MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #11

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cady said:
JMO I think that they went out of state based upon tips they received that didn't pan out. Everyone was pointing fingers at people they had disputes with and I am not at all confident that local LE were getting the straight story from people they trusted in town. It was probably MBI that went on a wild goose chase to other states. JMO JMO
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Hmm... Maybe establishing alibis for people who said they weren't in Mississippi? Checking cameras at places one might stop in a road trip?
Moo

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DeDee said:
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The quote attributed to Thompson doesn't make much sense the way it is written. Why did he use the personal pronoun "them"?

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DeDee: See my 5/1/2015 comments about this subject on post #868 of Thread #10, and FelicityLemon’s earlier 4/17/2015 post #788 of Thread #10, with a Panolian newspaper clipping included. In the article Sheriff Darby used both plural pronouns “they're” and "they've," and singular references “the person” and "he" to describe the perpetrator(s). So there is some real confusion, at least in the public domain, as to just how many persons LE thinks were involved. Perhaps there is "drug connected corruption, death threats and some really rough people" involving many persons which lead to Jessica's murder, involving only one person?

JMO
 
Remember when CW said, "it happened after they left"....and everybody wanted to know who THEY were? I think that it is common vernacular down there to refer to a person as "they", so, "they" can mean one person or more than one. I also think that CW may know who Jessica was seeing in that time frame, but does not know if that is the person who killed her. CW was having a birthday party for her child that night. We do not know if JC stopped in there after getting gas and then went on to Batesville. We don't know if she brought someone back to Courtland from Batesville. I do not think that CW knows, either. JMO
 
cady said:
Remember when CW said, "it happened after they left"....and everybody wanted to know who THEY were? I think that it is common vernacular down there to refer to a person as "they", so, "they" can mean one person or more than one. I also think that CW may know who Jessica was seeing in that time frame, but does not know if that is the person who killed her. CW was having a birthday party for her child that night. We do not know if JC stopped in there after getting gas and then went on to Batesville. We don't know if she brought someone back to Courtland from Batesville. I do not think that CW knows, either. JMO
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Good point, cady, thanks for that insight. So Sheriff Darby could have been speaking consistently the whole time about an individual suspect. What was I thinking, having lived most of my life south of the Mason-Dixon line? Here is an article on the subject of the singular use of "they":
http://www.dailywritingtips.com/is-“they”-acceptable-as-a-singular-pronoun/

Note that it is especially common in "written British English" and of course, the South maintained closer ties with England after the colonies separated, which is the reason for that southern drawl instead of the clipped Yankee brogue. Southerners continued to speak the way the English spoke in colonial days long after the North stopped.

A little bit off topic, but have you ever heard of the verb "to tump" as in "Don't tump the bucket over"? If not, then you've probably never lived in the South. It's probably a combination of tilt and dump, since it means to tilt something over and dump out its contents.​
 
rbarber17 said:


Good point, cady, thanks for that insight. So Sheriff Darby could have been speaking consistently the whole time about an individual suspect. What was I thinking, having lived most of my life south of the Mason-Dixon line? Here is an article on the subject of the singular use of "they":
http://www.dailywritingtips.com/is-“they”-acceptable-as-a-singular-pronoun/

Note that it is especially common in "written British English" and of course, the South maintained closer ties with England after the colonies separated, which is the reason for that southern drawl instead of the clipped Yankee brogue. Southerners continued to speak the way the English spoke in colonial days long after the North stopped.

A little bit off topic, but have you ever heard of the verb "to tump" as in "Don't tump the bucket over"? If not, then you've probably never lived in the South. It's probably a combination of tilt and dump, since it means to tilt something over and dump out its contents.​
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I have never ever heard of the word "tump" and if you had never provided meaning I would have guessed it meant tummy bump. Sheriff Darby likely won't clarify what he meant until arrest(s), but jmo. Just like Jessica's dad said Jessica beat out someone for $500, I think he meant she schemed someone out of $500, but maybe the "beat" was used for a different reason or typo Idk. Jmo/
 
BirdycatNY said:
I have never ever heard of the word "tump" and if you had never provided meaning I would have guessed it meant tummy bump. Sheriff Darby likely won't clarify what he meant until arrest(s), but jmo. Just like Jessica's dad said Jessica beat out someone for $500, I think he meant she schemed someone out of $500, but maybe the "beat" was used for a different reason or typo Idk. Jmo/
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BirdycatNY -- there's a slight variation used up there in Atlantic City: "Don't Trump the casino over..." ;-)

I agree 100% about the $500 being "beat" out of someone meant swindling them out of that amount, not physically beating them. Somebody about 90 lbs. dripping wet and knee high to a grasshopper is not likely to have been physically beating anybody.
 
I just decided to check in after a long break. So happy to see some activity here. My two cents on the use of the pronouns (they/them etc,), having grown up in the south, I agree with the posters here that believe individuals are/could be referring to only one individual We southerners use these pronouns this way all the time. I don't even notice it until its been pointed out!

rbarber, thanks for the laugh on the use of the word "tump" I've used this word and NEVER even thought about it until now! It will forever stand out for me now!

Today is the first time I have heard about the incident involving Jessica beating someone out of their money (yes, that phrase is another one always used in the south). Now that is a scenario that I can picture as a fit for this crime...A little extreme maybe, but I could buy that.

I hope we are coming up on a close on this case.
 
rbarber17 said:


Good point, cady, thanks for that insight. So Sheriff Darby could have been speaking consistently the whole time about an individual suspect. What was I thinking, having lived most of my life south of the Mason-Dixon line? Here is an article on the subject of the singular use of "they":
http://www.dailywritingtips.com/is-“they”-acceptable-as-a-singular-pronoun/

Note that it is especially common in "written British English" and of course, the South maintained closer ties with England after the colonies separated, which is the reason for that southern drawl instead of the clipped Yankee brogue. Southerners continued to speak the way the English spoke in colonial days long after the North stopped.

A little bit off topic, but have you ever heard of the verb "to tump" as in "Don't tump the bucket over"? If not, then you've probably never lived in the South. It's probably a combination of tilt and dump, since it means to tilt something over and dump out its contents.​
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I use "they" a lot for a single person or more than one. It covers male and female so avoids using he or she. It is probably used more in the South, but I never noticed it. (Rather like I don't have an accent here either. ;)) And yes...tump is word. lol Means to tip over or overturn.
 
SeriouslySearching said:
I use "they" a lot for a single person or more than one. It covers male and female so avoids using he or she. It is probably used more in the South, but I never noticed it. (Rather like I don't have an accent here either. ;)) And yes...tump is word. lol Means to tip over or overturn.
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I've never lived in the South and I hear and say "they" and "their" even though it's incorrect or in disagreement because sometimes "he or she" or "one" feels unnatural. I think it's become accepted shorthand in a lot of places. "If anyone knows anything about this case, we ask they come forward..." Like that.

I would never suspect it meant anything other than there isn't an English genderless single person pronoun.
 
SeriouslySearching said:
I use "they" a lot for a single person or more than one. It covers male and female so avoids using he or she. It is probably used more in the South, but I never noticed it. (Rather like I don't have an accent here either. ;)) And yes...tump is word. lol Means to tip over or overturn.
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It's pretty common and correct in some instances, like when you don't want to identify someone ; "This person believes what they saw so there could be some truth to it."

But "she was there. When they left - when she left, that's when it happened..."
The correction makes it suspect but not definite. Simply because of emotions we all misspeak at times, IMO.

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[video=youtube;duIylcY2_fs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duIylcY2_fs[/video]
 
In The Panolian article from April 17, 2015, linked previously here;
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...la-County-Dec-2014-10&p=11701733#post11701733

Darby says;
"we have a couple of possibilities, but they're not going to tell us; they're real bad drug addicts"

RH & AH? There were reports of some fake pills, also a history of Meth manufacturing... other things...

"The history of the one we suspect (is that he) has done this before"

RH has a history of Arson along with his brother.

"these people will kill you or threaten to kill you and they can kill you in numerous ways"

The whole family has a history of drugs, arson and murder.

Ben Chambers said:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/08/19/jessica-chambers-father-were-near-end/32024837/

"I believe it&#8217;s going to be who we thought it was from the front. I really believe it," Chambers said, adding that he thinks it's going to come down to a situation where Jessica "beat" someone over $500."

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MOO
 
MANY, to put it mildly, of the characters in this sad saga are drug users and drug profiteers, including various members of JC's family, as we have seen for over 8 months. If they truly find the correct culprits, with very clear evidence, I'll probably accept the findings......but, I really think that the ones her family and friends suspect are NOT the people who perpetrated this upon JC. We shall see...............JMO.................I just do not think that this is about drugs JMO
 
ModMaiden said:
Isn't that like giving the killer(s) a heads up if what he says is true? I certainly hope they get the people who did this and BC's comments didn't hurt the investigation. Could this be the incident at the gas station where she got into a fight?

Glad to see this thread is still very active, I always think about Jessica.
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BC almost named the suspect with that statement about it being the one Jessica beat out of $500. I don't believe it had anything to do with beating someone out of $500, but if it did, BC surely gave him a heads up that he was going to be arrested, didn't he? I don't think BC would have said that if that was really the person they suspected. I think it was a diversionary tactic so that the real killer/s would think they have gotten completely away with it because they are about to arrest the wrong person. JMO
 
cady said:
Remember when CW said, "it happened after they left"....and everybody wanted to know who THEY were? I think that it is common vernacular down there to refer to a person as "they", so, "they" can mean one person or more than one. I also think that CW may know who Jessica was seeing in that time frame, but does not know if that is the person who killed her. CW was having a birthday party for her child that night. We do not know if JC stopped in there after getting gas and then went on to Batesville. We don't know if she brought someone back to Courtland from Batesville. I do not think that CW knows, either. JMO
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I doubt "they" is commonly used in the South to indicate one person. I'm about as southern as "they" come, and I would never use that word if I was speaking about only one person.
 
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