VA - Anjelica "AJ" Hadsell, 18, Norfolk, 3 March 2015 #5

Also...hard to explain, these days, not knowing someone is an ex-con. Too easy to check, and should be automatic for anyone with children, Imo...

The kind of work done by any heating and air company, is almost always done on-site for the employees. Meaning, calls come into the main office from customers (residential or commercial), work orders are done up, and employees are scheduled job-sites. Such as: Bob at 1234 Center Street 8am-12pm Monday, 45678 Main Street 3pm Tuesday-5pm Wednesday... etc. Sometimes they're scheduled out on their own, other times they're scheduled with a crew, depending on the site & service needed.

Depending on what the job is, who the customer is, how many are needed on a job at one time, how many specialists you have in certain fields, etc. Tons of variables but essentially this is the way it works. Eventually the employees do clock back into the main office but their actual work is generally on-site. I only know this because I owned a company just like this for 15 years and was the one in charge of scheduling, every week. It's possible WH's employer does things differently, but in my experience nearly all specialty mech. companies work this way (especially the privately owned - indy operated ones).

Eileen730 said:

Didn't someone say there was a plant or a factory out there too.
Some business ...

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Southern Meat Packing is about 200 yds from the intersection of Battlefield Blvd and the Chesapeake Expressway. But the company WH works for is about 15+ miles away. Since he probably goes out on repair or installation calls, the location of his company doesn't mean that much.

razzledazzle said:

I saw where towards the end of the last thread, there was much discussion of AJ being adopted and changing her name. Here is my take on that....

AJ had always used ZH last name. He had raised her since she was 1 1/2 years old until she was about 13. So Mom, AJ, ZH, and the children born of Mom and ZH all had the same last name. WH comes along and marries Mom (not long after they meet). He can't change the siblings names, because ZH is in the picture, but he can drive a wedge between ZH and AJ and manipulate the situation so that AJ's name is changed. The name change was not about AJ, but about WH "winning" over ZH. WH is a master manipulator. I would definitely speculate that there is an underlying mental health diagnosis in there somewhere. JMO, MOO and all that good stuff.

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Thank you razzlezazzle i agree 100%, I wish I could of put it like that.

Remember this one!WH said!

The kid that we all know and love, we always wave to him, she saw him. I mean, they saw each other and then he brought to the police that at 2 o’clock he saw her pass by again.

IMO he was in that truck!

Dragonflybabyblue said:

Near the intersection of yesterday's search there is a company called Southern Packing. Think butcher shop on a larger scale. They do sell to restaurants, etc but I have walked in and bought steaks as well.

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I wasn't aware that you could still buy meat there. I knew the family of the previous owner and you could do it back then.

Hi Everyone,

Please think about what I am going to say to you.

Your Words Have Power!!!

The power to heal, the power to help, the power to HURT and the power to make things worse.

Remember Richard Ricci? The Salt Lake Police were absolutely positive he took Elizabeth Smart.

He had a long felony record, he was on probation, and a few months before Elizabeth went missing he had worked for her father Ed on the family house. Ricci knew the house and where
the family slept.

It didn't matter that Ricci hadn't seen the Smart family in a long time. LE decided this guy WAS GUILTY. HE KILLED ELIZABETH.

Most of us jumped on that bandwagon of hate for Richard Ricci.

We were all wrong. WRONG.

But it was too late. Ricci's brain exploded inside prison and he died of a brain hemorrhage.

His widow, along with most people, believe the police put so much pressure on him to admit to taking Elizabeth that his head exploded.

Elizabeth turned up a few months later. Having been taken by two religious nuts. She was OK.

In cases like AJ's I'm reminded of Richard Ricci and how easy it is to jump on the guilty bandwagon,

Yes WH has a past but does it mean he has anything to do with AJ's disappearance?

Please be careful. Now that we are discussing WH's past records it is easy to take those big steps and leap into something more horrific involving AJ's disappearance.

Please think before you post. At the end of the day if you are wrong those words are yours and yours alone.

Your words have power.

Tricia

Eileen730 said:

Remember this one!WH said!

The kid that we all know and love, we always wave to him, she saw him. I mean, they saw each other and then he brought to the police that at 2 o’clock he saw her pass by again.

IMO he was in that truck!

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IMO you are right. If we think about everything he said regarding the truck and the specificity of the waves, the who saw who, the side in which the car is parked on, it seems he was there himself to know all these details and word them the way he did.

Pootie said:

Do you have a link showing the conviction that led to the 15 month sentence? Is that the federal sentence? He got out in 2010, and I think all that stuff with the ex-wife happened in late 2005. I suppose the federal courts can move slowly.

So:

1. The long criminal conviction history in NC has been confirmed.
2. One felony stat burglary conviction occurred in Williamsburg, VA in 1996(http://ewsocis1.courts.state.va.us/CJISWeb/circuit.jsp)
3. He was in federal prison until 2/2010, but I don't know what the charges were.

Something tells me he's not going to be granted bail on the latest charges. He should get the book thrown at him, but you never know. With his history, I'd have thought he'd still be in prison in the first place.

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Federal charge:
Indictment (dated 12/16/05 for actions around or about 9/2/2005): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B75Xdj-wObM4Wng2T1BnajFnbTg/view?usp=sharing
Criminal judgment (dated 7/11/06): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B75Xdj-wObM4by1udHRQbm5wTnM/view?usp=sharing

One count 18 U.S. Code § 2113(a) - Bank robbery

The defendant is hereby committed to the custody of the United States Bureau of Prisons to be imprisoned for a term of FIFTY-FOUR (54) MONTHS.

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Pootie said:

Do you have a link showing the conviction that led to the 15 month sentence? Is that the federal sentence? He got out in 2010, and I think all that stuff with the ex-wife happened in late 2005. I suppose the federal courts can move slowly.

So:

1. The long criminal conviction history in NC has been confirmed.
2. One felony stat burglary conviction occurred in Williamsburg, VA in 1996(http://ewsocis1.courts.state.va.us/CJISWeb/circuit.jsp)
3. He was in federal prison until 2/2010, but I don't know what the charges were.

Something tells me he's not going to be granted bail on the latest charges. He should get the book thrown at him, but you never know. With his history, I'd have thought he'd still be in prison in the first place.

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http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?26791-WI-Tracey-Marie-Breure-16-Osceola-2005/page2

Go to post 36, then skip to 39. It is a catch-all thread. That's where I started at but it was way before MSM outed him so I just read it, retained that nugget, and moved on.

musicaljoke said:

Just speculating:
So, he leaves the keys -- er, the key -- only the ignition key, in the mailbox, not the key to unlock the doors of the truck as well. Was he careful to lock the doors of the truck, so that it could not be stolen if someone else found the key to the ignition in the mailbox? If so, how would AJ unlock the truck doors in order to use the ignition key? Or, was the truck left unlocked? Maybe he did leave "the keys" (plural) -- maybe the other key he left was to the hotel/motel? Which was it -- a key, or keys? And why would he be so specific as to correct his statement to make it clear that only (1) key was left in the mailbox -- just the ignition key? In my opinion, he is finding it difficult to keep his story straight.

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I'm starting to think he may have been implying that he didn't leave house keys in the mailbox to let us know that there was no way for a perp to get in the house with keys left in the mailbox so we don't assume that since he left car keys it included house keys. jmo

alexwood said:

From the transcribed interview :
WH
"I didn’t speak with her, I left the keys in the mailbox – just for the truck, the ignition key only, not the door key."

In the mailbox.....not in the house. Not in the house??!! He didn't want to place himself inside the house!
Read the ZH blog! Especially about "chores".

I believe this is why WH made a point of saying the key was in the box. IMO he was really trying to cover himself and say he didn't go inside the house. Where most normal parents would leave a car key!!

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Just speculating:
So, he leaves the keys -- er, the key -- only the ignition key, in the mailbox, not the key to unlock the doors of the truck as well. Was he careful to lock the doors of the truck, so that it could not be stolen if someone else found the key to the ignition in the mailbox? If so, how would AJ unlock the truck doors in order to use the ignition key? Or, was the truck left unlocked? Maybe he did leave "the keys" (plural) -- maybe the other key he left was to the hotel/motel? Which was it -- a key, or keys? And why would he be so specific as to correct his statement to make it clear that only (1) key was left in the mailbox -- just the ignition key? In my opinion, he is finding it difficult to keep his story straight.[/QUOTE]


I agree with the above and to add on to that....

I have also been thinking about his story of events that day. In the podcast he was very specific of the time he left work and went back to work and that the boss "reemed" him for being late because he was suppose to be back at 12:45 which is also the time he said AJ departed his presence. So I google mapped from the home address to his work and it should only take 20 minutes with no traffic. Did he get back to work at 1:10 or 1:15 per his statement OR could it possibly be that is when he showed up for the day. Perhaps he never went to work that morning after dropping the truck off. That would explain his boss reeming him for showing up at 1:10-1:15 which would be several hours late as opposed to 20-30 minutes late coming back from lunch. I hope LE checked with his place of employment and verified his times and that is why he was so specific on when he left and returned. This is starting to remind me of another missing person case of CM and EA's lies. He was also the last person to see her alive. All JMO

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cluciano63 said:

Also...hard to explain, these days, not knowing someone is an ex-con. Too easy to check, and should be automatic for anyone with children, Imo...

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You better believe Mr.O'Brien was sleuthed to the max before entering a relationship with me, lol. And I didn't even have children before him.

mrsobrien said:

You better believe Mr.O'Brien was sleuthed to the max before entering a relationship with me, lol. And I didn't even have children before him.

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If my husband didn't already have an NSA security clearance, my detective father would have been all over that s**t

NWLady said:

Has anyone else wondered, why would you pull back the carpet? What would you be looking for under the carpet??

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If you wanted to make it 'look' like you were looking for something, rather than planting something (moo, of course) then you might go through some of these theatrics. That's my hunch on this one.

My other hunch is that we aren't hearing much from LE because they had been waiting and watching and giving a lot of rope to WH. Just a hunch. Things may change in the days ahead now that he is in custody.

It just occurred to me - WH is a heating/ac guy. His employer sent this B&E, 2nd story man into unsuspecting customers homes. With women and kids home alone. Did the boss inform the customers that WH worked for of his background? Somehow I doubt it.

JnRyan said:

I wasn't aware that you could still buy meat there. I knew the family of the previous owner and you could do it back then.

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yes you can still buy

runninglowonbananas said:

I'm starting to think he may have been implying that he didn't leave house keys in the mailbox to let us know that there was no way for a perp to get in the house with keys left in the mailbox so we don't assume that since he left car keys it included house keys. jmo

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Agree, that is how i always read it.

wendybtn said:

It just occurred to me - WH is a heating/ac guy. His employer sent this B&E, 2nd story man into unsuspecting customers homes. With women and kids home alone. Did the boss inform the customers that WH worked for of his background? Somehow I doubt it.

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Yes, I've been waiting until I caught up to post this myself. The facebook comment by the guy claiming to be the employer assured everyone that he had done a background check and knew his record. What the heck?! If I was local, I would be ensuring that I and everyone I knew NEVER used this company. How scary!