GoingByMyGut
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Hey - I hope she is O.K. She'll be in my thoughts... the up-beat, positive ones!
Thanks, Gajonka. I appreciate the thought. :cheerful:
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Hey - I hope she is O.K. She'll be in my thoughts... the up-beat, positive ones!
MMQC - Did BF have a sister that Sylvia would have been close to, and also what kind of car did the BF drive.
Does anyone remember the date of the engagement announcement in the newspaper? Was it recently published before Sylvia disappeared? -And, had they ever broken off the engagement previously, and gotten back together?
Other than the location discrepancy, was the BF/Fs story consistent the night Sylvia disappeared? -I am supposing he was asked: What was the argument about that caused my daughter, sister, and friend to throw her glasses and storm out of the car on the highway? As I recall, MMQC has said he was angry. Was he angry at her familys house? Are there any specific words, or phrases, or places, or other events or people mentioned that stand out from that night?
It was mentioned that the BF/F was rude, hostile, and not helpful after a few days, but how did he leave things that night? Any plan of action on his part?
Was there any communication between Sylvias and the BF/Fs parents after her disappearance?
As for the GLASSES. I only learned about this on WS. As for questions? BF/F drove up in front of my house then asked me to go pick her up at bus on Rich. Ave. Then drove off. I don't recall him even going to the parents house that night. No time even to ask about fight he just drove off.
I don't recall the date of the Engagement Announcment in the newspaper. It was before graduation so it must have been spring of '75? Not really remembering it except the engagement party. No breakup that I know of.
Can you remember where the engagement party was held and who paid for it?
And why didn't he show interest?
For the woman he was going to marry.
How do you just walk away from a situation like this?
I know everyone reacts differently to stresses in life, but , really???
I can't find an explanation that works for me
JMO
I believe it was held at Ft. Wadworth and SL's family paid for it as it was held at the Fort.
MMQC - Do you recall if it was a big engagement party? --Over 50 people? Was it just both families and close friends, or did it include college, sorority, and band friends, as well?
On a small scale. I don't think it was even close to 50 people. I think EL had all the gifts still in the house. She asked me what to do with them. I had no clue. Don't know what was eventually done with them. SL's room to my knowledge was still the same as when she left. Although I did get my music books back one day. EL must have been going through the room and noticed that my name was in the books.
Slowly I'm getting back to normal.....what ever normal is anymore, who knows?
IF LE looked in the car, I am thinking there was nothing to see.
Blood would require an explanation, wouldn't it??
Hi MMQC, I'm wondering if the name Richard Biegenwald was ever mentioned in this case. My dad was stationed in New Jersey and we lived down at the shore at this time when she went missing. Two girls from our area were found buried in Biegenwald's mother's backyard in State Island. His m.o. was to pick up girls walking on the road after dark.
IIRC: I think he was mentioned in thread #1.
Question: Is a parole approval date the same as a release from prison date? It is possible he could have been on Staten Island with his mother in Sept. 1975?
"On March 12, 1974, Biegenwald was denied parole. Then, on Oct. 12, 1974, his parole was approved, effective June 12, 1975."
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb...Misc/Crime/Biegenwald/Biegenwald_Murders.html
On a small scale. I don't think it was even close to 50 people. I think EL had all the gifts still in the house. She asked me what to do with them. I had no clue. Don't know what was eventually done with them. SL's room to my knowledge was still the same as when she left. Although I did get my music books back one day. EL must have been going through the room and noticed that my name was in the books.
Slowly I'm getting back to normal.....what ever normal is anymore, who knows?
It was said that the true total of the Biegenwald victim count would never be known. A mother of one of the victims was taken to an evidence room to identify her daughter's jewelry. There was items placed out on several tables. The mother was astonished by the large amount of jewelry; when the mother asked how many victims were there she was told 'we may never know'. This was in the 80s; where is the evidence from then and have the police investigating this case seen that jewelry to compare? edit to add: One of the victims was from our neighborhood in NJ; unfortunately, her mom has passed so I can't contact her to find out what police department.Hi, Rose -- You are right. I remember going back and forth with JMoose over these dates in thread 1 bc I got confused by them too. The "approval" date is not the same as the "release" date, but I believe the "effective" date is. So yes, it seems he would have been out of prison by mid-June 1975, doing who knows what. I think both he and Andre Rand could have been roaming/stalking Staten Island at the time SI disappeared. The only thing that troubles me about Biegenwald is that the bodies of his victims tended to be found; he was not as careful about disposal as Rand, whose victims truly "disappeared."
It was said that the true total of the Biegenwald victim count would never be known. A mother of one of the victims was taken to an evidence room to identify her daughter's jewelry. There was items placed out on several tables. The mother was astonished by the large amount of jewelry; when the mother asked how many victims were there she was told 'we may never know'. This was in the 80s; where is the evidence from then and have the police investigating this case seen that jewelry to compare? edit to add: One of the victims was from our neighborhood in NJ; unfortunately, her mom has passed so I can't contact her to find out what police department.
It was said that the true total of the Biegenwald victim count would never be known. A mother of one of the victims was taken to an evidence room to identify her daughter's jewelry. There was items placed out on several tables. The mother was astonished by the large amount of jewelry; when the mother asked how many victims were there she was told 'we may never know'. This was in the 80s; where is the evidence from then and have the police investigating this case seen that jewelry to compare? edit to add: One of the victims was from our neighborhood in NJ; unfortunately, her mom has passed so I can't contact her to find out what police department.