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Please forgive me if I'm asking silly questions. I have said that I am new and new to hearing about this case, which is fascinating to me for many personal reasons, which I won't state here. While some of you have been studying this case for months or years, its new to me, so please have patience with me.
I am wondering if people are generally consistent with the belief that the girl dancing in the woods and with the helmet on are the same person as the one doing the back bend in the photo?
Thanks for anyone who will answer this question for me.
How do you know this photo was altered by LE? There really is no point in continuing to argue this point. What difference does it make, unless someone is trying to look through all the missing persons sites to find a match. I haven't seen much interest in that, just interest in the fact this is a rather disturbing and fascinating photograph.
I TOTALLY agree! But, he's definitely not the first one to live this way and won't be the last. Gary Ridgway (The Green River Killer) has probably dozens of other women he's killed and no one knows about...but he doesn't even have the death penalty. That's the way our stupid legal system works.
I personally think that every person who has killed another (especially children) should be given the same death that they gave their victims. This is only a dream on my part...would never happen. But, I bet it would curb our murder rate just a bit!
1) Why did LE release this photo? Assuming there is a reason behind the photos they listed why would they release this photo when it clearly doesnt offer much in the way of indentifying the person? The face is upside down and mostly covered and there is nothing in the background that would really help figuring out who this person was - the only reasons I can think of that they would release this photo are as follows:
This one photo was the only photo that showed this person in Alcala's "stash" so they had no other choice than to release the one photo they had access to. This seems unlikely given that Alcala seemed to take numerous photos of the people he photographed - not just one. (Its possible that there was a complete set but for whatever reason Alcala only kept this one in his locker.)
Can anyone else think of reasons why they would only release this one photo?
Hi all! I have never posted in this forum but have been following along and reading all of your great ideas.
I find this photo sooooo disturbing but I can't seem to let it go. I blew it up even larger and found something of interest that I wanted to share as I am sure you all have better trained eyes from studying these pics than myself.
I found this by enlarging the pic on post #11 of this thread. You can enlarge the pic by holding your ctrl button and pressing the plus button over and over. Use the ctrl and minus button to return to your normal size.
Anyway, I blew it up to about 300 percent and I noticed something in this persons hair that I think could be one of those plastic headbands that is hanging askew or some type of hair clip. It is difficult to see because it is brown.
Place your finger on the tip of that leaf over the eye and follow the direction of that leaf over the forehead and into the hair area and you will see circles sort of like this. O-O
ARe my eyes just playing tricks on me or does anyone else see this? It is really bothering me. TIA for you input.
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wm
WH, I think I am seeing something different from you which is south and west of the "W' in this pic. I do see the W or LV that you speak of, but below and to the left of that is where I am seeing the headband/hair accessory.
IDK, I may be seeing things but it reminds me of one of those plastic headbands from that time period. It isn't solid but has cutouts in the center. Kind of like a circular/serpentine design.
I was hesitant to even bring this up as I recall sleuths reviewing photos of the remains site in the Caylee case and everyone saw kittens.
I do find comfort that I am not the only person who sees something in that mass of hair! thanks,
wm
ETA After taking yet another look at the photo, could that be part of a chain that I am seeing?
My guess is that Alcala is carrying this deceased victim on his back, and Alcala has lowered his knees to toss the body over a cliff perhaps into water. Since instant cameras were invented maybe Alcala timed the action. The hair seemed matted. Like the person may have died a day or so.
In some pics there is a person don/t know if male or female with bangs, dark circle around eyes and reddish blonde hair could this be the person. Or the girl in the flowery top.
The vast majority of them believe that this is a male and every one of them believed this is a live person simply doing a back bend. It is NOT the female dancing in the woods because there is a photo of her with her arms up and there is no arm pit hair. This person had a fair amount of pit hair. They also mentioned that this person is muscular and more masculine in facial structure.
I don't agree with the theory that this is a photo of someone dead. There would be some lividity if that were the case. The facial color looks pretty even ...
... with the exception of the reddening of the forehead, which is consistent with a live person being upside down.
The person in question is almost certainly doing a back bend. You can see the shadows and thus the direction of the sun, and anything the person could be slung over would be casting a shadow onto the ground.
The person doing the back bend is not dead. Everything to me says back bend. The flush in the face, the strain in the neck, the head is held slightly up, and the eye that we can see is looking straight forward (relative to the ground, which looks like it's looking up relative to the head).
Also the position of the arms with the elbows facing forward says back bend (a relaxed position of someone dead would likely have the elbows facing more outward).
I also found the theory on the web slueth website that the person to had a head gash seems unlikely. Looks far more to me like the hairline, with many hairlines cutting inward like that at the temple (combined with jpeg compression in the photo and some bad color).