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Aleph said:
That RaShawn's killer also taunted the family - that is a very big deal. Great find.


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Thanks aleph. The way he says "I didnt know you were a gangster" reminds me of the half-breed slur too.
 
LindsayLohan6 said:
http://gaycitynews.nyc/gcn_408/younggaymanhacked.html
"Det. Brian Sessa discounted the relevance of the second bag of items, specifically saying the description of the bloody drill bits was erroneous. “It was more like rust,” "

Hm....more like rust? wtf does that mean was it rust or blood? I doubt the NYPD would come forward with the toolbag info if they didnt first make sure it wasnt simply a MTA workers bag (1 OF 15) discarded in its natural habitat. I'm thinking there is more to the bag than just something like rust. I also read Rashawn was anatomically traced on the skin before he was dismembered. But yea here's what doesnt make sense about the bag:

Don;t you think the NYPD would determine if it was blood before tracing the bags origin to be an exclusively manufactured one of 15 bags for the MTA before releasing that info to the public. Positively yes. There's no way. I also read the nypd's theory of the crime was that the body parts where carried inside the toolbag into the different subway tracks before being switched into garbage bags and dumped. So more like blood
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Well, what do I think? A law enforcement agency making mistakes... A law enforcement agency covering up evidence... The former seems more plausible to me. In the heat of the event, rust may have been mixed up for dried blood.

What I'm really thinking is, no fingerprints on the bags? Though, if it's the same band committing all the crimes dating back to perhaps 1996, it is possible that they leave no fingerprints.

As I can figure, Rashawn's case was sensational in the beginning, but it cooled itself down because you know Rashawn was black and gay.
 
LindsayLohan6 said:
Fred%Edna and just K....did you ever catch this?
Allison Jackson-Foy loved dancing, swimming in the backyard pool and family trips to an upstate dude ranch when she was growing up in Syosset and Oyster Bay.

Back then, she was Allison Mazalewski. Now, sadness tempers her family's happy memories.

On Sept. 10, results of DNA testing found that skeletal remains discovered on April 26 in a wooded area in Wilmington, N.C., belonged to Jackson-Foy, missing since July 30, 2006, when she was 34. The remains of another woman missing since 2007 also were found at the same time. A final autopsy report for Jackson-Foy is pending and a police investigation continues.

Detectives are not ruling out the possibility that the women were killed by the same person, a spokeswoman for the Wilmington Police Department, said last week.

Jackson-Foy disappeared after someone called a cab to take her home from Junction Pub & Billiards, where she met a friend. She lived in Wilmington with her second husband, Michael Foy, and two daughters, Courtney Jackson, 14, and Jordan Foy, 6...


AMBER GREW UP NEAR WILMINGTON!!!
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Yes, and KO may have moved back to Wilmington. They have several outstanding similar cases. Alison was last seen leaving a bar not far the neighborhood of someone I know. Alison was not a prostitute but her remains were found in a dump site with those of another missing woman who was a prostitute. Very sad cases.
 
LindsayLohan6 said:
This guy gets no love at all. Emre just pointed this out to me: The man from 1999 in suffolk with severe scoliosis and the steel rod in his back was wearing striped bikini underwear!
http://www.doenetwork.org/hot/hotcase1947.html
How many missing people with a steel rod in their back?
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We have a mini medical history for this person
A stainless steel rod in the back with 3 surgical screws; Severe scoliosis; and old fractures on the right hand. Had a bifid xyphoid (xiphoid) process.
 
2 victims within 3 months BOTH found wearing BATHING SUITS under their jeans! Where are they coming from?
Four years earlier in March 2000, an inspector from the Department of Transportation was walking alongside the eastbound side of the Northern State Parkway, a half mile east of Wolf Hill Road in Dix Hills, when he found a black plastic garbage bag propped up against a chain link fence 50 feet off the shoulder, not visible from the highway.

U-420000973 had been shot three to five times in the head and torso with a large-caliber pistol. His body was badly decomposed.

Investigators describe the man as white, possibly Hispanic; between 35 and 45 years old; 140-150 lbs.; between 5’8” and 6’ tall; short, dark hair; and wearing a khaki-colored, short-sleeved V-neck knit shirt with black trim; a T-shirt with an Atlantic City emblem on it; size 30-32 Levi blue jeans; and a blue bathing suit. He was not wearing shoes or socks and had been dead for about two months, according to autopsy reports. Cause of death: murder. The man’s teeth were decayed, and about eight were missing. But there were fingerprints.
http://archive.longislandpress.com/2010/07/01/long-islands-unidentified-murder-victims/
 
Two victims with blue striped boxers. from a pack the killer owned and dressed them in?

FOUND: May 20, 1998 across from 33 Leahy Street, Brentwood in overgrown sump

White male, 15-17 years old, white boxers with blue vertical stripes, green/black jacket size XL labeled “Alliance Down,” shirt with “Chicago” written on it, black hiking boots “Buffalo” brand USA size 8.5 yellow stud/post earring with green stone, white plastic rosary beads, green plastic key ring inscribed “Hands of Gold Jewelry,” a store in Copiague. Dead for up to six months. NCIC#: U-950001835

FOUND: Nov. 23, 2000 between exits 68 and 69, south side of eastbound LIE

White or Hispanic male, 20-30 years old, 5’6”, 112 lbs, short black hair, has surgical staple possibly from a previous fracture, wearing M blue/white striped Gap boxers. Dead for about three weeks. NCIC#: U-660001512
 
because he left his Dna on their own boxers/wanted to keep their underwear as trophies, he might have switched them out with new pairs
 
I couldn't help but notice how close PS 149 Danny Kaye is to the "crackhouse" with dismembered remains on Belmont Avenue.
 
LindsayLohan6 said:
http://doenetwork.org/cases/1477umny.html

Included in the above link is a photo of the mickey mouse blanket John Valentine was found wrapped in Rockaway 2005. To me...the blanket looks kind of old...anybody recognize it?
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The race identification is a strange issue. They do it by assessing the skull and as with this case you usually get unsure, unidentified, uncertain races.

However there's a method. It's called DNA profiling. Doesn't even need a bone. Just DNA tells what genes an individual has thus hinting about the actual appearance.

http://155.97.32.9/~bbenham/2510 Spring 09/The Inconvenient Science of Racial DNA Profiling.pdf
 
Seaslug44 said:
Another HEADLESS body. This one found in 1987...

SOURCE: Students Find Parts Of Skeleton in Woods: [NASSAU AND SUFFOLK Edition]
By Shirley E. Perlman. Newsday [Long Island, N.Y] 24 Mar 1987: 18.
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Another HEADLESS body. This one found in 1987...

SOURCE: Students Find Parts Of Skeleton in Woods: [NASSAU AND SUFFOLK Edition]
By Shirley E. Perlman. Newsday [Long Island, N.Y] 24 Mar 1987: 18.

A group of Bellport junior high students yesterday alerted school officials to the skeletal remains of a headless body they found while riding their bikes Sunday in a wooded area in East Patchogue.

Police estimated that the bones had been in the woods, east of Sipps Avenue and north of Sunrise Highway, for at least several months. Efforts to determine the age and sex of the person are underway at the Suffolk County medical examiner's office.

Det. Sgt. William Pepper said police found "only portions" of a body, including a thigh bone, pelvic area, rib cage, arm and hand. Pepper said the bones might be those of a female because of a black, lacy remnant of clothing found on the arm bone. He said police were searching the area for the head and other parts of the body.



I just noticed something interesting; that Sipps Ave dead ends into Jamaica Ave.
John Bittrolffs Dad used to live on this road.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K5WY-6D1
 

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Interesting. I wonder where he was located at that time- he'd have been about 21 years old.
 
LindsayLohan6 said:
This guy gets no love at all. Emre just pointed this out to me: The man from 1999 in suffolk with severe scoliosis and the steel rod in his back was wearing striped bikini underwear!
http://www.doenetwork.org/hot/hotcase1947.html
How many missing people with a steel rod in their back?
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WILLIAM C. LAFFERTY?
Described decomposition a little too much for 6 days... but walks with a limp ???


https://www20.state.nj.us/NJSP_Ambe...4c:pnX8?parameter=mp_detail&mp_id=794&type=mp

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/1231/4/

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/2731
 
Peaches Doe

"With no leads to the woman’s identity, the police published a picture of the approximately two-inch wide tattoo in a national tattoo magazine, in the hopes of finding the artist who did the work. They received a call from a man in Connecticut who claimed he remembered giving the tattoo to a woman.

The artist said he remembered the customer as a young black woman, about 18 or 19 years old, who was accompanied by two women, an aunt and a cousin. During the session, he also claimed she told him she was from either the Bronx or Long Island and that she was in Connecticut because having trouble with her boyfriend at the time. It is possible the woman had other tattoos on her arms or lower legs that the killer did not want found."

This story doesn't seem to make sense. Why wouldn't a girl with an aunt and a cousin be reported missing?

For a moment assume the tat artist is telling the truth, in what kind of scenario does that story make sense?


Consider this;

This is Lora Stubbs
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/10684

For her it says: DNA Sample submitted - Tests complete

And this is Peaches Doe
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/11652

Her DNA sample is tested.

But under the page it says
The following ruled out as being this decedent: Lora Stubbs

Now, if there's a DNA sample for Stubbs and for Peaches, wouldn't Lora be eliminated automatically?

Is there an automation or not?..

In other words, is it possible that the DNA sample of Peaches may not be compared against all samples in the DB?
 
Peaches Doe

Detective Bill Brosnan has never forgotten the summer day ten years ago when a girl's body was found in a large plastic container in the woods of Hempstead Lake Park.

"It was basically a torso. The arms were cut at the shoulder, the legs were removed just below the knee, and she was decapitated," Brosnan told CBS 2.

The reason was obvious. "So nobody would identify her. If you ID her, it goes back to someone," Brosnan said. "I truly believe if I identify her, I'll find the killer."

Brosnan searched for the rest of the girl's body in the surrounding woods and at numerous morgues. Divers probed
the depths of the nearby reservoir, but the search was unsuccessful. Investigators now could only base their case on details from the autopsy, which revealed that the woman was under 30, possibly a teenager. She was African-American with a light complexion, and she appeared to have a c-section scar.


Steve Cullen, the owner of Phantom Tattoos at 122 E. Main St. in Bristol recognized the tattoo as being the same one he had done on a young woman.

Cullen described the unusual colors and specific imperfections of the tattoo so accurately that Brosnan immediately went to Bristol to interview him.

Cullen described her as being a light-skinned African-American woman, possibly biracial, around the ages of 18 to 20. He had drawn the tattoo on her the year before the homicide. Cullen recalled that the woman was from New York and had come to Bristol to visit friends. She had entered his studio with another black woman, he said. While she got her tattoo, the two women remarked that they were going to East Hartford later that night to visit another friend, Cullen said.

“In 19 years of practice and 32 years of being around the industry, that is the only tattoo I have ever done or seen of a peach,” Cullen said. “And unless you’re from Georgia, tattoos of peaches are very rare.”

Cullen said the woman did not have a southern drawl to her voice nor did she have a Spanish or urban accent.

“She seemed like a good kid, not the trouble type, just a typical fun-loving kid,” the tattoo artist said. “I got the impression that her friend was definitely from the [Bristol] area.”

Cullen originally had a paper record of the woman’s session. Tragically, many of his records, including hers, were destroyed by flood damage.

“I still keep in contact with the police about this case. She must have a parent or friends looking for her. Why hasn’t anyone stepped up to the plate to find her?” Cullen asked. “Whole thing’s a damn shame.”
 
Emre E said:
Peaches Doe

Consider this;

This is Lora Stubbs
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/10684

For her it says: DNA Sample submitted - Tests complete

And this is Peaches Doe
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/11652

Her DNA sample is tested.

But under the page it says
The following ruled out as being this decedent: Lora Stubbs

Now, if there's a DNA sample for Stubbs and for Peaches, wouldn't Lora be eliminated automatically?

Is there an automation or not?..

In other words, is it possible that the DNA sample of Peaches may not be compared against all samples in the DB?
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I think with NamUs the DNA samples have to be compared manually, it's not automatic. The national CODIS system is more automatic, but there can be separate local / state / national "levels" that are not compared with each other, resulting in some samples getting "stuck" at a local level and never compared to other sampes at a more national level - a sample has to be "promoted" to national level before it can be compared to others at that level (I think that's how it works, CODIS is very complex and confusing).

From a few exchanges I've had with NamUs folks, it's up to the case manager to decide whether ruled-out names get put into profiles. Some profiles have dozens or hundreds of ruled-out names. Peaches no doubt has had loads of suggestions and ruled-outs that haven't been put up
 
biscuits222 said:
I think with NamUs the DNA samples have to be compared manually, it's not automatic. The national CODIS system is more automatic, but there can be separate local / state / national "levels" that are not compared with each other, resulting in some samples getting "stuck" at a local level and never compared to other sampes at a more national level - a sample has to be "promoted" to national level before it can be compared to others at that level (I think that's how it works, CODIS is very complex and confusing).

From a few exchanges I've had with NamUs folks, it's up to the case manager to decide whether ruled-out names get put into profiles. Some profiles have dozens or hundreds of ruled-out names. Peaches no doubt has had loads of suggestions and ruled-outs that haven't been put up
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Thank you so much.. That was really helpful.
 
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