AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #20

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It was an Uncle's gf, how many uncles are there around in this area? Goodness...
 
johnQpublic said:
lol I'm sure whatever all she did was " adequate " enough to tamper with the evidence collection process.
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Anyone who starts cleaning up at a crime scene should be willing to accept that places them in the suspicious category. I would and I would also say that I was very foolish for doing that. One of t he main ways people clean up is going to the sink or the tub/shower for cripe sake.
 
I know how women think, aunt showed up, saw dirty dishes and thinks "oh dear people will be coming in the house we dont want them to see this mess." So she starts cleaning as nervous women do. Wasnt a good move but it is understandable. Should she be arrested for it, god no, some of you would like to arrest and throw everyone in jail for the slightest of things, good thing youre not in charge LOL. What a world that would be.
 
time said:
Yes ... still foolish. It is foolish - no matter what the intent or just lack of awareness of it. I'm not bludgeoning her, just saying it's a foolish thing to do whether it looks clear when it's done or in hindsight.

I happen to disagree, I do not think most people, even women, would start washing dishes when a child has been abducted. It's not like another crises where someone had an accident, etc.

I don't understand why we CAN'T say it's a foolish thing to do without it sounding like we are coming down too hard on this woman. :banghead:
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I'm providing a contrasting viewpoint, I never said you CAN'T say that.
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I don't disagree it was foolish, but understand how a person not savy to crime scenes would think she was helping by cleaning up the kitchen. Done addressing this, I agree to disagree :twocents:
 
SmoothOperator said:
This is crazy why In the hell-o can I not see.. get to.. open.. or download ANY Of THE 6 PDF of docs?
I have never had any issue opening.. reading.. downloading the pdfs ..why are they not even showing up at all but rather when I click on link. At any site it only takes me to blank page?

Help..I understand it doesnt work onapple products likemy iPhone but I have never had an issue reading and opening the PDF on my Android tablet?

Wtf? ..I even updated my adobe reader but still nothing.. anyone know why its not working on an OS THAT Is NOT apple iOS and has never had a prob reading PDF before now..

This is ultra frustrating!
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Yeah the same experience here...I think I posted this last night, but Im on my iPad and I have an app called iAnnotate PDF, not from adobe, but I have never had problems before and I'm always downloading PDFs. No luck here.

I was gonna go into lab today to read or at least download, but this is my last weekend off until August, so...I'm just going with the screencaps that other posters have been sharing. (TYVM to all who have!!!!) I feel kinda bad but I will be at least 60 days without a day off, so I'm staying away from work thru Tues!
 
emeraldeyes85 said:
I know how women think, aunt showed up, saw dirty dishes and thinks "oh dear people will be coming in the house we dont want them to see this mess." So she starts cleaning as nervous women do. Wasnt a good move but it is understandable. Should she be arrested for it, god no, some of you would like to arrest and throw everyone in jail for the slightest of things, good thing youre not in charge LOL. What a world that would be.
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Just a little off topic but, lol, my mother has a housecleaner that comes every two weeks. Before the cleaner gets there, my mother cleans. Now how freakin much sense does that make??:floorlaugh:
 
Help. I have a really basic Q. I haven't been paying attention for a few days, and now I see documents have been released!

Did LE give a briefing? Did they say why they have released these documents, for what purpose, why now, why the partial set of documents, anything? I'm trying to figure out what prompted this. TIA!
 
emeraldeyes85 said:
I know how women think, aunt showed up, saw dirty dishes and thinks "oh dear people will be coming in the house we dont want them to see this mess." So she starts cleaning as nervous women do. Wasnt a good move but it is understandable. Should she be arrested for it, god no, some of you would like to arrest and throw everyone in jail for the slightest of things, good thing youre not in charge LOL. What a world that would be.
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well there was a bloody knife found in her bf RR's truck so it's reasonable to say she could be an accomplice in some capacity.
 
emeraldeyes85 said:
I know how women think, aunt showed up, saw dirty dishes and thinks "oh dear people will be coming in the house we dont want them to see this mess." So she starts cleaning as nervous women do. Wasnt a good move but it is understandable. Should she be arrested for it, god no, some of you would like to arrest and throw everyone in jail for the slightest of things, good thing youre not in charge LOL. What a world that would be.
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Who said she should be arrested?

I'm sure she thought just what you said, but the point is she didn't think about the main point - a child was abducted and nothing should be messed with. That is all I am saying about the woman. There is nothing wrong with saying that as far as I can see.
 
mamamia54 said:
Just a little off topic but, lol, my mother has a housecleaner that comes every two weeks. Before the cleaner gets there, my mother cleans. Now how freakin much sense does that make??:floorlaugh:
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Your Mom and I have something in common
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emeraldeyes85 said:
I know how women think, aunt showed up, saw dirty dishes and thinks "oh dear people will be coming in the house we dont want them to see this mess." So she starts cleaning as nervous women do. Wasnt a good move but it is understandable. Should she be arrested for it, god no, some of you would like to arrest and throw everyone in jail for the slightest of things, good thing youre not in charge LOL. What a world that would be.
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Could be that. I also have another thought. When something gets me upset I cannot stop moving. I can accomplish a ton when I am angry/sad/worried/panicked. ....I am a whirling dervish and I could see picking up messes or washing dishes, etc....as a way to keep from breaking down.
 
DIRK SCHILLER said:
I have 2 questions, anyone can help me please?
1)did the police check whether the screen at the window has been moved from the inside to the outside of the house?
2)if you're going to wake up
your daughter
and do not find her what
's the first thing you would do
I´d like to know everyone´s opinion please
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In response to question 2, with a grain of salt because I have fur babies instead of human ones, if she wasn't in her room, I'd call around the rest of the house. Maybe if she had a favorite place to crash other than her bed, I'd check there. I'd probably check the kitchen, especially if I knew she hadn't had much to eat the night before, or if I had been preparing some food that she might follow her nose to. I'd probably check the bathroom. Of course, all this depends on how the house is laid out. I'd call the cops pretty quickly though! When I say "check," I mean "glance in." jmo.
 
TxLady2 said:
Me, neither. But I have heard people refer to the floor as the ground, as in saying they fell to the ground when they were in a house.
Ya never know.
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Yeah this is very common among Latin Americans for whom Spanish is the native language. They're used to using one word, suelo, for both ground and floor.
 
Boodles said:
Help. I have a really basic Q. I haven't been paying attention for a few days, and now I see documents have been released!

Did LE give a briefing? Did they say why they have released these documents, for what purpose, why now, why the partial set of documents, anything? I'm trying to figure out what prompted this. TIA!
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I think media requested them. I think they also requested the search warrants but a judge sealed them. Since LE isn't giving pressers anymore, I don't know if they will address any of the contents

If I were to guess what prompted it, it would be for LE to support the $1mil spent so far.
 
Okay, so SC said he woke up at 8am, woke boys and went to wake Isa up, she wasn't there, son sees screen is out. At 8am he was outside with another man, Moore said it was SC's brother when looking at the recording. That's the longest 8am I've ever heard of before. Anyway, I think LE got there around 8:30, so who knows who all was in the house and what all was cleaned before 8:30.
 
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