The Sleuther of the Year prize will go to anyone who can find a link between any of the GB4 or JT and the businesses named above. I think perhaps someone should start with the Sleuthing of ALC's sister (because she was working for an agency). If ALC's sister worked for any of the businesses named above, then we have a very good reason to turn this case from a serial killer investigation to an organized crime investigation.
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The Sleuther of the Year prize will go to anyone who can find a link between any of the GB4 or JT and the businesses named above. I think perhaps someone should start with the Sleuthing of ALC's sister (because she was working for an agency). If ALC's sister worked for any of the businesses named above, then we have a very good reason to turn this case from a serial killer investigation to an organized crime investigation.
The fact that SG listed 2 of these companies as her employer both times she was arrested and this is part of LE records does not link the GB4 to these businesses, but it does link them to her. There are some really tight lips involved since we have never been able to positively link SG to the GB4. To me this means there is some very serious fear involved to keep all these people quiet. JMO.
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It aint Italians doing it. Maybe some other nationality, not Italian/Sicilian though.
And if it was a rogue Italian or Sicilian.....they are now gone as that kind of stuff is unacceptable.
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scpd (and cph) have the most to lose if SG's death is considered a homicide. it makes a wrongful death suit valid and plausible. ten's of mills. scpd doesn't want that hence, "You can't prove she didn't drown in that puddle" I think we will ultimately be able to prove that wrong. You can't hide the truth forever, just ask Drew Peterson:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/07/justice/illinois-drew-peterson-verdict/index.html
"Savio was found dead in her bathtub on March 1, 2004. Her hair was wet, but the tub was clean and dry. Drew Peterson's lawyers said her death was accidental -- that she fell, hit her head and drowned. Savio's killing did not garner much publicity until Stacy Peterson went missing and investigators began looking again into the circumstances. They exhumed Savio's body, re-examined it and issued a second report on her death. Savio, it said, was murdered. Peterson was arrested and charged in May 2009 with first-degree murder."
Ruis is a Spanish name. Several other Spanish names involved in this.
We have one other Escort service named and that was the one MB worked for, James Bond.
MBB, was lured to the city, per her sister, to work for some company called Sexy something or other...a "modeling" company.
But we also read, in these articles about Ruis, that he delivered drugs to the clients as well as women.
The thought has crossed my mind that at least a few of these women had to deal with the chain of supply (DRUGS) as well as providing the physical services. MW was with a known drug dealer, SG worked for JR another supplier, and ALC went into the city daily, per her sister, to purchase drugs. From my research, I found that SC drug dealers got the drugs in the Bronx and Brooklyn for half the price that they sold it in SC.
The point here is that maybe the women were more involved in the trafficking of drugs than we have been led to believe.
MBB, was lured to the city, per her sister, to work for some company called Sexy something or other...a "modeling" company.
But we also read, in these articles about Ruis, that he delivered drugs to the clients as well as women.
The thought has crossed my mind that at least a few of these women had to deal with the chain of supply (DRUGS) as well as providing the physical services. MW was with a known drug dealer, SG worked for JR another supplier, and ALC went into the city daily, per her sister, to purchase drugs. From my research, I found that SC drug dealers got the drugs in the Bronx and Brooklyn for half the price that they sold it in SC.
The point here is that maybe the women were more involved in the trafficking of drugs than we have been led to believe.
Very good point.
It also reminds me of how drug suppliers and drug purchasers are always concerned about video and photo evidence when the deals take place. They would absolutely insist that cell phones be left behind (because most all cell phones have cameras).
On another note, if there were other people at JB's home (the drifter) and JB was doing a drug purchase through SG, it is very possible that SG said "let's take a ride in your car" (hence the unexplained 15 minute ride that never left OB). It's also possible that JB arranged for another Oak Beach resident to make a purchase through SG.
Why do you think that MW was a known drug dealer? From what I know about drug dealers, it is a full time job and somewhat a conflict of intererst to try to do both. Both are very dangerous and both a prostitute and a drug dealer have to be very paranoid and on their toes to not get busted or killed. And they can't be strung out themselves if they are going to make any money. For those reasons I don't think these women were dealing. However what about their "boyfriends?" These men that claim they are not pimps and are just lovers or friends of these women? I'm thinking some of them may be the other half of the prostitution/drug supplier arrangement .
I tried to sleuth the James Bond agency and could find nothing, absolutely nothing related to this name. I found lots of company names connected to Ruis when I googled Joseph Ruis+Shannnan Gilbert or just his name. He also seems to have lots of addresses that I wonder if could be connected to any of the GB4 if you have the time and patience...
We have been trying all this time to find a link to all these suspicious people and I am thinking Ruis might be it. He is certainly a gold mine for googling and sleuthing.:idea:
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Sleuthing KO is a no no. :escape:
Quoting her quotes isn't though. In that NY Mag article she said she worked for an agency...the big question is....WHICH ONE?
Reading this again, I see I have misread a comment again! I now see Just K's comment MW was WITH a known drug dealer. I must really seem like a nut case now. I just got so excited about a new player Fred&Edna found, I was reading too fast. At least that's my excuse.
Actually Ruis is also a Middle Eastern name. The kebab house along with his mugshot are also dead giveaways that we are dealing with someone of a Middle Eastern decent.
Why not?
She has gone on record to state that she is the one who lured her sister into the prostitution racket in the first place. She is also questionable as to why she never reported her sister missing. She has been extremely vocal in the news/media too. I would think we could at least be permitted to limit ourselves to what she has said in the major media.
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Websleuths is a victim friendly forum. Attacking or bashing a victim is not allowed. Discussing victim behavior,good or bad is fine, but do so in a civl and constructive way and ONLY IF IT IS RELEVANT TO THE CASE. Additionally,sleuthing family members that are not suspected of being involved in the crime or disappearance is not allowed. Don't make random accusations or post personal information (even if it is public) like parking tickets, address, or first and last names of all their relatives and their neighbors. Also, never "bash" or attack them, or accuse them of involvement. However that does not mean that family members cannot come into discussion as the facts and issues of the case are discussed.
What KO has put out there about herself via msm is fair game, anything beyond that is off limits, according to the TOS.
Of course, I'm not a mod, and am in no way telling anyone what they can and can't post. I'm just letting you guys know that if you do post personal info on KO, a mod will fly in here with a ray gun and start zapping.
Now this is creepy:
http://surnames.meaning-of-names.com/Ruis/
Meaning of Ruis
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Ruis Meaning: dweller at, or near a place where reeds grew.
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redbird I have found a :
"jamesbondentertainment escorts"
Here is a link, look at the very bottom of the page, there are several different bizz names, one of them beeing "jamesbondentertainment escorts"
http://aimeesescorts.escort-site.com/members.phtml
Foreigner, you are incredible! Now what can we find on this Ruiz. I spent a couple of hours last night but didn't find anything significant. His lawyer certainly has a lot going on including several addresses and being in partnership with some unsavory characters.
consigliere: legal advisor, family attorney, right-hand man to the organization's leader.
The role exists in most crime organizations. One does not have to be Sicilian to appreciate & benefit from the importance this role provides.
The role exists in most crime organizations. One does not have to be Sicilian to appreciate & benefit from the importance this role provides.
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JR's businesses generated a LOT of $. He simply could not have been a 1-man show, but I can't seem to find any information re: partners or associates. Maybe I'm still out on a limb with this guy... maybe there's no connection.