LA - ***ARREST*** Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette 19 May 2012 - #33

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paddleallday said:
I've been to Whiskey Bay (I always refer to it as Shreburne) many many many times, and have never been where the bike was dumped. I was also completely shocked to learn how slow and shallow it appeared to be where you took pictures of the fisherman with his granddaughter. Ive always assumed Whiskey Bay Pilot Channel moved more like the Mississippi. A little further up the road there is a spot with a bench to sit and it overlooks the channel. Certainly never thought it was swimmable (not that I would swim there, but if you had to, you could, whereas you don't have a chance in hell of making it across the Mississippi.). I have always thought there would be some kind of undertow. It looks that way on top of the water, but maybe that's because it's not as deep as I thought.

I do agree that it would take some force to get Mickey on the windshield/or over the truck, but if she was going 15mph (or less, or stopped) and the truck was going 15-20mph, it's not impossible. (the damage to the bike is spot on with that scenario, if the damage is mostly to the rear rim).I have no idea though. At this point it doesn't really matter. The guy is in jail. I hope he never gets out. I'm sick about this, and the more I learn about him makes it even worse. Ugh!
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Not sure if I understand you last paragraph.. IMO, for her to have been thrown onto the hood, there would have had to be a high speed differential. I don't think he would have wanted to hit her that hard. He seems to enjoy live victims. Also, I am struck by the info in his 1999 arrest that the victim told him she was a virgin and he said "I'm not going to take that from you." I'm saying that BSL seems to be a conflicted guy who still has a certain part of decency operating - but which gets overshadowed. The fact that he showed a certain amount of care for his earlier victim tells me that he likely wouldn't have tried to hit her hard enough to kill her - instead, hard enough to get her off her bike.

That's just my opinion, and maybe I'm off base. I don't see him as totally out of control....which to me would be hitting her hard enough to throw her up onto the truck and maybe kill her outright from the impact - but out of control enough to do this.

Re: Whiskey Bay.... I have never thought she was put there. The water is too shallow there near the bank, and he wouldn't have been able to get her out into the main channel, and I do think she would have been found. JMO.
 
paddleallday said:
I have serious doubts about BSL's mental issues are stemming from his military service. I think the way we treat our veterans is deplorable, considering what they give up for our country. I do think they need to be a little more careful as to whom they select to be in the service. I'm sure, at times, they feel they have to take who they can get, because who would want sign their life away, only to be denied basic veteran services upon returning from wherever. Sorry, but a guy like BSL should not be representing this country! There should be enough evaluations to weed out sociopaths like him.
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I 100% agree with you! :) you couldn't of said it better!
 
chicken fried said:
If he did that - you'd think he would be totally busted- the old GPS would show the trip to Texas. Seems to me that if he's trying to say it was stolen, he wouldn't want to chance being caught red-handed with that GPs unit - he'd have made good and sure that it burned up with the truck.
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I havea GPS unit. I use it almost every day. It is almost like my purse. It is personal, because I have the voice set the way I like it, my home set, etc. It takes a little bit of time to program it the way you want it. This is speculation, but I bet he did take the GPS out of the truck before he burned it. It is small and easy to carry and I bet he would use it in another vehicle. I believe I read somewhere that the girlfriend gave the GPS to the police (not sure).
 
chicken fried said:
If he did that - you'd think he would be totally busted- the old GPS would show the trip to Texas. Seems to me that if he's trying to say it was stolen, he wouldn't want to chance being caught red-handed with that GPs unit - he'd have made good and sure that it burned up with the truck.
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true, but i'm wondering if his main reason for getting rid of the truck was to hide blood, DNA type evidence for if his truck was ever searched. the fact that he bought the exact same truck was probably to pretend that it was the same truck and not have people he knew question him about his truck. i think he hoped that if anyone ever suspected him and searched his truck, they wouldn't need to "know" it was a new truck. so if they searched it, they wouldn't find anything. stupid, i know, but i think that's what he was thinking. same thing with the GPS. why burn your GPS if you are trying to pretend you are still driving the same truck
 
Isn't GPS pretty standard in newer vehicles? I mean installed in the vehicle.
 
In 2011 OnStar did announce that it would start retaining all the information collected by the GPS and internal system, so that it could be sold to third parties.[13] Although this data is supposed to be “anonymized”, it remains unclear exactly what they mean by this as it is extremely difficult to anonymize GPS data.[14]

"It retains all information so that it can be old to third parties". If everyone knew that when they bought Onstar Onstar could sell their tracking and other information collectig to third parties I doubt seriously anyone would subscribe. However -- this is exactly the point I have been trying to make to anyone who would listen for years. We are being tracked and that information is sold to "information miners". Yes, they have a file on you and for a price, the right price, they will sell it. And they sell it to some not-so-nice folks sometimes. So it is just one company. However--there are LOTS of companies doing this. Casinos take your photo in 3-D for facial recognition. When you walk into a Wal-Mart you are videotaped. Facial recognition is an extremely powerful tool and used A LOT. Okay, I will shut up with this final warning: They are watching you and they may not be who you think they are.
 
justwannahelp said:
and this makes sense with what the girlfriend's family says - that they got suspicious a few days after the pictures of the truck were released on the 26th. so if we guess that they called in on the 29th then LE and Abdella did a little digging to be sure and soon afterward the car dealership lady called in then Abdella did the article with The Advertiser then it all went silent. Then ACI was hired then let go due to LE not wanting him on BSL's tail since they were already trying to get their ducks in a row.
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wait-ACI was a paid PI on this case-who hired & fired him
I did not know this info
 
ktgirl said:
But the LPD chief basically did tell us that this cannot be Mickey on or under the bike by the Circle K, since he answered one of the reporter's who asked him where they believe Mickey was taken as "between St. Landry & St. Mary streets (I take that to mean the intersection of St. Landry & St. Mary) and Blackham Coliseum." The intersection of St. Landry & St. Mary is blocks up from the Circle K. So to me, that answers that question. Mickey made it to at least the corner of St. Landry & St. Mary before being hit and taken, so the Circle K pic of the DWT following behind Mickey cannot show us Mickey being hit.
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Correct. he's saying it happened past the hospital, whose property begins at St. Landry and St. Mary.
 
chicken fried said:
I don't know. This is still a big unanswered question for me - from the beginning. She should have been caught on HooptyCam, unless she was taken in the very short distance between Circle K and 216 St. Landry.
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I think maybe she was caught on "HooptyCam" (love it) and those pics just weren't released as LE didn't want DWT driver to know they had pretty much narrowed down where she was hit and then taken and that apparently there's other footage of DWT cruising around town in the areas around UL cruising for a victim. That would have been pretty scary for students and parents.
 
NOLAMAKEUPARTIST said:
I 100% agree with you! :) you couldn't of said it better!
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I would go as far to say that they should interview family members to be sure there are no pre-existing psychological issues that would interfere. My experience with family members returning from Iraq, etc. has not been a positive one and I find their ability to receive help from PTSD deplorable. Bad situation.
 
paddleallday said:
I have serious doubts about BSL's mental issues are stemming from his military service. I think the way we treat our veterans is deplorable, considering what they give up for our country. I do think they need to be a little more careful as to whom they select to be in the service. I'm sure, at times, they feel they have to take who they can get, because who would want sign their life away, only to be denied basic veteran services upon returning from wherever. Sorry, but a guy like BSL should not be representing this country! There should be enough evaluations to weed out sociopaths like him.
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In Louisiana they offer the "Louisiana Youth Challenge Program" I have mixed feelings about this "program" It is basically the last option for Juveniles before hitting the slammer, it's like military boot camp. Here is my thing though, I feel as though that this program is great because they are trying to make a change, but then again I feel as though this is a recruiting tactic, which then again proves from the beginning that the government has no selection process for our military personnel. JMO
 
aviatrix said:
I havea GPS unit. I use it almost every day. It is almost like my purse. It is personal, because I have the voice set the way I like it, my home set, etc. It takes a little bit of time to program it the way you want it. This is speculation, but I bet he did take the GPS out of the truck before he burned it. It is small and easy to carry and I bet he would use it in another vehicle. I believe I read somewhere that the girlfriend gave the GPS to the police (not sure).
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But he would have to be completely nuts to be found in possession of a GPS unit that was last reported seen in a stolen truck. If he were found with that GPS, it would show that HE burned the truck - and then game over, wouldn't it?
 
Since he knew he would be replacing the truck, I would be surprised if he bothered to "strip" it before burning it. He was in a mode to get of all traces of Mickey being in the truck, IMO, even more than traces of the accident. After all, he apparently did not burn it the very first day he had the accident so whatever damage the truck had was obviously not that bad, IMO.

I think that he killed Mickey in the truck and that is what he was so frantic about, as far as getting rid of evidence. The GPS probably would not have occurred to him. I mean, he obviously did not think ahead about the cameras all over the area when he decided to go ahead and abduct her.

I am not giving him any credit for being smart-I think the reason there is an arrest is because he is NOT smart.
 
chicken fried said:
Correct. he's saying it happened past the hospital, whose property begins at St. Landry and St. Mary.
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Is St. landry and St. Mary the corner where there are oyster shells on the side of the road? Because if it is, I suspect that the cut on his face is from an oyster shell.
 
aviatrix said:
I would go as far to say that they should interview family members to be sure there are no pre-existing psychological issues that would interfere. My experience with family members returning from Iraq, etc. has not been a positive one and I find their ability to receive help from PTSD deplorable. Bad situation.
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I know it's really a sad situation, my sister has been through HELL, what I find is that they just really want to medicate (suppress) their feelings
Rather than having therapy sessions.
 
justwannahelp said:
true, but i'm wondering if his main reason for getting rid of the truck was to hide blood, DNA type evidence for if his truck was ever searched. the fact that he bought the exact same truck was probably to pretend that it was the same truck and not have people he knew question him about his truck. i think he hoped that if anyone ever suspected him and searched his truck, they wouldn't need to "know" it was a new truck. so if they searched it, they wouldn't find anything. stupid, i know, but i think that's what he was thinking. same thing with the GPS. why burn your GPS if you are trying to pretend you are still driving the same truck
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I'm not sure he was trying to pretend it was the same truck. After all, he told the dealership his other one was stolen. You'd htink that he'd think that once the burned truck was found, they would come talk to him - and then does he want to have that GPS? Would there be a good reason at all to keep that GPS? I can't think of one benefit for him of keeping that GPS, but maybe I am overlooking some benefit?

One thing - I wonder if he filed a police report about the stolen truck?! That's a huge puzzle piece.
 
megsy said:
Isn't GPS pretty standard in newer vehicles? I mean installed in the vehicle.
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not really. i have a brand new 2011 honda with leather, seats that heat (didn't want that, but came with), a rear view back up camera, and some sort of blue tooth i pod wireless deal that i don't even use, and the blue tooth phone thing. but it doesn't have a built in GPS
 
Sorry for going off on a different subject. But I just felt that was somewhat correlated with bsl. Just thought I would bring that part up.
 
If they found his prints or dna on the bike, would that along him setting his truck on fire be enough to arrest him for murder?
 
BrownRice said:
http://www.dailyworld.com/article/20120706/NEWS01/207060316?nclick_check=1

Per this article above (posted originally a couple pages back), one of the neighbors said he had women living with him time to time. Hmmm...
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"I got a sex offender letter about him, but I don't know him. He's been living there for two or three years and I see him come and go on the weekends," neighbor Shirley said. Shirley declined to give her last name, because she said she feared for her family.

She said police arrived that afternoon and the sheriff told her that they were investigating an "accident that happened in Lafayette," and that she should not be scared.

Still, Shirley worried, especially because Lavergne and the woman who often lived with him seemed so unassuming and quiet.

"They mostly stick to themselves," she said. "He does drive a white truck."
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If the bolded part is true, I doubt Mickey was ever taken to his house...she was disposed of long before he went home on the morning of the 19th, and so was the bike, IMO.
 
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