SIDEBAR #48 - Arias/Alexander forum

ILikeToBendPages said:

I was reading back over nurmi's ad, and I noticed that he says that you can be accused of committing a sexalted crime with litte or no evidence. Sounds like what he did to Travis doesn't?

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Yes it does! Nurmi proved himself in this case! :gaah:

Sedona722 said:

Hear from prosecutor Juan Martinez about the ‪#‎JodiArias‬ trial when Troy Hayden goes one on one.

Snippets from @troyhaydenfox10:

"I wanted to make sure she could hear me"... Juan Martinez on why he yelled at Arias on the stand.

"I don't hate her. I hate her crime."

"What price do you put on justice?" Juan Martinez on financial concerns expressed during sentencing re-trial.

* * UPDATE: Interview will air at 5p., MST.
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How can I see this? Any link?

Will it be here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJg9wBPyKMNA5sRDnvzmkdg

Or here: http://www.fox10phoenix.com/category/234795/live-video1

I so love you guys here, so I need to say something, not to open up a debate, just to clarify what the inmate blurted out to hopefully give peace to the Alexanders in case they read here.

I am a retired RN. I spent 42 years as a critical care and ER nurse. I have seen much in my years in that capacity. I HAVE NEVER seen a gunshot wound to the head like Travis had, that did not swell immediately and bleed profusely into the surrounding tissue. It would have knocked him out and he would have been unconscious right afterward, therefore, it would have been last. He had no profuse bleeding in that area, even having layed for 5 days. The very fact he had no circulation would limit any blood. If he had been shot first, his heart would have circulated the bleeding profusely into the tissue. Had the bleeding occurred, the clotting mechanism would have started and by the 5th day, there would be a clot still there because there was no circulation to begin the process of desolving. Decomposition would not have removed the clot in his face, sinus cavity or brain tissue left. Decomp did occur with brain tissue, but that is vastly different than a what a humongous clot would be if there had been one.

He had already extravasted (bled out) into his chest cavity due to the laceration to the superior vena cava, rendering him in cardiac arrest. He most likely was in a tachycardia from the adrenaline response and was down on the floor as he bled and was already unconscious. By the time the neck slice occurred, he would have been unconscious and either stopped breathing or was having agonal respirations (end of life breath).

So, no, he could not have been conscious when she delivered the final slice to his throat and yes, the GSW was last. Dr. Horn got it correct in his autopsy report. I knew all this based on my experience and I knew she was lying when she said those things just to get back at the Alexanders yesterday.

This has bugged me so much, I just kept thinking and thinking about it and finally decided to say something. I want Travis' family to know that he did not suffer after the initial stab to the vena cava, that what she did to him was in rage and occurred after he was unconscious. It took what, a total of 2 minutes, I can't remember, but in that short time, he was taken by surprise, off guard, and had no time to fight very long for his life before the fatal blow to the vena cava.

I apologise for this, I just had to say it.

YESorNO said:

How can I see this? Any link?

Will it be here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJg9wBPyKMNA5sRDnvzmkdg

Or here: http://www.fox10phoenix.com/category/234795/live-video1

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I looked for links, but the only one was the second one you posted. I will watch that one later, as I believe they will live broadcast it.

Actually, they are saying on Twitter that both links you posted will broadcast the interview.

Bernina said:

Can't you get some type of temporary day nurse, hospice volunteer, or church volunteer? Lady, you're a LOT tougher than I!
I endured a broken clavicle for weeks when I was way, way, younger, 19, and it was pretty bad, but I thought it was a strep/bronchitis kinda thing. It wasn't unusual for me to break a few ribs when I got that, aurgh. That's what I developed after the first ex busted it. Stayed in bed for weeks. Never knew it broke till I was x-rayed when I got strep, bronchitis and a turn to pneumonia when I was 22.
One of those, "Hey dude, thanks for the memories".
Isn't there some organization you can get assistance from? You're worrying the heck out of me!

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well, then hop on a plane and come take care of me!

went to the doc today. xrays still look good but will take 6 weeks to mend. got a new sling better fitted for my long arm. if it just wasn't so painful i'd quit *****in'. he gave me more hydrocodone and in a polite way told me not to ask for more. haha so i'm thinking i will wear this tee shirt and sling for about 3 weeks before trying to change - what a nightmare it was to change clothes this morning lol p.s. i have some xanax to help knock me out at night. sorry for 3rd grade typing but it's the best i can do

a friend cut my grass today!

I found these about the interview and JM:

Troy Hayden @troyhaydenfox10 · 4h 4 hours ago
"I don't hate her. I hate her crime." Prosecutor Juan Martinez talks #JodiArias. Interview I've waited for.


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Troy Hayden @troyhaydenfox10 · 4h 4 hours ago
"I wanted to make sure she could hear me" Juan Martinez on why he yelled at #JodiArias on the stand. :hilarious:


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Troy Hayden @troyhaydenfox10 · 3h 3 hours ago
"What price do you put on justice?" Juan Martinez on financial concerns expressed during #JodiArias sent. re-trial.


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Troy Hayden retweeted
Jon Noetzel @fox10PhotoChief · 4h 4 hours ago
Exclusive. Hear from prosecutor Juan Martinez about the #jodiarias trial #fox10phoenix @troyhaydenfox10 goes 1 on 1


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Troy Hayden @troyhaydenfox10 · 38m 38 minutes ago
He was the prosecutor in the first major "social media" trial, but wait until you see Juan Martinez' cell phone. @5p #JodiArias

YESorNO said:

BBM I wanted Steven up there, but I think he wouldn't be able to hold all the anger (and grief) in and would, since the family had more leeway to speak of how they felt, not be able to control himself. Just look at all these pic of him at the trials: (heartbreaking and I see true anger and disgust from him more than his other siblings)

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I don't think he was at the sentencing because he wouldn't have be able to stop himself from going after the murderer after all these years and all the lies she fabricated, IMO.
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I now think I was disappointed ("Is that all there is" feeling ) at the sentencing because I wanted someone to do/say something like these Ytubes show: sheesh: )

[video=youtube;ri32v5_Odec]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri32v5_Odec[/video]
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A father confronts his son's killer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJtIjupffDk
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A Fathers Wrath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-BEpwGbNkQ

:gaah:

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Those are so heartbreaking. Yes, it was a little anticlimactic wasn't it ? I don't mind admitting it would have made my day if someone had gone after that killer in the courtroom. Wouldn't have minded one bit.

YESorNO said:

I found these about the interview and JM:

Troy Hayden @troyhaydenfox10 · 4h 4 hours ago
"I don't hate her. I hate her crime." Prosecutor Juan Martinez talks #JodiArias. Interview I've waited for.

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Troy Hayden @troyhaydenfox10 · 4h 4 hours ago
"I wanted to make sure she could hear me" Juan Martinez on why he yelled at #JodiArias on the stand. :hilarious:

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Troy Hayden @troyhaydenfox10 · 3h 3 hours ago
"What price do you put on justice?" Juan Martinez on financial concerns expressed during #JodiArias sent. re-trial.

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Troy Hayden retweeted
Jon Noetzel @fox10PhotoChief · 4h 4 hours ago
Exclusive. Hear from prosecutor Juan Martinez about the #jodiarias trial #fox10phoenix @troyhaydenfox10 goes 1 on 1

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Troy Hayden @troyhaydenfox10 · 38m 38 minutes ago
He was the prosecutor in the first major "social media" trial, but wait until you see Juan Martinez' cell phone. @5p #JodiArias

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Wow, great photos!

Exclusive: One-on-one with Jodi Arias' attorney (Wilmott, not Lawrence- 'cause he's done with the murderer, IMO)

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...attorney-interview-jennifer-wilmott/25787367/

Wilmott drinking the murderers Kool-aid for sure!


Link: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CClnfOMUwAAca1x.jpg

WOW- what a difference!


Link: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CClfWwsWEAAeZ6g.jpg
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Still wearing make-up :gaah:

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Time is wearing on her face, IMO.


Link: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CClknN7WIAAW9lT.jpg

[video=youtube;tKNt2N4Fzyc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKNt2N4Fzyc[/video]

The interview is on now.

Looks like the whole interview will be posted on Fox 10's Ytube later.

And Sheriff Joe has more problems, according to Fox 10 news.

ETA: Sedona has the interview already

Gave me a :giggle: to see the smile has been wiped off her face. Maybe they told her " smiling is not allowed"

YESorNO said:

Looks like the whole interview will be posted on Fox 10's Ytube later.

And Sheriff Joe has more problems, according to Fox 10 news.

ETA: Sedona has the interview already

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Whats up with the Sheriff?

ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKNt2N4Fzyc
The Interview

Ricki said:

Whats up with the Sheriff?

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Sheriff Joe Arpaio Repeats Request To Cancel Upcoming Contempt Hearing

http://kjzz.org/content/125697/sheriff-joe-arpaio-repeats-request-cancel-upcoming-contempt-hearing

Seems the supporters don't want the murderer's pic posted:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CClqzWkWgAAPW3w.jpg

Ricki said:

ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKNt2N4Fzyc
The Interview

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[video=youtube;tKNt2N4Fzyc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKNt2N4Fzyc[/video]



Haven't watched it because of BW issues.

Can anyone let me know what JM said?

I'd appreciate it. :blowkiss:

:tyou:

Sedona722 said:

Great news, Troy Hayden will interview Juan on Fox 10 tonight.

Troy Hayden ‏@troyhaydenfox10 3h3 hours ago

"I don't hate her. I hate her crime." Prosecutor Juan Martinez talks #JodiArias. Interview I've waited for.

Oh, here is the new inmate photo..... '
https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Tr...0510210691796/817656534977157/?type=1&theater

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BBM..........................:floorlaugh: Did she forget to say "Cheeze?" See she's sportin' those snazzy orange scrubs and a matching t-shirt..........by golly, isn't that just the cutest thing you ever saw? Color coordinated, although those bloodshot eyes don't match. Hand that little snowflake a tissue.........pfffft.