CO - Possible Serial Shooter Has Colorado Drivers on Edge #2

FindHG · Jul 2, 2015

Forager said:
If it had been posted, I missed it. Good to see you posting!

It looks like the Windsor Chief of Police is making an effort to get out there and talk with the citizenry, even if he isn't allowed to say anything about the details of the case.

Yes, you're both right, updated, with a detailed background and his perspective as Chief, on Windsor PD's growth over the years, and more...

FindHG said:
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Windsor police chief Michaels talks serial shooter case
Kyle Eustice, The Coloradoan, June 25, '15
interviews:

Police Chief John Michaels, who interned for the Ft. Collins PD for three years, before graduating from UNC, and in 1984 joining the Windsor PD, answers questions, parts quoted below:

"We’ve encouraged them to be on alert, to be watchful and to be calling us. They’ve responded. We have an awful lot of phone calls and emails on a regular basis keeping us posted and telling us concerns they may have. We try to address those as quickly as we can. We’ve functioned for many, many years in our department as a high profile and high visibility department, which means we put patrol cars out on our streets as often as we can. We put a high emphasis on that."

[...]

"We will get through this."

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"Fifty percent of arrests are people from Windsor and 50 percent are not from Windsor... from Greeley, Fort Collins, Loveland or other outside areas.."

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Forager · Jul 2, 2015

Originally Posted by SugarQueen
Hmmmm, wonder if our guy was traveling thru Utah about this time? https://www.ksl.com/?sid=34882261

Foxfire said:
SugarQueen, did you read all the comments for the Herriman, Utah article? Interesting.. Not sure if is our guy, but I am seriously beginning to wonder if the motive for the rash of shootings is not terror related involving multiple shooters and states..jmo

Shooting out windows appears to be a self camouflaging crime. Mohammed Whitaker, in Kansas City, was taking shots at people with a .38 without them or the police really understanding what was happening. In SugarQueen's article above about the Utah shooting, one guy comments that he reported to the police that his window had been shot out on that freeway in Utah, but that they didn't take him seriously. And window shatterings do sometimes occur 'innocently', even as the result of errant hunter's bullets. Several other commentators mentioned stray bullets hitting their windows in the distant pass.

So if the NOCO window shatterings involves a terror group, they have managed to pick a uniquely inconspicuous violent crime as their vehicle. Might the window shatterings be part of a training effort?

Forager · Jul 2, 2015

SugarQueen said:
Nathaniel has a posting to his "family" in Fort Lupton. He also tells them not to " like" the post. Bet they aren't bio " family". ( yellow and blue posting about brothers)

Thank you for finding that!

A "family" in Ft. Lupton, and multiple clusters of clearly malicious random road shootings over recent years in the NOCO area and in neighboring states. Wow. IMO.

Do you have a date for that post of his?

SugarQueen · Jul 2, 2015

Forager said:
Thank you for finding that!

A "family" in Ft. Lupton, and multiple clusters of clearly malicious random road shootings over recent years in the NOCO area and in neighboring states. Wow. IMO.

Do you have a date for that post of his?

That post is dated May 5th. He also has a link to a review of Timberleaf Apartments. Not sure where that is, or what the significance is. Possibly a past address?

ETA... Timberleaf apts are in Lakewood, Colorado.

SugarQueen · Jul 2, 2015

Does anyone have a link to the grandparents thread? I thought we had one but can't seem to find it. Thanks

Foxfire · Jul 2, 2015

Forager said:
Shooting out windows appears to be a self camouflaging crime. Mohammed Whitaker, in Kansas City, was taking shots at people with a .38 without them or the police really understanding what was happening. In SugarQueen's article above about the Utah shooting, one guy comments that he reported to the police that his window had been shot out on that freeway in Utah, but that they didn't take him seriously. And window shatterings do sometimes occur 'innocently', even as the result of errant hunter's bullets. Several other commentators mentioned stray bullets hitting their windows in the distant pass.

So if the NOCO window shatterings involves a terror group, they have managed to pick a uniquely inconspicuous violent crime as their vehicle. Might the window shatterings be part of a training effort?

Police: Rocks, not bullets, caused damage to teen's car
By Celeste Tholen RosenlofJune 1st, 2015
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=34884378

HERRIMAN, UTAH — Police said Monday that investigators determined damage caused to three cars in the Herriman area was not gunshots, as one victim believed, but rocks.

Saturday night, some teens were driving eastbound on 13400 South near 6200 West when they heard three loud noises and the rear driver’s side window shattered. At the time Kylee Stamper and her friend Brenna Vincent thought it was gunshots.

Monday morning, however, Unified Police Department said investigators determined the damage was caused by rocks, possibly projected by a slingshot. Lt. Justin Hoyal emphasized that they did not ever believe gunshots occurred.
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<See 25 comments> <a parent of one of the young girls in the car chimed in>

SugarQueen · Jul 2, 2015

OT tip..... Full mailboxes can't receive pms. Lol

margarita25 · Jul 3, 2015

SugarQueen said:
Nathaniel has a posting to his "family" in Fort Lupton. He also tells them not to " like" the post. Bet they aren't bio " family". ( yellow and blue posting about brothers)

Ft. Lupton? I'm unable to load facebook bc my computer sucks, but that area has been on my radar for sure, jmo...

margarita25 · Jul 3, 2015

SugarQueen said:
OT tip..... Full mailboxes can't receive pms. Lol

(So that's the secret to not getting pms? I'm going to load my mailbox right now! J/k)

Foxfire · Jul 3, 2015

SugarQueen said:
That post is dated May 5th. He also has a link to a review of Timberleaf Apartments. Not sure where that is, or what the significance is. Possibly a past address?

ETA... Timberleaf apts are in Lakewood, Colorado.

Timberleaf apts 1388 Garrison St., Lakewood, CO to Loveland, CO
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Lov...8a58cedbcca8e99!2m2!1d-105.098953!2d39.738011

margarita25 · Jul 3, 2015

Motorist shoots Aurora bicyclist with pellet gun
http://www.9news.com/story/news/local/2015/07/02/aurora-bicyclist-shot-with-pellet-gun/29648653/

"The victim told police he saw someone in a gray car pull up next to him and point a muzzle out of the window. The shooter pulled the trigger and took off. Police could not say if it was a random incident or if the man was targeted."

margarita25 · Jul 3, 2015

Task force ends search of Loveland dairy farm
http://www.9news.com/story/news/local/2015/07/02/task-force-loveland/29616755/

A task force evidence recovery team responded to the 6800 block of County Road 9 in Loveland to follow up on leads from tips they have received (Photo: Nick McGill/KUSA)

FindHG · Jul 3, 2015

Northern Colorado shooting task force checks new leads near Ft Collins-Loveland airport
Deb Stanley, Amanda Zitzman, and Team, TheDenverChannel,
9:29 am, Jul 2, 15, 2 hours ago

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"The dairy owner texted 7NEWS: "All I want to do is help the task force find the person guilty of these crimes and unfortunately my land was stuck in the middle of it but I hope they found whatever they were looking for."

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video includes good views

Northern Colorado shootings tips lead task force to Loveland
By Kieran Nicholson, The Denver Post,
7/2/15 10:11:31 am mdt

"David Moore, spokesman for the task force, said Wednesday that tips continued to pour in "in the several hundreds." He said every tip is followed up on."

margarita25 · Jul 3, 2015

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A task force evidence recovery team responded to the 6800 block of County Road 9 in Loveland to follow up on leads from tips they have received (Photo: Nick McGill/KUSA)

http://www.9news.com/story/news/local/2015/07/02/task-force-loveland/29616755/

margarita25 · Jul 3, 2015

http://www.9news.com/story/news/local/2015/07/02/task-force-loveland/29616755/

A task force evidence recovery team responded to the 6800 block of County Road 9 in Loveland to follow up on leads from tips they have received (Photo: Nick McGill/KUSA)

"The search appeared to mirror what happened June 25 at Allendale Park in Loveland, where dozens of FBI personnel spent hours scouring through thick grass and trees.

Investigators have not said what they were looking for or why they were searching that particular area in Loveland Thursday."

A task force evidence recovery team dedicated to investigating a pattern of shootings in northern Colorado ended its search of a Loveland dairy Farm Thursday.(Photo: KUSA)

FindHG · Jul 3, 2015

Thank you for the screencaps margarita. From the New7 video posted here:

margarita25 · Jul 3, 2015

More photos of today's search:
https://mobile.twitter.com/AmandaZitzman

This is the grassy area evidence techs appeared to be focusing on @DenverChannel

CR9 now open. Couple officers still on scene in front of dairy farm - investigating #NOCO shootings @DenverChannel

This is how far they're keeping us back - focus is about a half mile down the road from CR30 - on CR9 @DenverChannel

NOCO shootings task force on CR 9 in Loveland looking into a tip. Full reports 4 @TheNowDenver 5,6 @DenverChannel

NoCo_shooting_task_force_searches_near_F_3134320001_20724588_ver1.0_640_480.jpg

Northern Colorado shooting task force checks new leads near Ft Collins-Loveland airport
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...ks-new-leads-near-ft-collins-loveland-airport

margarita25 · Jul 3, 2015

noco task force search july 2_1435855431365_20690266_ver1.0_640_480.jpg

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...ks-new-leads-near-ft-collins-loveland-airport

"The investigators were in the 6800 block of County Road 9 in Loveland at 8:30 a.m. on Thursday, officials said. That's near County Road 30, Nelson Reservoir and the Fort Collins-Loveland Municipal Airport.

FBI Evidence Response Team members were searching properties in the rural area, including a Mountain View Farm, a dairy farm at at 6875 N. County Road 9."

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"7NEWS Photographer Brad Bogott visited the scene and saw a large presence of investigators, including some wearing FBI Evidence Response Team clothing. They had also set up a tent uphill from Bogott's position, neighboring the Mountian View Farm Dairy."

Forager · Jul 3, 2015

margarita25 said:
Motorist shoots Aurora bicyclist with pellet gun
http://www.9news.com/story/news/local/2015/07/02/aurora-bicyclist-shot-with-pellet-gun/29648653/

"The victim told police he saw someone in a gray car pull up next to him and point a muzzle out of the window. The shooter pulled the trigger and took off. Police could not say if it was a random incident or if the man was targeted."

This has got to be the same dufus who shattered the three car windows in Aurora on the night of 6/17/15, no? Thursday's shooting (the yellow circle on the map) is literally around the corner from the three shatterings (shown, together in a single red marker). The two locations are a 1.5 mile drive from one another.

His work lacks the finesse of this year's window shatterings further north, in my humble. The shooting happened in a densely populated suburban area, and his car and his weapon were seen by the victim. The 6/17/15 Aurora shooter foolishly stayed around after his first attack to make two more. We've never seen that in the shatterings we know about further north.

Case Map link

Foxfire · Jul 3, 2015

Quote Originally Posted by SugarQueen View Post
Nathaniel has a posting to his "family" in Fort Lupton. He also tells them not to " like" the post. Bet they aren't bio " family". ( yellow and blue posting about brothers)

Forager said:
Thank you for finding that!

A "family" in Ft. Lupton, and multiple clusters of clearly malicious random road shootings over recent years in the NOCO area and in neighboring states. Wow. IMO.

Do you have a date for that post of his?

Former residences of Nathaniel Scheiern

Glendale, CA
Shafter, CA

Englewood, CO
Lakewood, CO
Fort Lupton, CO
Dacono, CO

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