Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - #11

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Eurohunter1185 said:
Hi, and thank you for the invite, zwiebel. OK, so you ask about the places in the Caribbean that a Dutch born person with multilingual skills/US residency would feel most at home.

As you may be aware, there were two groups of islands in the Caribbean which used to be under Dutch Control, but now, not all of them are. Together, they formed an autonomous country. There were a majority of Dutch speakers on these islands, Aruba, Bonaire and Curaçao (the ABC group) and Sint Maarten, Saba and Sint Eustasius (the SSS group) - combined, they were known as the Netherlands Antilles/Nederlandse Antillen.

Aruba is now independent, Curaçao and Sint Maarten are constituent countries of the Netherlands, and the rest of the islands are special overseas municipalities of the Kingdom of the Netherlands.

As for which places would be most likely to feel at home for the subject, your likeliest target would be Sint Maarten, which is the US Virgin Islands, and (being a constituent country of the Netherlands) would fall under their extradition treaty with the US (ratified by Sint Maarten in October 2010). Unlike most extradition treaties, anything between the Netherlands and the rest of the world (where treaties exist) is generally pretty swift, taking no more than 6 months to a year at most.

The other place with a possibility of a target would be the Bonaire special municipality - it depends on their multilingual skills, but Bonaire has 3 languages in daily use, Dutch, Papiamentu and English. It's also a pretty nice place to hang if you are trying to stay under the radar.
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Thank you again for the very useful information. Some of these places sound like wonderful destinations. A great place to 'get away from it all' with a girlfriend, for example.

Only if they don't know you might be coming, of course.
 
They should really take away his passport and keep those children away from him.
 
ASPD/psychopath: (from psychcentral)

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Individuals with Antisocial Personality Disorder frequently lack empathy and tend to be callous, cynical, and contemptuous of the feelings, rights, and sufferings of others.

They may have an inflated and arrogant self-appraisal (e.g., feel that ordinary work is beneath them or lack a realistic concern about their current problems or their future) and may be excessively opinionated, self-assured, or cocky.

They may display a glib, superficial charm and can be quite voluble and verbally facile (e.g., using technical terms or jargon that might impress someone who is unfamiliar with the topic).

Lack of empathy, inflated self-appraisal, and superficial charm are features that have been commonly included in traditional conceptions of psychopathy and may be particularly distinguishing of Antisocial Personality Disorder in prison or forensic settings where criminal, delinquent, or aggressive acts are likely to be nonspecific.


These individuals may also be irresponsible and exploitative in their sexual relationships
 
I am so happy that we have three children safe and sound in this case. Unlike the thread where our kind friends have come from, where two little boys cannot be saved.

I think we have to do everything - absolutely everything - we can here, to make sure Jennifer's children stay safe and happy. Everybody should co-operate with that. Whichever side they are on. Whoever they support.
 
zwiebel said:
I am wondering if some of our posters from the Nederlands might be able to give us an idea of which islands in the Caribbean a Dutch-born, multilingual, US resident would feel most at home. And if any of them have extradition processes that go on for years and years and years.

I've invited them in. Give them a warm welcome if they arrive folks.
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Aruba, Curaçao, Sint Maarten, Saba, Sint Eustatius, Bonaire.
Or did you want to have it narrowed down to just one name?

YW
 
Thanks, ib3x. No, individual names are great. The more details we have, the better. We don't have much of the background before the man who has been charged came to the US. This is very helpful.
 
zwiebel said:
Thank you again for the very useful information. Some of these places sound like wonderful destinations. A great place to 'get away from it all' with a girlfriend, for example.

Only if they don't know you might be coming, of course.
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I don't think it quoted what you quoted... But on this topic....
I thought I read he didn't have a passport but had enhanced drivers license. Makes me nervous. Many cruiselines go to those Caribbean locations. We have been to many suggested... Aruba, Curaçao, St Thomas, etc. . He could easily take a cheap cruise (last minute even cheaper) since with an enhanced drivers license you can sail into these places (not fly). From there he would have hours to go anywhere on the island before he was due back to the ship and even then they dont wait indefinately for passengers. Not to mention the number of people who vanish off cruise ships. :eek: I don't think he could take the kids with him but I'm not sure. I know normally you would have to have a note from the other parent saying its okay. However, he probably isn't above forging one a
D who knows maybe a death certificate would suffice.
:twocents:
 
zwiebel said:
I am wondering if some of our posters from the Nederlands might be able to give us an idea of which islands in the Caribbean a Dutch-born, multilingual, US resident would feel most at home. And if any of them have extradition processes that go on for years and years and years.

I've invited them in. Give them a warm welcome if they arrive folks.
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Curaçao because every criminal feels at home over there, they use it as hide out and to lay low often, and it is also the most corrupt island in the carebean to the best of my knowledge, so almost everything would be for sale including a free pass.
 
Just Wow! Checked in tonight for the wonderful updates you girls and guys provide on this case and see the awesome news. I had grown weary of the long process(ashamed) but never gave up hope.

Rest easy beautiful Jennifer. Your angels on earth will demand justice, provide love and comfort to your children and make sure you are never forgotten.

*Sucks to be you Remy*
 
ib3x said:
Curaçao because every criminal feels at home over there, they use it as hide out and to lay low often, and it is also the most corrupt island in the carebean to the best of my knowledge, so almost everything would be for sale including a free pass.
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Oh no. Is that one of the destinations Ganesh could go with his documentation, does anyone know? The 'enhanced drivers licence', I think?
 
Just in case anyone wanted info about the ehanced DL: http://www.dhs.gov/enhanced-drivers-licenses-what-are-they

State-issued enhanced drivers licenses (EDLs) provide proof of identity and U.S. citizenship, are issued in a secure process, and include technology that makes travel easier. They provide travelers with a low-cost, convenient alternative for entering the United States from Canada, Mexico or the Caribbean through a land or sea port of entry, in addition to serving as a permit to drive.
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It was a public here in most of Europe today. Was it the same in the US? Could that be why bail hasn't been posted yet, or is is possible Ganesh really can't raise bail? I hope so!
 
zwiebel said:
Oh no. Is that one of the destinations Ganesh could go with his documentation, does anyone know? The 'enhanced drivers licence', I think?
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I think he can go to any island in the carebean if he wanted to on those documents islands like Curacao are "discrete" and I don't mean that in a good way. If you have money you can buy your own private police escort there.

Can you explain to me what is the deal exactly about this case and what information is asked from the public, I read some about it but I thought the kids where found alive and the body of the mother was also recovered and I read the husband had been arrested.

Also does this person have a dual nationality? Like is he a US citizen and a Dutch citizen because they allow dual nationality or two nationalities in the Netherlands but I am not sure if the US allows that also, I know Canada does.

If he still has a Dutch citizenship also and born in the Netherlands it isn't far fetched or hard to travel from the carebean islands to the Netherlands since a couple of those islands where controlled by the Netherlands not so long ago.

The Netherlands supports some of these islands financially so they still have descent polictical connections and influence over there.

The Dutch also won't extradite people to the US easily, you'd have to be an al qaida terrorist, the Dutch wouldn't allow some major Dutch cyber criminals to be extradited to the States for example.
 
Not to sound über paranoid and no disrespect meant but this thread is starting to look like "What To Do & Where To Go If You're A Criminal And Need To Flee The Country On Limited Credentials"
 
zwiebel said:
Thank you again for the very useful information. Some of these places sound like wonderful destinations. A great place to 'get away from it all' with a girlfriend, for example.

Only if they don't know you might be coming, of course.
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zwiebel said:
Oh no. Is that one of the destinations Ganesh could go with his documentation, does anyone know? The 'enhanced drivers licence', I think?
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Most definitely. Can't drive to there but can surely hop on a cruise ship right in NYC to get there. As I said up thread I am not sure if he'd be able to get the kids on board. And with five of them it will make getting a room tricky. Though, if he leaves the gf home a inside (cheapest) room will sleep four.
 
Do drivers licenses get flagged that your awaiting trial or a suspect in a murder- anything like that? I find it really naive that the defense attorney would say he doesn't have a passport only an enhanced license.... The enhanced license can get him in Canada too. Not too far a drive. He may not beable to fly into another country with it but he has other options having the enhance license. I also find it naive that he thinks a ankle bracelet would keep him in line. Sickens me considering what happened here a couple months ago. A young girl raped and her mother murdered by a sexual predator with an ankle bracelet that was removed. Save the ankle bracelets for thieves; murderers and rapists need be behind bars! :moo:



ETA surely GR knows about this recent murder case because it was all over the news. Of course he volunteered to wear an ankle bracelet. He knows what little good they are.
 
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