Found Deceased TX - Kaytlynn Cargill, 14, Bedford, 19 June 2017 #3 *Arrest*

Peppery said:

We don't know if this was the first time she did this, with Source 1, the killer or with someone else. This (likely imo) could have been going on for a while. Maybe she was especially skilled at making dabs? Maybe she was so "good" that no one would ever suspect her, making her the perfect person to go undetected.

There are a lot of relationships we don't know yet.
KC to killer
KC to killers girlfriend
KC to source 1
Killer to source 1
Location of source 1's home where killer previously lived.
Where killer lived prior to staying with source 1.
What schools the three main players attended
Does using source 1 in the affidavit imply there is a source 2, 3, etc?


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leep said:

But the affidavit states that it was KC's blood.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3985857/PC36785.pdf
I think Source1 isn't being fully truthful and is just telling a story that he thinks probably makes him not look as bad as the real truth would do.
In the U.K. You can get £300 worth of weed on trust easily if you smoke it all or don't pay it back the dealers not going to kill he's just going to work out a payment plan with you and if you don't pay it back you might get a beating but murder no way not for weed the perp obviously has a nasty temper and was always going to be a murderer one day.


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rocket said:

One doesn't need to be a chemistry whiz in order to make dabs...

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faw720 said:

We don't know if the suspect's parents are even in the picture. So far as I know, there has been no mention of them. Perhaps the suspect just drifted around from family (uncle) or friends.

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faw720 said:

I can help a little with the school questions.

Kaytlynn had finished her last school year at Central Junior High School in Bedford. She would have started high school this fall at either Trinity High School in Euless or L. D. Bell High School in Hurst. I am presuming maybe she would have gone to Trinity since she had taken some summer classes there. The cities of Hurst, Euless & Bedford are all in one school district, HEB ISD. In some areas the city limits of each town resemble a zipper. Often, you never know what city you are in unless you happen to see a sign. I'm not sure what is used to make a determination as to what high school a kid would attend.

The suspect was enrolled in O. D. Wyatt High School located in South Fort Worth. That is where he was arrested.

I have no idea what school Source 1 attended.

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ninij9 said:

This is an awesome post. I agree a million percent that taking Kaytlynns actions out of the equation to preserve some kind of image of her for her loved ones is a dangerous action. Kids ARE more worldly today and WE have to catch up to them or we can never help.

Funny story (or not):
my 17 year old son came home after an afternoon trip to the mall recently. I wanted a kiss so I joked "come here lemme smell your breath". He kissed me (love this kid to death) still joking (swear) I said "hey what's that smell?" Too his utter shock and my horror he admitted to smoking pot (I SMELLED NOTHING, I WAS JOKING).

Well joke was on me, but now I know. He was punished (with his honesty taken into account) and I have a heightened awareness. I would have Bible stack sworn NOT MY SON. Anyway. Kaytlynn was just a girl, in 2017, maybe doing what some girls in 2017 do. Period.

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gitana1 said:

17 year old boy trying pot = not uncommon. 14 year old softball player involved in dealing and complex manufacturing of a potent form of a drug? A hole 'nother level.

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verbonica said:

BBM

Are you certain that she was to start high school this fall? Other reports say that she had just finished 7th grade, for example:

"Thursday night, more than 100 friends and classmates gathered at Central Junior High, where she was a seventh grader..."
http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/kayt...olice-update-mystery-death-landfill/451611641

Maybe it's not crucial information for the case, but I just wonder which info is correct?

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faw720 said:

Sorry, I'm not sure of anything in this case. I THOUGHT I read somewhere that she was going to high school. Perhaps I am wrong. I have read so much about this case here & elsewhere my brain may be fogged. I'll try to do some more research & come back here. I would be willing to bet that the news station knows more than I do.

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cluciano63 said:

I think LE has more details on the various relationships,length of friendships etc...seems doubtful they would implicate the victim so strongly in affidavit unless they werw fairly certain of her level of involvement, but jmo.

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faw720 said:

Sorry, I'm not sure of anything in this case. I THOUGHT I read somewhere that she was going to high school. Perhaps I am wrong. I have read so much about this case here & elsewhere my brain may be fogged. I'll try to do some more research & come back here. I would be willing to bet that the news station knows more than I do.

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verbonica said:

News stations and reporters get things wrong sometimes too. I've seen misspellings or misstatements propagated over a wide number of reports when a bunch of them just copy the original misinformation.

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Gardener1850 said:

According to her obituary she was in Junior High (doesn't say which grade): http://www.lucasfuneralhomes.com/obituaries/Kaytlynn-Cargill/#!/Obituary

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gitana1 said:

Yeah I agree. It would seem pretty horrible to do to the family if it wasn't true. But it all came form source 1, right? Or were there text messages referred to by the investigators?

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faw720 said:

I can help a little with the school questions.

Kaytlynn had finished her last school year at Central Junior High School in Bedford. She would have started high school this fall at either Trinity High School in Euless or L. D. Bell High School in Hurst. I am presuming maybe she would have gone to Trinity since she had taken some summer classes there. The cities of Hurst, Euless & Bedford are all in one school district, HEB ISD. In some areas the city limits of each town resemble a zipper. Often, you never know what city you are in unless you happen to see a sign. I'm not sure what is used to make a determination as to what high school a kid would attend.

The suspect was enrolled in O. D. Wyatt High School located in South Fort Worth. That is where he was arrested.

I have no idea what school Source 1 attended.

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leep said:

But the affidavit states that it was KC's blood.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3985857/PC36785.pdf
I think Source1 isn't being fully truthful and is just telling a story that he thinks probably makes him not look as bad as the real truth would do.
In the U.K. You can get £300 worth of weed on trust easily if you smoke it all or don't pay it back the dealers not going to kill he's just going to work out a payment plan with you and if you don't pay it back you might get a beating but murder no way not for weed the perp obviously has a nasty temper and was always going to be a murderer one day.


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Wrigley's_Human said:

I don't have the same reaction to others as to the sophistication of this. I didn't read talk to Kaytlynn using dabs. There are people who make money off drugs but don't use them. I am picturing her somehow getting involved with shady characters.

There aren't too many ways for 13-14 y/o to make money legally and she might not have been able to get as much as she wanted from her parents.

She and her other friend meet the suspect. Somehow they find out about dabs and how they can make them and think that it's easy money. Why not. This actually seems much safer and less risky than her being a dealer. She can take the product home, convert it to dabs, and turn it around for a quick profit.

She doesn't have to make transactions where customers could get busted and turn on her or turn out to be narcs. She doesn't have to put up money up front. She doesn't have to keep it around or arouse suspicion. She doesn't have to do a bunch of exchanges for money.

She's smart. This seems like Breaking Bad to me. Kids her age are able to cook like gourmet chefs because of You Tube and websites. Making these doesn't seem more complicated.

JMO

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Kimpossible31 said:

I can't attest what grade she would have been starting but can tell you that Central Dr. Is the dividing line for L.D. Bell and Trinity high school boundaries (that being said-that apartment complex is on the LD Bell side of the boundary). Summer school classes for the entire HEB school district are held at one school in the district for all jr high and high school students so that only one school has to use electricity and resources (this knowledge from having a child who attended summer school in the district a couple summers ago). At the time it did enter my mind that 7th graders were being schooled with 12th graders during summer school (different classes of course-just same building). Junior highs in the district are 7th-8th-9th (there are 5). Both of the high schools are 10th-12th.

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