Pisto_lius
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Maybe I can help to clarify some questions and/or irritations resp. false information
A short part of the timeline
* shortly after 03:00 a.m. OP called female neighbour [probably wife of Stander, lawyer, friend], said she should come immediately
http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/i-saw-reeva-die-1.1471707#.UXLG2qK-2So
* 03.08 a.m. OPs close friend Christo Menelaou woke with a start. Hed heard what sounded like three thunderclaps. He lay in bed waiting for the rain to start. Almost an hour later [~ 04.10 a.m.] he went to the bathroom. His window looks out onto OPs house. His house used to be in pitch darkness at night, except for one light that was always on, Christo (34) says. But that night all the lights were on and there were blue and red lights flashing outside the house.
http://drum.co.za/2013/04/26/hes-heartbroken/
* 03.17 a.m. - Reeva died by the fatal head shot (according to Nel + Roux)
* 03.19 a.m. - OP called Stander [according to OP's DT]
* 03.20 a.m. - OP called Netcare [according to OP's DT]
* 03.20 a.m. Stander and his wife (?) (called by OP shortly after 03.00 a.m.) came to the house
* few minutes later Dr Stipp arrived
* 03.42 a.m. - paramedics and first police officers arrived
[There was a video with CCTV footage of Silverwood estate that showed the arrival of paramedics and police. Sadly I not noted the link of the video but I noted the time that was shown.]
* 03.55 a.m. - OP called friend Justin Divaris. Female neigbour [probably wife of Stander, called by OP shortly after 03.00 a.m.] talked with Justin Divaris on phone
* 04:00 a.m. - Female neigbour [probably wife of Stander, called by OP shortly after 03.00 a.m.] called coach Peet Van Zyl by OPs phone [I picked up the phone and saw it was Oscar's number and thought it was him phoning me.] and told him he have to rush to come to OPs house
* ??? a.m. Peet Van Zyl called Ampie Louw, OPs athletic coach
* 04.00 a.m. - further police officers arrived
* 04.15 a.m. - Hilton Botha arrived
* ??? a.m. Peet Van Zyl + Ampie Louw arrived
[at this time OP wasn't no longer in the house but separate by police in the garage]
* 04.30 a.m. - Justin Divaris + girlfriend Samantha Greyvenstein arrived
[at this time OP wasn't no longer in the house but separate by police in the garage]
All mentioned people except Peet Van Zyl + Ampie Louw are at the state's witness list.
Phone calls
[from the bail hearing]
Nel: Did this accused phone police?
Botha: No.
Nel: Phone security?
Botha: No.
Nel: Phone [for an] ambulance?
Botha: No.
Botha: I saw a firearm on the shower mat. Collected 2 cellphones and two more Blackberries. The two iPhones were not used that morning. The Blackberries hadnt been used in months.
Different reports about the time OP's brother and lawyer (Kenny Oldwage) arrived
A short part of the timeline
* shortly after 03:00 a.m. OP called female neighbour [probably wife of Stander, lawyer, friend], said she should come immediately
http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/i-saw-reeva-die-1.1471707#.UXLG2qK-2So
* 03.08 a.m. OPs close friend Christo Menelaou woke with a start. Hed heard what sounded like three thunderclaps. He lay in bed waiting for the rain to start. Almost an hour later [~ 04.10 a.m.] he went to the bathroom. His window looks out onto OPs house. His house used to be in pitch darkness at night, except for one light that was always on, Christo (34) says. But that night all the lights were on and there were blue and red lights flashing outside the house.
http://drum.co.za/2013/04/26/hes-heartbroken/
* 03.17 a.m. - Reeva died by the fatal head shot (according to Nel + Roux)
* 03.19 a.m. - OP called Stander [according to OP's DT]
* 03.20 a.m. - OP called Netcare [according to OP's DT]
* 03.20 a.m. Stander and his wife (?) (called by OP shortly after 03.00 a.m.) came to the house
* few minutes later Dr Stipp arrived
* 03.42 a.m. - paramedics and first police officers arrived
[There was a video with CCTV footage of Silverwood estate that showed the arrival of paramedics and police. Sadly I not noted the link of the video but I noted the time that was shown.]
* 03.55 a.m. - OP called friend Justin Divaris. Female neigbour [probably wife of Stander, called by OP shortly after 03.00 a.m.] talked with Justin Divaris on phone
* 04:00 a.m. - Female neigbour [probably wife of Stander, called by OP shortly after 03.00 a.m.] called coach Peet Van Zyl by OPs phone [I picked up the phone and saw it was Oscar's number and thought it was him phoning me.] and told him he have to rush to come to OPs house
* ??? a.m. Peet Van Zyl called Ampie Louw, OPs athletic coach
* 04.00 a.m. - further police officers arrived
* 04.15 a.m. - Hilton Botha arrived
* ??? a.m. Peet Van Zyl + Ampie Louw arrived
[at this time OP wasn't no longer in the house but separate by police in the garage]
* 04.30 a.m. - Justin Divaris + girlfriend Samantha Greyvenstein arrived
[at this time OP wasn't no longer in the house but separate by police in the garage]
All mentioned people except Peet Van Zyl + Ampie Louw are at the state's witness list.
Phone calls
[from the bail hearing]
Nel: Did this accused phone police?
Botha: No.
Nel: Phone security?
Botha: No.
Nel: Phone [for an] ambulance?
Botha: No.
Botha: I saw a firearm on the shower mat. Collected 2 cellphones and two more Blackberries. The two iPhones were not used that morning. The Blackberries hadnt been used in months.
Different reports about the time OP's brother and lawyer (Kenny Oldwage) arrived
"Botha testified that shortly after he arrived at the crime scene, Pistorius' brother Carl and a lawyer arrived at the house with a locksmith. They wanted to open a safe in the kitchen. "They said they were looking for documents and a memory stick with account numbers of offshore accounts.
Botha: We asked to have the safes open. There was a specific safe in the kitchen but no key, so they brought a locksmith to open it.
Nel: Were [Pistoriuss defence] keen to get to the memory stick? Botha: Yes, it seemed as though they were. Were looking until they found it.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/oscar-pistorius-arrives-2nd-day-bail-hearing-article-1.1268575
Earlier, Det Botha said he arrived at the house at 04:15 and found Ms Steenkamp lying dead on the ground floor. She was wearing white shorts and a black vest, he said and was covered in towels.
A lawyer and Mr Pistorius's brother were already at the scene.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21514428