GUILTY OH - Elaina Steinfurth, 17 months, Toledo, 2 Jun 2013 - #2

momrids6 said:

You know I <3 you.... I did not say she or my kid were not easily manipulated;
Your kid and mine are loving and kind. I do not see that in her. I said I did not see "challenges".... ie. mental defect....

I see immaturity and a lack of any interest at all in anyone but herself while in court

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Drogers7 said:

There has been some speculation that the police have SK in a safe house due to threats... That would be one way to keep their eye on him.... All speculation though (not sure if that's allowed??)

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southsleuth said:

Wonder if SK is safely tucked away in rehab again?

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kscornfed said:

i'm late coming to this case and am trying to catch up. it was my understanding that the father said angela and the baby weren't supposed to be at that house.
does anyone know any more about that? had there been a problem with elaina and this BF before?

angela sure was upset over her arrest----far more than she was about her child being 'missing.' she knows what happened and the police probably consider her the weak link that will break and finally tell them what happened to elaina and where she is. i think angela knows everything.

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dizzigirl1 said:

When i talked about "8th grade mentality", i was talking about how we can behave at 14. Some people never grow out of the selfish teenage behaviours growing up that we can have. We all have different ways of describing things. That is the way i see AM. Selfish, attention seeking & can be easily manipulated with male attention. I also think she freaked in whatever situation she was presented with at the time & wasn't capable of rational thought just followed whatever she was told to do in that 20 mins. Self preservation mode has probably kicked in now & she's possibly trying to justify her behaviour to herself and anyone who will listen to deflect blame from her bad choices that sadly have probably resulted in an outcome that she would never have wanted. While i dont believe for a second i would ever be in that situation i have tried to put myself in hers to try to understand how it could possibly happen. Her former husband is trying to do that himself so for now, until there is real evidence of bad intentions on her part, i want to be someone who gives her a bit of the benefit of doubt & try to understand the situation she put herself & her babies in. Definitely dont like that her bubba is missing & want her found & that she has behaved in an incredibly stupid dangerous way, so its a good thing she has timeout locked up. Sorry for the ramble this situation just makes my blood boil because i think that she shouldn't be the only one locked up.

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SCHMAE said:

Hi Eileen! You just gave me a thought I haven't seen mentioned. BBM, does anyone know, ( Ferretmommy maybe you ) if TJ was early to pick the kids up ? Generally a visit ends around 6 pm on sundays or that is standard in most court orders, which I think there were not any in place yet. But why didnt' they HIDE Elaina before TJ got there ? Why wait unless they A ) weren't expecting him for a few more hours or B ) thought that he would just go away if Elaina was napping, thus buying them some more time. I wonder if they thought 'what do we do now' and assumed they had a few more hours to figure it out and he showed up early or unexpectedly. Has anyone heard?

ETA My point is it seems stupid to wait until TJ is on the scene to come do all this looking, crying, kidnapping, etc. story. Why not do it an hour earlier and then TJ does not see anyone going out the back, etc. Just seems a last minute plan and if so, why right then? Ohhhh, maybe I just stumbled onto it.Maybe Elaina got hurt earlier and they put her down for a nap, went to get her when TJ arrived and then realized she was hurt worse than they realized and have to now come up with a plan on the spot? Angela stalled him with the nap story so he would not see the eye and nose but didnt' really think baby was ..... fill in the blank with a word of your choosing. I can't type it right now.

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SCHMAE said:

Well it sounds to me like we need to know Mike's last name so we can figure out where he lives / has lived and see what that looks like in terms of a hiding place. Is that considered sleuthing a non POI ? Mods?
He's not named as a poi or suspect but family members on BOTH sides of Elaina's family have put HIM with HER as the last one(s) with her .

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swanniee11 said:

there is a link with all the news interviews etc. I can't think of where i saw it. My sister and I were talking about Elaina last night and she wanted me to forward the interviews. I was hoping someone here can point me in the right direction. TIA

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Salem said:

Jumping off your post, SCHMAE.


Also - the same goes for the owners of the houses searched. Do NOT post their names here. At this point in time, none of these folks have been reported in MSM and there does not appear to be a connection to the case, aside from the fact that they owned a house that was searched.

Thanks!

Salem

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ACandyRose said:

http://www.tmc-clerk.com/caseinformation/

Middle initial "B", birth year 1972.

Let's just say he's not somebody I'd want my kid hanging around with !!

And he's obviously "hell on wheels" if you get the drift !

ACR

edited to add.. if you're wondering if you got the right person in the court records, check case # TRD-11-28479-0404.. 12/21/2011 and there's a .pdf doc to download that shows this person lives a the same address on Federal where his cousin Steven King lives. ;-)

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