Hello WS
This will sound crazy in of itself but I have known more sociopaths/narcissists in my life than non sociopaths/narcissists. Mostly, I am speaking of my family but I include a number of bosses my husband has had and a few of my own.
My husband is the only person in my life that is not this way. Other family members that are not sociopaths or narcissists are affected by the narcissists/sociopaths to the degree that because I don't "play along" or "learn to keep my mouth shut/get along" with the sociopaths: they have nothing to do with me.
When I came to Websleuths I found a bunch of other people who understand and can see through the "normal" behavior of narcissists and sociopaths, I have found some validation for the "diagnosis" I have given my family members. Explaining to someone what is "so horrible" about my family would be as complicated and long as explaining to someone unfamiliar with the Anthony case why some are of the opinion that Cindy is a narcissist at best and a sociopath at worse.
The mind games and passive aggressive behavior Cindy has toward Casey is all too familiar to me and when reading Cindy's words or seeing her in the media, I know exactly what she is up to and doing...it is (sorry)wonderful for me to be validated by people such as Dr. Glass and many other people(by their comments on the internet).
I have never been afraid of that "stranger" that looks like a bum and is wandering around...to me what there is to be afraid of, very afraid of is the "normal" person. The dance that Casey and Cindy are engaged in...I walked away from with my mother. In her eyes, we were to be locked in battle till the day one of us died: as she was with her mother. And Cindy and Casey are locked in this battle until the day one of them die, ahem.
Cindy says being a liar does not make you a murderer. So what? Lying, in of itself is not the trait of a good person. Period. The fact that Cindy defends lies and "mistruths" goes a long way in explaining how she justifies
her lies, and that
she knows she lies but still wants to be seen as a good person.
The language or speech patterns are all too familiar to me. I agree there is a commonality in the behavior and speech of a sociopath/narcissist. I was drawn to this case because of Caylee but in watching Casey and Cindy all I can say is "that is my family!" Except in my family my mother worked it into us all(three children)so that none of us has had any children. The youngest is my brother and he is in his mid thirties and by his own words never wants to have children. My sister has had several abortions(I am only speaking of my sister and my experience I am making no political statement regarding abortion)and in my opinion my sister did it to "spite" my Mother(ETA: she may have made up the stories to upset my mom, but she told my brother who told the family just as Casey claims to have told Lee about a miscarriage and he told Cindy, either way my sister hates my mother, actively openly and makes no qualms about it and has since she was a young girl). It may sound crazy that I say my mother trained us to not have children and that my sister making sure that was so...was "spite" towards my Mother. It would seem she was doing what our Mother wanted but that is the kind of deep confusing behavior you deal with when you deal with sociopaths.
That the word "spite" comes up in the Anthony case is a good example of why I think there is a language or speech pattern at work with sociopaths. Saying we were doing things "just to spite her" was a favorite of my mothers. Almost every person I have in my family, and in my husband's family lie all the time. On any given day, they may say one thing and then later on say the opposite and if you confront them: boy look out!
I notice when Cindy is upset, Casey has the attitude, "why is she crying?" And, when Casey is upset Cindy has the attitude, "well, you brought this on yourself sweetheart." And the "sweetheart"...well, in sociopath speak: that means nothing other than a cut as Cindy has her non reaction to Casey being upset. In a mother daughter sociopath dance: each tries to get a reaction out of the other, my mother never seemed happier than when I was crying and upset. She would smile, laugh at me and mock my tears telling me how I brought whatever it was on myself.
IMO, Caylee was not too young to be affected by the insane behavior of her family. She had no friends, Casey put her in her "pen" while she entertained boys. The mind games that were no doubt already being played on Caylee would have only grown worse as the years went by, it is NOT better that Caylee left this world and did not have to grow up "with all this stuff" as Casey opined in one of her letters to Robyn. For all the pain of growing up as I did, everyone deserves their life(need I say that? not to non sociopaths, of course)and it's a horrible tragedy that Caylee didn't get the chance to grow up and walk away from her family. Caylee was not like them, Cindy knows that, Casey knew that, George and Lee knew that...and imo, that was what was most dangerous for Caylee and why her life was taken(even before it was TAKEN)from her by her (I use these terms loosely) mother and grandmother.
Women like my mother, Cindy and Casey all use the cover of "loving mother" to hide what they are. In fact, Cindy thinks she was a wonderful mother, nurturing and protective and calls Casey a "perfect mother" because that is how they want to be seen not how they really are. People are of the opinion that all mothers love their children and in my experience this is just not so...children don't have to be abducted to be in the control of sick people who only want to hurt them.
IMHO, they are all the same. They all act exactly the same, there
is such a thing as "sociopathic" behavior and speech.
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