Thanks for clearing that up. Also the CCTV should prove useful as well in showing the integrity of the evidence was or wasn't protected.
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Thanks for clearing that up. Also the CCTV should prove useful as well in showing the integrity of the evidence was or wasn't protected.
Cig gal, who then got in the car with gas can man?
This thread would be really confusing to someone who has never heard of this case lol.
This thread would be really confusing to someone who has never heard of this case lol.
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I'll just say that there is protocol for the chain of evidence. When the chain of evidence is altered, it can be deemed inadmissible. That is the problem. What we believe may or may not have occurred is irrelevant. And now I'm starting to sound like an attorney, which is not my intent. I just want to point out that there could be problems with the chain of custody of the car. A good defense attorney will make a very big deal of it.
It was a mistake. It could be a very big mistake. You can see the uneasiness in the DA's face when he is asked about it in the latest interview, which I don't have at my fingertips right now unfortunately. The chain of custody of the video at M&M could also be a problem.
There's no denying they made mistakes. Let's just hope that they have some evidence so strong, it won't matter.
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I think that evidence did not necessarily need to be tampered with, but a shoddy crime scene investigation leaves the appearance of possible evidence being ignored or lost. How accurately could they have photographed the surrounding grounds for footprints, tire tracks, blood, etc if they stomped all over the scene and backed a tow truck in shortly after the fire was out? IN THE DARK ? Yes, I'm sure they had some lighting, but they really should have just taped the areaoff and guarded it all night until daylight to investigate. JMO
I am more skeptical by nature, thinking that if they thought it was a slam dunk, they would have done the exact opposite, and left everything in it's place so that there could be no questions asked pertaining to the quality of their investigation. JMO.
Unless it presented them with a dilemma.... as to whether or not they would want to prosecute the suspects of the "slam dunk" and what sort of fallout there could be in the community. JMO
We are forgetting something. This crime occurred in MS and they will investigate it as they see fit. Not all regions of the country do everything the same way. They've been handling their investigations without our help:jail:and they will manage this one too.
I saw that as well. It seemed to me as if it was being thrown out there as an option, rather than fact. I would think that if this was fact, it would have been stated somewhere by LE. Then again, who knows. They are releasing as little as possible, they say in efforts to preserve what they know for presentation to GJ. JMO.
IMOO, I think the seats were like that from the get-go. Some people like to have their seats waaaaay back, to the point that I am like, 'how can you even see or reach the steering wheel'? Either that, or they were reclined way back for another reason, but regardless, I think the seats were reclined before the fire, IMO.
Bolded in red, I have made modification and/or additions for further clarity. I hope some of this helps answer a few questions.
With respect to accelerants --
I believe images found under the heading "Meth Labs Discovered" on page 8 of the Panola County Sheriff's Department will provide some interesting fodder for speculation. I note the quantity of Coleman camping fuel in gallons, as well as the "hose paraphernalia". It appears as if the Sheriff's Department is well acquainted with the culture of drugs, arson, and violence.
I believe images found under the heading "Meth Labs Discovered" on page 8 of the Panola County Sheriff's Department will provide some interesting fodder for speculation. I note the quantity of Coleman camping fuel in gallons, as well as the "hose paraphernalia". It appears as if the Sheriff's Department is well acquainted with the culture of drugs, arson, and violence.
My concern regarding the tow truck incident and my alleging their mishandling of the evidence in that regard, is less focused on if/what/when/how something happened to the car while parked outside of the M&M, and more focused on the fact that any remaining evidence found in the car (if there is any) will be subject to scrutiny in court (if allowed admissible as evidence), which could lead to reasonable doubt within the jury or judge. MOO.
Between 7:00 pm and 8:00 pm in Oxford (about 28 miles away as the crow flies), the wind varied between 10-15 mph, with gusts of 18-22 mph, from the North, at 45-42°F, and no precipitation all day. Visibility of 9 miles.
http://www.wunderground.com/history...Oxford&req_state=MS&req_statename=Mississippi
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What I don't think is likely is that a cigarette-moocher is picky. I don't think so.
I also don't like the comment LF made about JC's eyelashes---kinda' disparaging to me.
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How do you know this for sure?
I often go outside at various times of the day, night, and morning (in freezing cold temps or pouring rain) to walk my dogs or just look at the stars.
Hopefully you will be able to access the Archives of The Panolian via this process:
I have provided the front page of January 1, 2013 in the above link. This is relevant to George Mister; it begins a tale of crime with his arrest, "Sheriff: alleged kidnapper is local gang leader". Later, you will need to open January 11 to page 7, "Bond reduction denied for defendant in kidnapping/robbery". The article details some interesting and perhaps relevant facts about how George Mister operates, as well as the status of his $110,000 bond.
Using the Archives from January 1, 2013 to the current day (via the above procedure) one will wonder why Mister's bond eventually was reduced enough to allow him to be free by May 24, 2013, and then re-arrested for "saggy pants".
However, regardless of the fate of George Mister, the front pages of 2013 detail a culture of drugs, gangs, violence, and murders in the Batesville/Courtland and/or Panola County Sheriff's Department jurisdiction.
I probably should have begun looking in an ascending order from 2007.
Panola County is steep -- and in deep -- in a cesspool of drugs, gangs, violence, and murders; I note though that sometime by summer 2013 DA John Champion had requested US Marshall assistance; I note also that the community is well aware of and working on these criminals.
- first click this link
- across the top banner locate "Options"
- open the dropdown menu to "Archives"
- When the subsequent download is finished, it is possible to select various full years from 2007 to 2014
I have provided the front page of January 1, 2013 in the above link. This is relevant to George Mister; it begins a tale of crime with his arrest, "Sheriff: alleged kidnapper is local gang leader". Later, you will need to open January 11 to page 7, "Bond reduction denied for defendant in kidnapping/robbery". The article details some interesting and perhaps relevant facts about how George Mister operates, as well as the status of his $110,000 bond.
Using the Archives from January 1, 2013 to the current day (via the above procedure) one will wonder why Mister's bond eventually was reduced enough to allow him to be free by May 24, 2013, and then re-arrested for "saggy pants".
However, regardless of the fate of George Mister, the front pages of 2013 detail a culture of drugs, gangs, violence, and murders in the Batesville/Courtland and/or Panola County Sheriff's Department jurisdiction.
I probably should have begun looking in an ascending order from 2007.
Panola County is steep -- and in deep -- in a cesspool of drugs, gangs, violence, and murders; I note though that sometime by summer 2013 DA John Champion had requested US Marshall assistance; I note also that the community is well aware of and working on these criminals.
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