out exactly who did it which is that little gal pal of his who cheated on him but he still marries her and supports her and says she is just great!
HOLLY HUGHES: Right absolutely, well here is the thing. If you think he tells on himself because lets all remember when he makes the initial 911 call with Misty that morning he says to the police, you all need to get here quick because if I find out whos got my daughter before you get here, Im going to fin kill them. Okay, so he is saying whoevers got my kid, whoever hurt my kid, whoever did something to my kid, Im going to kill em, but then he turns around and marries her a month later? So we know that that is all posturing, we know that thats all lies because what he said was basically
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LEVI PAGE: And what is so disturbing is that a lot of people will see the tears in Rons face and theyll say oh he could never do that. You know Ive listened to a video tape of Ronald Cummings talking to a bounty hunter that was previously involved in this case, a bounty hunter named Cobra, and Cobra got this on tape and Ronald Cummings callously, callously Holly talked about how if the body of HaLeigh, his own daughter was thrown in the St. Johns River, he callously talked about how alligators would eat the body and basically clean everything up but the bones.
HOLLY HUGHES: First of all, this guy has so many issues: I dont know that that bothered me so much because that is just typical of his personality and his behavior. He is just not going to behave like a normal member of society.
LEVI PAGE: He was talking about daddys little boy Junior and he said, Ill take him with me: Ill take him to my grave. That is very disturbing and it is also equally disturbing the lifestyle these children were subjected to because we are hearing about all sorts of illegal guns, illegal drugs being inside that home. We are hearing about the people that Ronald and Misty associated with being inside the home with HaLeigh and Junior and Ronald at one point, and this was witnessed by Tim Miller with Texas Equasearch, pulled out a gun that he had unsecured in his room, the same room that his child who was I think 4-years-old Junior was sleeping in, he took out the gun, put the barrel of the gun inside his mouth Holly and threatened to kill himself and Take others out with me. This is a disturbed individual.
HOLLY HUGHES: Absolutely, but it just goes to show you again what his mindset is, and his mindset is its all about me: just like the honeymoon photos. Just like marrying the last person to see his daughter before she went missing, it is all about him, its about what he wants to do, just like breaking the law and trafficking drugs, I dont care what the law says, I dont care what Society says, I want to make some money so I am going to go and deal drugs. Let me back up
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LEVI PAGE: Ron had a job at PDM Bridge and that was making an honest living but he never showed back up there after his daughter vanished, instead he was raking in donations by people in the community and you know what he was doing with those donations? He was getting tattoos, he was taking Misty out to eat, he was going to the Fair, he was going to the racetrack, and guess what we learned on this program a couple of weeks ago, according to Kim Picazio, that Ronald Cummings after shooting an episode of Nancy Grace where he turned on the tears for the camera, got up, left his mom sitting there crying and went mud bogging.
HOLLY HUGHES: Oh yeah, none of this surprises me. I mean, why work for a living when someone else will pay for your lifestyle? Good heavens, I mean if I had people sending me money in the mail, I wouldnt work another day in my life! Shoot I would be out there buying myself $1200 Lindsey Lohan shoes. And lets talk about the tears for a second.
LEVI PAGE: And on his truck, he put this sticker on his truck that says, Only God Can Judge Me! Who does that when their child is missing? Only someone who knows that they have done something wrong. He knows hes done something wrong.
HOLLY HUGHES: He is going to get his wish Levi and that is perfectly okay with me. He is going to get his wish okay, he will be judged let me tell you something. But in the meantime, lets talk about two issues: the tears, I could grasp the fact that he has tears but let me tell you something, do we all remember Susan Smith?
LEVI PAGE: Yup.
HOLLY HUGHES: Susan Smith stood in front of those cameras and sobbed and cried I love my babies, I want my babies back, whoevers got my babies, please bring my children back. P.S. in the meantime, she knows that they are still strapped in their car seats at the bottom of the lake where she left them. So the fact that he can go on there and turn on the tears means nothing to me. I have seen it all, heard it all, and it means nothing except, so the tears dont mean anything, I lost my train of thought Levi: I went off on that rant Levi because I was so mad about that.
LEVI PAGE: Remember Susan Smith killed her children because she had a boyfriend that didnt like the fact that she had children so she decided to kill the children and a lot of times children get in the way of the lifestyle that you want to lead, and if Ronald wants to lead a lifestyle of doing drugs, having sex with underage women, it is kind of hard to do that when you got two children you got to take care of.
HOLLY HUGHES: Thats exactly right. Yeah. Thats a lot of responsibility. So frightening, frightening, you need a license to go fishing but anyone can have a child, thats scares me.
LEVI PAGE: That is exactly true and you know what else is interesting is a lot of people take a quote that LE use and they say Ronald Cummings is not a suspect and I try to explain that the reason LE made that quote is because they are not going to come out and say, oh we think this guy is a suspect if they want to get this guy to talk. This guy was not cooperating with them: he was not coming in for questioning. They want to get him in so they are going to say he is not a suspect, they are going to say, hey no pressure, come in and talk with us.
HOLLY HUGHES: That is exactly right. There are certain rights that have to be read to you if you are under arrest, if you are in custody they have to tell you about your Miranda rights, they have to advise you that you have the right to remain silent, you can have an attorney present, if you are not a suspect, if you are not under arrest or under suspicion and you are just a witness they dont have to go through all those hoops, they dont have to give you your rights, they can say its a friendly conversation, lets find out what you know. So yeah lets face it Levi, there is no statute of limitations on murder, so they can call him whatever they like until they develop enough information to put him in a different category, hes not a suspect. But if and when they find enough evidence to believe he had something to do with the murder of the little girl, then they just go ahead and arrest him at that point and then everybody knows what he is.
LEVI PAGE: Everybody with us is Holly Hughes, she is a former prosecutor and defense attorney, a very well known attorney out of the Georgia jurisdiction in Atlanta, she has prosecuted and handled many, many violent crimes cases. She is very familiar with these types of cases. You know Holly what is interesting to me is that we are hearing now according to my sources that after Ron got his 15-years sentence, the detectives in this case made a Bee-line over to Misty Croslin, they got Misty Croslin and put her under a grueling cross-examination and apparently this had Misty upset, she was completely devastated about this. She was so torn up about this: this really got to her. She was crying to her mother and while her mother is not currently behind bars, although she was previously behind bars, she cried to her mother about this and apparently LE threatened her with murder charges and said that if you dont talk Misty, if you dont tell us what happened, you are going to go away for 50 years.
HOLLY HUGHES: Well okay, heres the thing. First of all, they are only telling her the truth because if they can develop enough information to put her involved in this little girls murder, I mean lets face it, she was the last person to see her, she didnt report her missing when it first happened, she waited till Ron got home to do anything about it. She was out-of-communication for a long time, I mean Ron made 90, 90, nine zero calls to the house? What the heck is that about? I mean obviously if she is not picking up the phone, shes not there so you know what, she is obviously so upset that you go looking for her, you get in the truck and leave work saying there has to be some sort of emergency and I have to go check on my family. So something is up and this is psychological warfare okay? She is watching everybody else in this case plead out and get their sentences. What she has always wanted is for Ronald to stick by her and Ron to be on her side, well now the fact that he got a pretty light sentence all things considered, its got to make her nervous, she has got to wonder what he said because he knows something and what she is doing now is sitting there going oh crap, Im by myself, Im on my own, the last person that I thought would turn on me, has turned on me, has given information to the Police. So she is as nervous as a cat on a hot tin roof and she ought to be.
LEVI PAGE: And I think what LE did, I know that a lot of people are outraged about this plea deal. They wanted Ronald Cummings to get the maximum, and believe me I would have liked nothing more, but what I think this plea deal is, is a strategy by LE to sort of drive a wedge between Misty and Ron, they want to drive this wedge between them because they have stuck together and this gets Misty nervous. This gets Misty wondering what is Ronald saying about me, Ronald my protector, who protected me from the Police, what is he saying about me? This gets Misty nervous and this could possibly get her to talk. This got her upset. She was whining to her mother. Do you think she is close to cracking?
HOLLY HUGHES: I think she may be because now she is getting the idea that she is out there on her own and as long as everybody keeps their mouth shut, nobody gets in trouble, because no one is talking, no one is saying anything but when you got a guy that is caught on video tape participating in drug trafficking and he is facing 70, 80 and 90 years and all of a sudden he walks away with a sweetheart deal of 15, let me tell you something that makes her wonder what has he said, what has he promised them, what has he told them, and why am I the last Mohican standing okay? She does not want to be out there on her own and she is going to begin to wonder if she has been thrown under the bus and quite frankly she should wonder because lets face it Levi, there is no honor amongst thieves okay. All the racks from a sinking ship, you know how they do that, they abandon once it starts to go down, well let me tell you something, this ship is sinking and
everybody is jumping off and Misty is going to be the last one on deck wondering about oh crap, am I going to go down with the ship? so yeah, she should be nervous. She absolutely should be upset. She should be wondering what Ron has told the police because let me tell you something, he doesnt have any loyalty to her, his loyalty is to save his own behind and if he thinks throwing her under the bus will get him something, hell do it. He already agreed he would testify against her in the drug trial.
LEVI PAGE: Apparently Holly, Mistys family is outraged. Theyre mad about this because they are saying Misty tell us what you know. They are even putting the pressure on Misty to tell what she knows.
HOLLY HUGHES: Right, because they care about her and they see the writing on the wall. I mean she may be too involved to see it, Misty may still have feelings for Ron and she thinks its going to be okay because he wouldnt say anything that would really get her into any trouble. They are standing on the outside and Misty has to wake up and smell the coffee, do you not see what is happening here? He is ratting your behind out. He is and the other thing I wanted to point out, I know people are upset that he didnt get the maximum, but here is the thing, he is going to do every day of that time, and 15 years is a long time to be sitting in prison because every day that he is sitting there in prison, the police are out there investigating that crime, and you know what the beauty of this is, none of these defendants are going anywhere, they are all going to be in prison, they are not going to be out there destroying any evidence they think might be left or silence any witnesses who may want to talk. Police are going to take advantage of that time, there is no statute of limitations on murder and they are going to keep working this case and keep working this case. None of these people are geniuses. Lets put it that way to be polite.
LEVI PAGE: No.
HOLLY HUGHES: So you know what? They did not commit the perfect crime. They are just not that smart so somewhere out there is evidence and sad to say it is eventually going to be the body of the little girl that we recover; so this will be solved. I dont have any doubt that this will be solved and in the meantime,
LEVI PAGE: It seems they are on the final stretches.
HOLLY HUGHES: That is exactly right and at least we know where the criminals are in the meantime.
LEVI PAGE: Yeah
HOLLY HUGHES: They are not out there hurting anybody else. Theyre not committing anymore crimes. They are sitting still and thinking about what they have done.
LEVI PAGE: Exactly right and Holly, what is interesting is that Chelsea Croslin, I just learned this before we went to air, is scheduled to go on Nancy Grace Monday night and she promises that she will blow the case wide open. Do you think that Misty could have said something to one of her family members, such as Chelsea Croslin, her sister-in-law, with whom she is very close to? I have seen them talk on those jailhouse videos, they seem very close, do you think she would tell her sister-in-law something that could be incriminating to either one of the players in this case such as herself, Ron, or Tommy?
HOLLY HUGHES: Yes absolutely. Let me tell you something. Do you know the only way two people can keep a secret Levi, if one of them is dead okay? People cannot keep secrets. When you are involved in something like this, I dont care how hard you are, or how bad assed you think you are, its going to weigh on you, its going to weigh on you okay? And Misty is not some genius criminal and I dont think she is a psychopath or sociopath either, I mean I dont think she would go out and kill anybody else. So that means that somewhere in there, there is a conscience and in there is the feeling that she needs to talk about this, she needs to get it off her chest, so I would not be surprised at all if she didnt say something to Chelsea and now that Chelsea is seeing the writing on the wall and seeing that the Cummings are selling out the Croslins, she just might be mad enough to spill the beans.
LEVI PAGE: Yes, because she has dropped nuggets out there in the past, little bitsy nuggets of information on various shows. Who knows if she was telling the truth or not. I mean obviously if you are in this family you got a little credibility problem. Everybody we are talking about the HaLeigh Cummings case, today a Judge brings down the gavel on Ronald Cummings and sentences him to 15 years despite his crying jags from his own mother who begged for leniency. The Judge didnt buy it; the Judge said Ronald is responsible for his own actions. Ron drug trafficking caught on video callously talking about how drug boys didnt kill his little girl HaLeigh who has been missing for a year and a half. No answers yet but it seems like we are getting some action in this case as Misty Croslin is interrogated, going through a brutal interrogation by the Putnam County Sherriffs Office. Misty Croslin threatened by the detective that if she does not give up information and give it up soon, she will be charged with murder and she will be facing 50 years behind bars. Are we close to getting answers in this case? I am Levi Page along with Holly Hughes. You know Holly, what do you think about this Joe Overstreet story? Do you think this has any credence to it? That he is involved?
HOLLY HUGHES: You know I really dont buy it. I really dont. Like we were talking about earlier Levi, if he was involved, would not that have been the first words out of your mouth? I mean you would immediately tell the cops this maniac is out there, he did this to this little girl, I tried to help but he beat me up, so you want to go arrest him and get him off the streets right now because I am so scared that he is going to come back and do something to the rest of us. When was the first time we heard Joe Overstreets name in connection with this investigation? Wasnt it like a year into it? Wasnt it like a substantially long time before anyone even came up with that?
LEVI PAGE: And not to mention this is what the billionth story that we have heard from Tommy and Misty because Misty Croslin at first said oh its the mothers side of the family, oh it was a strange and I dont know anything, No you do know what happened that night. And then we have Tommy Croslin saying I went over to the house and I knocked on the door and nobody was home. LE didnt buy that, LE strapped him up to a polygraph and he failed every polygraph he took, just like his sister. They know what happened that night. LE isnt buying it and then when they get thrown in jail, oh Joe did it.
HOLLY HUGHES: Exactly. Lets try and give them somebody else. Lets try and muddy the waters because clearly the lies weve told so far havent helped us. Yet I dont believe for a second what they are saying about Joe Overstreet, because it was about a year into the investigation that they even mentioned him and that is insane. If you are truly, truly, terrified of somebody, well okay, how come you are terrified of him a year later? I mean if you are terrified of him the entire time, why would you just a year later throw his name out there? Youre not still afraid? Did your fear dissipate? I mean, what happened? This apparently is the guy that has been victimizing and molesting you in your life and you have never reported him to the cops because you are so scared of him. Then he takes this little girl and snatches her and youre so afraid that you dont report it to the Police right away, but then a year later, youre like suddenly Im not afraid of him anymore. Yeah okay Ill tell you about it, it was Joe. What is that? What is that? Thats not even credible. Where is that story supposed to have come from? That is another sad attempt because the police arent buying the lies they have bandied around so far, so they are like well thats not working so lets try something else. Hey I know, lets throw Joe under the bus. No, no, I dont believe it. I would be very, very surprised if it turns out that he had anything to do with it, I really would. This doesnt even make sense; you cant get a machine gun so youre going to snatch a child? What? In what Universe?
LEVI PAGE: You are going to strangle the child because apparently the father humiliated you in front of everyone so you are going to go strangle his child and dump the child in you know the St. Johns River.
HOLLY HUGHES: Right, it just does not make sense. Now you all know crime doesnt make sense and there are some crazy people out there, but this story, I dont buy it.
LEVI PAGE: No, it doesnt make sense. It shows me that since Tommy Croslin got 15 years in prison, and they even remarked about how none of the information that he has given them has been credible, that LE isnt buying it either.
HOLLY HUGHES: Correct, absolutely. If they had any good information they would have solved this case by now so we know that everybody they have talked to thus far has not given them anything good.
LEVI PAGE: But it looks like the squeeze is working.
HOLLY HUGHES: Well, lets hope so. Lets hope she is feeling the alienation and realizes she better pony up soon.
LEVI PAGE: Yeah alright everybody, our guest is Holly Hughes. Holly thank you so much for being with us. It was great talking to you.
HOLLY HUGHES: Absolutely, and you too Levi.
LEVI PAGE: Everybody, next week we are going to be on and Nancy Grace is going to be on the Show and we are going to discuss her new show, Swift Justice, and get her thoughts on the HaLeigh Cummings case so tune in. I am Levi Page signing off, good night.
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