GUILTY GA - Eight family members brutally murdered in Brunswick home, 29 Aug 2009

11:30 a.m.

Judge Stephen Scarlett allowed defense lawyer Newell Hamilton Jr. to make a supplmental opening statement three days after his first. Hamilton said police showed "a total indifference in the collection of evidence."

Hamilton said that Gail Pierce, the former manager of New Hope Mobile Park where the slayings occurred, had told police about a month after the slayings she had found what appeared to be a pair of bloody nunchucks made of pipe secured with a chain.

The testimony of Pierce, who was Gail Montgomery at the time, will be the only word because investigator Mike Owens didn't bother to check out her report, Hamilton said.
The jury will hear a tape of Priest's call to Owens in which she said lead sinkers fell from the pipes and asked if it were something police would be interested in.

"He said that sounds like something we would be interested in,'' Hamilton said.
The defense only heard about it last week after hearing that Priest had asked the prosecutors, "What about the bloody nunchucks?" Hamilton told the jury.

She made the same call about a framing hammer, he said.

Priest had been accused of lying, but a tape was later found that confirmed the telephone call she made to police.

Once he was questioned this week, Owens said he didn't remember the call, even though he verified it was his voice on the phone, nor did he remember sending any investigator to check out the item Priest found, Hamilton said.

Capt. Randy Austin, a detention officer at the Glynn County jail, said he and the jail administrator at the time turned over Heinze's clothing to Glynn County police investigator Mike Owens in response to a search warrant Owens had secured.


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11:30 a.m.

Judge Stephen Scarlett allowed defense lawyer Newell Hamilton Jr. to make a supplmental opening statement three days after his first. Hamilton said police showed "a total indifference in the collection of evidence."

Hamilton said that Gail Pierce, the former manager of New Hope Mobile Park where the slayings occurred, had told police about a month after the slayings she had found what appeared to be a pair of bloody nunchucks made of pipe secured with a chain.

The testimony of Pierce, who was Gail Montgomery at the time, will be the only word because investigator Mike Owens didn't bother to check out her report, Hamilton said.
The jury will hear a tape of Priest's call to Owens in which she said lead sinkers fell from the pipes and asked if it were something police would be interested in.

"He said that sounds like something we would be interested in,'' Hamilton said.
The defense only heard about it last week after hearing that Priest had asked the prosecutors, "What about the bloody nunchucks?" Hamilton told the jury.

She made the same call about a framing hammer, he said.

Priest had been accused of lying, but a tape was later found that confirmed the telephone call she made to police.

Once he was questioned this week, Owens said he didn't remember the call, even though he verified it was his voice on the phone, nor did he remember sending any investigator to check out the item Priest found, Hamilton said.

Capt. Randy Austin, a detention officer at the Glynn County jail, said he and the jail administrator at the time turned over Heinze's clothing to Glynn County police investigator Mike Owens in response to a search warrant Owens had secured.


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Well this pisses me off highly how LE mishandled this but I don't think these weapons caused the injuries sustained. The ME said the pattern was done by something long, thin, and cylindrical.

These weapons (nunchcucks connected with a chain and a hammer) would leave distinct patterns on the body. The hammer would leave deep circle depression fractures wherever it hit the head or body and the nunchuck with chain would also leave that pattern on the head and body because the chain also would hit the body when swung.

If they were found under this 40+ year old trailer they easily could have rust on them. Rust looks just like dried blood and Priest is no forensic tech but LE should have checked it out anyway.:banghead:
 
1:22 p.m.

Georgia Bureau of Investigation forensic biologist Barbara Retzer showed the jury photos Heinze's clothing and showed them where areas of them had tested positive for blood.

She also testified that the soles of the sandals did not test positive for blood. Police said Heinze told them he walked through the trailer and found his slain father and eight others, all of whom he thought had been beaten to death. Police have described the interior as having blood spattered throughout and that some of the dead had died where they had lain sleeping on the floors.

She showed the jurors a pair of khaki pants taken from Heinze and indicated eight areas where they had tested positive for blood.

Retzer testified she collected cuttings from those pants and swabbings, cuttings or both from a pair of blue pants, underwear and shorts. and a pair of shorts.

Under cross-examination from Hamilton, Retzer testified that she didn't know how any of the items came to have blood on them.

Hamilton also elicited testimony from Retzer on cross-contamination, a point he brought out as a defense in his opening statement, and asked if it could occur when evidence was all packaged in the same bag.

Asked about blood evidence being cross-contaminated, Retzer said none would occur if the blood had dried.

The clothing was taken from Heinze hours after he claimed to have gone into the bloody trailer.

"If the blood is dried, it's going to be difficult to transfer to another item,'' she said as Hamilton persisted in his questioning.

"We insist on before we get it, the items are dry,'' and also that it be placed in a plastic bag so mold won't grow on it in a humid environment, Retzer testified.


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A shotgun came into the GBI's Savannah crime lab Aug. 31, two days after the slayings, which she swabbed for DNA samples, O'Malley-Fripp testified.

She collected samples from stains on the stock, barrel, the trigger and near the hammer, O'Malley-Fripp testified.

The test on one blood sample from the shotgun was unsuccessful, but the successful tests showed the blood was that of Russell Toler Sr., O'Malley-Fripp testified.

O'Malley-Fripp also tested the stock of a shotgun that police said was found in the mobile home near the head of Russell Toler Sr.

Both the right and left side of the gunstock were spattered with blood, O'Malley-Fripp said, and she swabbed and analyzed them.

The DNA from the three samples matched the blood of Russell Toler Sr., she testified. Under questioning by Assistant District Attorney John B. Johnson, O'Malley-Fripp testified the blook on the gunstock was spattered and was not a smear.

She also analyzed a knife that had been found in the living room by a couch, which had blood on the blade. The DNA from that blood matched the DNR profile of Russell Toler Jr. Wednesday, medical examiner Edmund Donoghue, testified that Russell Toler Jr. had been stabbed after he was beaten to death.


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... What is a blook?
 
2:15 p.m.

Kristen O'Malley-Fripp, a forensic biologist and DNA analyst, said she has been on the Heinze case since the Labor Day weekend of 2009 when the first evidence arrived from the slayings of eight Glynn County residents.

A shotgun came into the GBI's Savannah crime lab Aug. 31, two days after the slayings, which she swabbed for DNA samples, O'Malley-Fripp testified.

She collected samples from stains on the stock, barrel, the trigger and near the hammer, O'Malley-Fripp testified.

The test on one blood sample from the shotgun was unsuccessful, but the successful tests showed the blood was that of Russell Toler Sr., O'Malley-Fripp testified.

O'Malley-Fripp also tested the stock of a shotgun that police said was found in the mobile home near the head of Russell Toler Sr.

Both the right and left side of the gunstock were spattered with blood, O'Malley-Fripp said, and she swabbed and analyzed them.

The DNA from the three samples matched the blood of Russell Toler Sr., she testified. Under questioning by Assistant District Attorney John B. Johnson, O'Malley-Fripp testified the blook on the gunstock was spattered and was not a smear.

She also analyzed a knife that had been found in the living room by a couch, which had blood on the blade. The DNA from that blood matched the DNR profile of Russell Toler Jr. Wednesday, medical examiner Edmund Donoghue, testified that Russell Toler Jr. had been stabbed after he was beaten to death.

She also examined blood found on a cell phone. That blood was that of Joseph West, the boyfriend of Chrissy Toler.




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3:03 p.m.

Guy Heinze Jr.'s shorts, that forensic biologist and DNA analyst Kristen O'Malley-Fripp described as gray-black and reversible, arrived at the Georgia Bureau of Investigation crime lab Sept. 2, she testified.

She found blood on four areas of the shorts, did DNA analysis on sample cuttings and found two to be the blood of Russell Toler Sr. and the others to be the blood of Michael Toler and Chrissy Toler.

A swabbing of blood from a paper document taken from the trailer had the blood of Russell Toler Sr., she said.

She also did DNR analyses of swabbings that forensic biologist Barbara Retzer did on sandals that police took from Heinze at the jail.

One swabbing from the sandals matched the blood of Joseph West and another matched Guy Heinze Sr.

One sample on a pair of khaki shorts that belonged to Heinze matched the DNA of Russell Toler Sr. and another matched the DNA of Guy Heinze Sr., she said.

A pair of pants had blood that matched the blood of Russell Toler Sr., O'Malley-Fripp testified.


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3:56 p.m.

As he cross-examined DNA analyst Kristen O'Malley-Fripp, defense lawyer Newell Hamilton Jr. asked her about preserving DNA evidence and problems she had experienced with machine breakdowns in analyzing samples in the case against Guy Heinze Jr.

She also said that samples should not be exposed to extreme heat and cold and that rain could wash away examples.

He had her show the jury again where cuttings were taken from clothing that she had analysed for the DNA of victims.

As he has done with other witnesses, Hamilton bore in on questions about cross-contamination of evidence.

He asked if she knew that Heinze's clothing that she had tested had been kept in one bag, as they had at the jail.

"Not if they were dry,'' she said, confirming the testimony of another GBI expert.

He asked again if blood could be transferred from one item to another.


"If they were all wet, yes,'' she testified.

She also testified that an expert secured by the defens, was present during the DNA testing.

The chance of recovering touch DNA decreases the longer an items is exposed to the elements, she said.

Johnson also questioned her about cross-contamination to ensure that she testified that the liklihood of cross-contamination would be greatly diminished if dry items were bagged together as was the case with Heinze clothing when he was booked into jail.


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4:45 p.m.

Glynn County police investigator Marc Neu testified that Heinze left the police station for jail wearing dark shorts as underwear. He didn't see any blood on them, so he let Heinze keep them.

"I'm just saying I didn't see blood,'' Neu said.

"And later, they got blood on them,'' defense lawyer Newell Hamilton Jr. said.
Neu testified he was aware that blood was found on them later, but he repeatedly refused to speculate on how the blood got there.

Prior witnesses said the shorts Heinze wore as underwear were reversible and had blood visible on the lighter side.


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5:16 p.m.

Albert Rowland, a latent fingerprint examiner for the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, testified that a right palm print found on a shotgun was that of Guy Heinze Jr. Police have testified in Heinze's dealth penalty murder trial that Heinze said he removed the shotgun from a mobile home where eight people were beaten to death four years ago.

He received also a piece of paper with a red stainss on it, Rowland said.

The red stains were the bloody palm prints of Guy Heinze Jr., he testified.

A GBI analyst had testified earlier the blood on the piece of paper was that of Russell Toler Sr.

It was among items found inside a room in the mobile home.


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5:16 p.m.

Albert Rowland, a latent fingerprint examiner for the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, testified that a right palm print found on a shotgun was that of Guy Heinze Jr. Police have testified in Heinze's dealth penalty murder trial that Heinze said he removed the shotgun from a mobile home where eight people were beaten to death four years ago.

He received also a piece of paper with a red stainss on it, Rowland said.

The red stains were the bloody palm prints of Guy Heinze Jr., he testified.

A GBI analyst had testified earlier the blood on the piece of paper was that of Russell Toler Sr.

It was among items found inside a room in the mobile home.


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Thank you so much Popsicle for updating all of us on this horrid case.

Boy the state is pouring on the coal now with an abundance of evidence.

Personally, unless this jury is another Pinellas clueless jury...........I think Guy Heinz Jr is toast.

I never thought he was smart enough to cover his tracks and he didn't. He has placed himself right in the middle of the bloody crime scene among all of these victims as they were being murdered.

He took their blood with him and he left his DNA/palmprint behind. That will be a fatal mistake for him, imo.

May these victims get the justice they deserve.

IMO
 
Thanks for the updates, Popsicle!

Thank you so much Popsicle for updating all of us on this horrid case.

Boy the state is pouring on the coal now with an abundance of evidence.

Personally, unless this jury is another Pinellas clueless jury...........I think Guy Heinz Jr is toast.

I never thought he was smart enough to cover his tracks and he didn't. He has placed himself right in the middle of the bloody crime scene among all of these victims as they were being murdered.

He took their blood with him and he left his DNA/palmprint behind. That will be a fatal mistake for him, imo.

May these victims get the justice they deserve.

IMO

thank you popsicle!

boy do I remember when this happened ... cannot believe it's been four years already

I think he also had a surviving younger brother if I'm recalling correctly, who stood by him ... wonder if he still feels the same way
 
9 a.m.

BRUNSWICK | Glynn County drug investigator Ryan Alexander testified Friday morning that he tested the material that Guy Heinze Jr. possessed when he was first arrested and found it to be marijuana. Police arrested Heinze on drug charges the morning he told a 911 operator he had come home and found his father and seven others dead in a mobile home.

The prosecution's questions took only a matter of minutes, but defense attorney Newell Hamilton Jr. questioned Alexander about the violence inherent with illegal drug sales. Hamilton had asked previous witnesses about gang activities and has asserted police didn't fully investigate information provided about a man who had threatened Rusty Toler Sr. and his family.

Guy Heinze and his father lived with the eight members of Toler's extended family in a squallid mobile home at New Hope Mobile Home Park where the beating deaths occurred Aug. 29, 2009.

As court opened Friday, Hamilton filed a motion and argued that the defense team should have been told about any personnel issues with former Glynn County police officer Mike Owens, who had been the lead investigator in the case but who had since resigned. Hamilton has also asserted that Owens did not investigate nunchucks that New Hope maintenance workers supposedly found days after police completed their investigation of the crime scene.

District Attorney Jackie Johnson asked Alexander about his experience with crack cocaine users.

"Very unpredictable, is the best way to put it'' Alexander testified.

They can also be very violent and hard to deal with, he said.

Officers have testified that Heinze told them at the scene of the slayings he had been out all night smoking crack before coming home at 8 a.m. and finding everyone dead.

"If a person is under the influence of cocaine,'' Johnson asked, "will that person sometimes do extraordinary things to obtain more cocaine?"

Alexander said they would.

Hamilton posed the scenario of the average marijuana users.

"It's a drug of complacency. You get high, sit down and watch TV,'' Hamiton said, and Alexander agreed.

In answering Hamilton's question, Alexander said, "I would not interview anyone under the influence of any drug."

"Crack cocaine could seriously influence the accuracy of the information you receive?'' Hamilton posited.

Alexander said the answers of someone under the influence would likely not be accurate and he wouldn't rely on what they said.



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AP photo/The Brunswick News/Michael Hall
Guy Heinze, Jr. enters Glynn County Superior Court in Brunswick, Ga. Thursday, October, 17, 2013 on the third day of his trial. Heinze is on trial for the murder of eight people at New Hope mobile home park in Glynn County in 2009.



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10:55 a.m.

Jurors watched an hour-long video tape of Guy Heinze Jr. being interviewed by investigator Len Davis Sept. 2. Heinze had been in custody since Aug. 29 on drug charges after he told a 911 operator he had come home and found his father and seven others dead.

The interview jumped back and forth from his activities from getting up in the morning Aug. 28 until he found the victims and frantically reported the deaths about 8 a.m. the next morning. In the interview, Heinze acknowledged smoking $100 worth of crack cocaine in the hours before discovering the victims' bodies at home.

On the tape Heinze said:
He had worked building a house Aug. 28 in Eulonia but got off early because it was raining. He got paid in cash, went to coworker's house on St. Simons,walked to Bubba Garcia's for lunch and went back to the coworker's house.

"We was just chilling."

Some time later he got a ride home.

"I ended up buying some crack from Joe,'' smoked it, took a shower, his cousin shaved his head at the house, bought some more crack from Joe and then borrowed Russell Toler Jr.'s car around midnight he said to go see a girl.

He drove to Fort Barrington in McIntosh County where he smoked crack, later met his brother on St. Simons Island at 4 or 4:30 a.m. Aug. 29. They ate breakfast at Huddle House and he then got back into Toler Jr's car and drove home to New Hope Mobile Home Park.

"I was geeked up,'' and had tried to sleep on the floor at his brother's hotel room, he said, where everyone else was sleeping.

He told Davis that he was wearing khaki shorts, a blue striped polo shirt and flip-flops.
Heinze said he moved in with Russell Toler Sr., who he called his uncle, about June 2008, moved out for a few months but moved back into the trailer since May 2009 where 10 lived.

"Everybody got along real fine,'' he said.

"While I was working, my uncle drawing unemployment and my dad was between jobs,'' he said of financial arrangements.

They were getting evicted, he said, because there were 10 living in the trailer. The only fights occurred when Chrissy Toler's mother came over and got upset because Chrissy's bodyfriend, Joe West, was black, he said.

He said he slept on the floor of a bedroom he shared with Russell Toler Sr. and Michael Toler.

He claimed not to associate with Joe and Chrissy's friends when they came over often to buy drugs from Joseph West.

"They'd come up to the window and buy ___ out the window,'' he said. "You wouldn't hardly know they were there."

Asked where he got the khaki shorts he wore the morning of the slayings, Heinze said from a friend who went to rehab up north.

"Do you know anybody that would do this to your family?'' Davis asked.

"Nobody I know was mad like that,'' Heinze said.

He acknowledged he had kept Russell Toler Jr.'s car too long.

"I knew he was going to be mad with me when I got back," he said.

Heinze said he got paid "Four hundred and ninety something dollars" Friday.

Asked how much he paid West for crack, Heinze said, "I paid him sixty something,'' perhaps $65.

He later got $50 worth of crack from West later, but didn't pay him at the time.

Russell Toler Jr. cut his hair at the kitchen in the house on Friday.

Asked when he put on black gym shorts, Heinze said, "I had them on all the time under what I had on.''

Police have testified that, beneath a pair of khaki shorts, Heinze had on black and gray reversible gym shorts and that blood spatters were visible on the lighter gray side of the shorts. A DNA analyst testified the blood was that of some of the victims.

"I opened the door and I saw my dad like that...I got hysterical,'' he said.

He ran into the other rooms, found the others dead and got more frantic. He found a cell phone in the floor and started to call 911, but he took the shotgun out of the house first.

Heinze said he saw Peggy, who was neighbor Margaret Orlinski, outside and told her, "Call the law. Call the law."

He went back in and found Michael alive, but didn't really touch the others, but looked at them to see if they were breathing.

He touched his dad, but removed the covers off Chrissy and Joe without touching their bodies.

Asked what mad him conclude the victims had been beaten, Heinze said "When I looked in and seen my dad, it didn't look like him. Something had tore his face up."
He didn't remember touching anything but a 16 gauge shotgun that he put in the car.

He had paid $25 for the shotgun a month earlier and knew it was stolen.

"There was supposed be a 20 gauge in there, but I don't remember seeing it,'' he said.

The front door was unlocked.

"We don't lock the door...Nobody's got a house key,'' and besides the house is not air-conditioned so the windows stayed open.

He described where he found everyone lying in the mobile home and said he found Chrissy's son, "Little Byron" in the bed.

"It looked like they were in bed,'' he said and repeated the only thing he remembered touching was the shotgun and the phone.

"I was hysterical. I was crying,'' he said.

When Davis asked if there was anything in the house that could be used for a weapon, Heinze said, "I guess anything could be used for a weapon."

"Who do think done this?" Davis asked.

"I really can't think of anybody that could have done it. I've sat in jail and thought about it,'' Heinze said.

When he found Michael Toler alive, Heinze said he held his hand and sat down on the bed beside him.

Asked how much crack he had smoked overnight, Heinze said, "At least $100 worth."
Heinze told Davis he had completed 8th grade.


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I don't think that palm print on paper is the Ah-ah moment . He said he touched the victims and it seems to be implied he should have more blood on him.
He sad he was there . They expected to find evidence he was there.

So did he at some point wash his hands after LE got there and Did the worker who spoke on the phone to 911 see any blood on Guys hands?


I would venture to guess a crime scene as bad as that one did not limit the blood evidence to the house. It would be possible for the dog outside the open window to have gotten splatter on him and any place that the murder went after words. I know in the bedroom where the box fan was in the window next to the porch there is a large space open.

I think this room is where Joe ,Michelle ,and chrissy were murdered and I think Michelle was what is called in the news article describing the seen "victim #4''



Now that I know he had 391 dollars on him ,and he says he bought crack from Joe twice that night ,once though the window,I wonder if any cash was found with Joe . For some reason I believe they did find money in the home because they never said robbery was a suspected motive .They were searching hard for a motive in the first hours .IMO And was there any crack in the house for Joe to sell?
 
10:55 a.m.

Jurors watched an hour-long video tape of Guy Heinze Jr. being interviewed by investigator Len Davis Sept. 2. Heinze had been in custody since Aug. 29 on drug charges after he told a 911 operator he had come home and found his father and seven others dead.

The interview jumped back and forth from his activities from getting up in the morning Aug. 28 until he found the victims and frantically reported the deaths about 8 a.m. the next morning. In the interview, Heinze acknowledged smoking $100 worth of crack cocaine in the hours before discovering the victims' bodies at home.

On the tape Heinze said:
He had worked building a house Aug. 28 in Eulonia but got off early because it was raining. He got paid in cash, went to coworker's house on St. Simons,walked to Bubba Garcia's for lunch and went back to the coworker's house.

"We was just chilling."

Some time later he got a ride home.

"I ended up buying some crack from Joe,'' smoked it, took a shower, his cousin shaved his head at the house, bought some more crack from Joe and then borrowed Russell Toler Jr.'s car around midnight he said to go see a girl.

He drove to Fort Barrington in McIntosh County where he smoked crack, later met his brother on St. Simons Island at 4 or 4:30 a.m. Aug. 29. They ate breakfast at Huddle House and he then got back into Toler Jr's car and drove home to New Hope Mobile Home Park.

"I was geeked up,'' and had tried to sleep on the floor at his brother's hotel room, he said, where everyone else was sleeping.

He told Davis that he was wearing khaki shorts, a blue striped polo shirt and flip-flops.
Heinze said he moved in with Russell Toler Sr., who he called his uncle, about June 2008, moved out for a few months but moved back into the trailer since May 2009 where 10 lived.

"Everybody got along real fine,'' he said.

"While I was working, my uncle drawing unemployment and my dad was between jobs,'' he said of financial arrangements.

They were getting evicted, he said, because there were 10 living in the trailer. The only fights occurred when Chrissy Toler's mother came over and got upset because Chrissy's bodyfriend, Joe West, was black, he said.

He said he slept on the floor of a bedroom he shared with Russell Toler Sr. and Michael Toler.

He claimed not to associate with Joe and Chrissy's friends when they came over often to buy drugs from Joseph West.

"They'd come up to the window and buy ___ out the window,'' he said. "You wouldn't hardly know they were there."

Asked where he got the khaki shorts he wore the morning of the slayings, Heinze said from a friend who went to rehab up north.

"Do you know anybody that would do this to your family?'' Davis asked.

"Nobody I know was mad like that,'' Heinze said.

He acknowledged he had kept Russell Toler Jr.'s car too long.

"I knew he was going to be mad with me when I got back," he said.

Heinze said he got paid "Four hundred and ninety something dollars" Friday.

Asked how much he paid West for crack, Heinze said, "I paid him sixty something,'' perhaps $65.

He later got $50 worth of crack from West later, but didn't pay him at the time.

Russell Toler Jr. cut his hair at the kitchen in the house on Friday.

Asked when he put on black gym shorts, Heinze said, "I had them on all the time under what I had on.''

Police have testified that, beneath a pair of khaki shorts, Heinze had on black and gray reversible gym shorts and that blood spatters were visible on the lighter gray side of the shorts. A DNA analyst testified the blood was that of some of the victims.

"I opened the door and I saw my dad like that...I got hysterical,'' he said.

He ran into the other rooms, found the others dead and got more frantic. He found a cell phone in the floor and started to call 911, but he took the shotgun out of the house first.

Heinze said he saw Peggy, who was neighbor Margaret Orlinski, outside and told her, "Call the law. Call the law."

He went back in and found Michael alive, but didn't really touch the others, but looked at them to see if they were breathing.

He touched his dad, but removed the covers off Chrissy and Joe without touching their bodies.

Asked what mad him conclude the victims had been beaten, Heinze said "When I looked in and seen my dad, it didn't look like him. Something had tore his face up."
He didn't remember touching anything but a 16 gauge shotgun that he put in the car.

He had paid $25 for the shotgun a month earlier and knew it was stolen.

"There was supposed be a 20 gauge in there, but I don't remember seeing it,'' he said.

The front door was unlocked.

"We don't lock the door...Nobody's got a house key,'' and besides the house is not air-conditioned so the windows stayed open.

He described where he found everyone lying in the mobile home and said he found Chrissy's son, "Little Byron" in the bed.

"It looked like they were in bed,'' he said and repeated the only thing he remembered touching was the shotgun and the phone.

"I was hysterical. I was crying,'' he said.

When Davis asked if there was anything in the house that could be used for a weapon, Heinze said, "I guess anything could be used for a weapon."

"Who do think done this?" Davis asked.

"I really can't think of anybody that could have done it. I've sat in jail and thought about it,'' Heinze said.

When he found Michael Toler alive, Heinze said he held his hand and sat down on the bed beside him.

Asked how much crack he had smoked overnight, Heinze said, "At least $100 worth."
Heinze told Davis he had completed 8th grade.


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Thanks for the update Popsicle! You are doing an outstanding job.:)

This part is going to be his waterloo:

Asked when he put on black gym shorts, Heinze said, "I had them on all the time under what I had on.''
Police have testified that, beneath a pair of khaki shorts, Heinze had on black and gray reversible gym shorts and that blood spatters were visible on the lighter gray side of the shorts. A DNA analyst testified the blood was that of some of the victims.

When he took them off he had the darker side showing but when they reversed them there was blood of the victims found on them. Victims he said he never touched.

Imo, the reason he did not pay West for the drugs the last time was because West was dead along with the rest he had murdered.

The jury is seeing the exact location where the bloody palm print was found belonging to Guy Heinz Jr along with the blood of one of the victims that was already long dead when LE arrived at the scene. This means to make a bloody palm print the blood of the victim had to be wet at the time he made the imprint. Not only was this is hot as hell August but they had no air conditioner either. But they did have large box fans in the window which would dry the deceased victims' blood even faster.

IIRC, the state wanted to introduce drawings the younger children had made and had put up on the refrigerator that had blood on them. If so it means the blood was going up that high as he attacked in order to land on the drawings. Then he may have leaned against the refrig for support and that is where the bloody palm print comes from.

And the blood found on his clothing was 'BLOOD SPATTER" and not transference blood meaning the blood was being flung at a high velocity at the time when it landed on his clothing and shoes. That can only mean he was the one striking these poor people over and over again making the blood spatter backwards onto him. IMO

IMO
 
11:23 a.m.

In a rambling videotaped interview that lasted well over an hour, Guy Heinze Jr. acknowledged again smoking a lot of crack cocaine but denied the possibility he could have killed his father and seven others while he was high.

He also said Joseph West, who was one of those beaten to death, didn’t mind providing him with about $65 worth of crack cocaine without being paid.

“He was cool with it. He knew I was good for it,’’ he told Glynn County police investigator Len Davis said.

When Davis told Heinze they had video tape from a Parker’s convenience store on St. Simons that showed him wearing the black gym shorts.

He said he thought he had the khaki shorts when he went to see his brother on St. Simons but may have been mistaken.

Davis told him there was blood on the gym shorts, Heinze said it must have gotten on them when he went inside the house and sat on the bed. Investigators have said there was no

“I know Joe and Chrissy’s people that well,’’ and said Joe may made someone mad, he said.

Asked if Joe [West] sold a lot of dope, Heinze said, “He didn’t have a job. That’s what he did.”

Heinze said he didn’t have a cell phone, but that West had a phone and that Chrissy had a phone as did Michelle Toler, 15.

Heinze said he wears Timberland boots to work that he had left at his friend Zack’s house Friday and left in flip flops.

“That’s the only two pair of shoes I got,’’ he said.

Asked if Joe West ever made anyone angry in his drug dealings, Heinze said he didn’t know.

“That wasn’t my business’’ and

“Guy, is it possible with you being high like you were you could have done this?” Davis asked.

“No. No,’’ he said. “That was my family.”

Asked about earlier statements he made to police the morning of the slayings, Heinze said he was unsure of what he had said.

“I was messed up, man,’’ he said.

Asked about injuries to his hands and leg, Heinze said at work.

“I build houses. It happens every day,’’ he said.

When Davis mentioned a cut on his leg, Heinze said he believed it happened when he handed some plywood up to a roof, but that when he gets cut, “I don’t think anything about it.”



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