A short recap;
What I believe is;
LISK is a band of Black (Hispanic) individuals. Two, possibly three perps. There is at least one kinship relation within the Band. The Band is responsible for the murders of;
Fire Island Doe 1
Peaches Doe 2
Jane Doe and John Doe 1997 3
Eve Eskin Brown 4
Jane Doe 2000 5
John Doe 2000 6
Andre Jamal Isaac
Jessica Taylor
John Doe 2003 7
Rashawn Brazell 8
Tirrel Santiago (missing)
Maureen Brainard Barnes 9
Thalia Stathis 10
Tanya Rush
The Mom and The Baby
Melissa Barthelemy 11
Megan Waterman
Amber Lynn Costello
1.
http://doenetwork.org/cases/1019ufny.html
2.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaches_(murder_victim)
3.
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/2-bagged-bodies-jolt-crew-article-1.777684
4. There is a named individual interviewed by the police. Ms. Brown’s phone was found in his possession. And a small time car thief, whose blood was on the steering wheel (claims pried his hand trying to steal the airbag)
5.
https://identifyus.org/cases/9680
6.
https://identifyus.org/cases/2725
7.
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/13094
8. There is a named individual interviewed by the police. He’s thought to have a date with Mr. Brazell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Rashawn_Brazell
9. There is an individual who is reported to have robbed Ms. Barnes. Her sister says this was looked into by NYPD. There may be a named individual in that case as well
10. Her phone records were subpoenaed by Police.
11. There is a named individual interviewed by the police. Ms. Barthelemy’s phone was found in his possession.
The Asian Male is Tirrel Santiago. The Band is not from Long Island. They are from Brooklyn, NY and/or New Jersey.
- Megan kidnapped silently suggests more than one perp, probably armed.
- Andre Jamal Isaac murder suggests more than one perp, confirmed armed.
- Body parts being further in the bush than intact bodies suggests more than one perp. Probably two people holding the body by the ends and tossing onto the bushes.
- Peaches Doe disposal suggests more than one perp
- Jessica Taylor and John Doe 2003; Jane Doe 2000 and John Doe 2000 murders (taking control of two victims) suggests more than one perp, probably armed, probably busting them on business. As can be clearly seen in the case of Jane Doe and John Doe 1997
- Ocean Parkway is not a desolate road. Why would you build a 2X2 road for a destination nobody goes? So, dumping a body on a fairly trafficked road requires a lookout. Probable hint of a third individual.
- The blog post on Rashawn Brazell murder clearly refers to three individuals
- Police blotter on the day of Tirrel Santiago’s report refers to three individuals robbing and stabbing a man at subway station.
For more, you can read my previous posts. Maps and stuff.. All I have is there.
What I don’t believe is;
Everything SCPD tells.
The question is; “one killer” or “two killers”, or in other words: Are all victims murdered by the same individual/group?
Answer: Yes. It is one killer.
Since I think it’s a Band, each singular person “he” below referring to LISK should be interpreted as “they”.
Before we continue, let’s answer a question… Answers are “my” answers.
- Did he take any risks?
Answer: No
- But he called Sis Amanda?
Melissa’s family were being shooed by the police while they were trying to report her missing. So, there is really no solid risk taken. The girls’ files were put on shelves after a few weak attempts by the police. So, as always, when LE fails it must always be a genius, cunning, devilish killer.
He did not take any risks. He did not try to taunt the police or the media or the families. Especially after the discovery of the bodies, he kept a super low profile. For example, what I think is he [i.e. one of them (age 51)] is currently residing in Georgia. He definitely avoids risk.
What about the dolls? Who put them?
It can be;
1) LISK
2) A crazy man
3) A crazy woman
4) Phelps
5) Police
Answer
1) I’ll try to show below that it is not LISK.
2) Anybody got punished for obstruction of justice or impeding an investigation?
3) Same above
4) Really? Television got so low?
5) …. (that is silence)
HOW DO WE DEDUCT IT IS ONE KILLER?
To do that, we must look at the murders in chronological order.
Fire Island Doe – 1996 – Dismembered
Peaches Doe – 1997 – Dismembered
Jane Doe and John Doe - 1997 – Dismembered
Eve Eskin Brown - 1999 – Dismembered
Jane Doe 2000 - Dismembered
John Doe 2000 – INTACT!
Andre Jamal Isaac - 2002 - Dismembered
Jessica Taylor - 2003 - Dismembered
John Doe 2003 – INTACT!
Rashawn Brazell – Feb 2005 - Dismembered
Tirrel Santiago - Aug 2005 – Intact
Maureen Brainard Barnes - Intact
Thalia Stathis – 2007 - Intact
Tanya Rush – 2008 - Dismembered
Melissa Barthelemy – Intact
The Mom and the Baby - 2008/2009 - Dismembered
Megan Waterman – Intact
Amber Lynn Costello – Intact
LISK is one of a kind. He’s not doing the dismemberment for fun. That is for a purpose. He doesn’t want the victim to be identified. That means if we can identify the victim, we may have an idea who LISK is. Since the identified victims are all prostitutes, we can say he’s someone around prostitutes. Not a cop, not a john, not a pimp - all explained before- but someone prowling around hotels & motels for quick cash and rape.
Now, killing a person is one thing, dismembering a body is another thing. Not even all killers can do that. If you look at what LISK is doing, he removes hands and head, i.e. face and fingerprints. Try to find a similar killer, that consistently does that. You won’t find any.
If the identity of the victim is risky, LISK dismembers.
So, if we assume that he is not a risk taker and not doing the dismemberment for fun, we must be seeing a transformation. That means, whenever he feels safe, he will stop the dismemberments. Because, in addition to being a burden, dismemberment is also an extra risk. Time consumed, leaving evidence etc.
Do we see that evolution?
Yes.
1- John Doe 2000 and John Doe 2003 are not dismembered. Because identifying them (customers) doesn’t tell anything about LISK.
2- As can be seen with Jessica, Jane Doe 6 and Peaches Doe. He doesn’t really care whether or not the torsos are found. His priority is hands and head.
So, what is happening?
In 1996 Fire Island Lady, the first known victim in Long Island, is found. Clearly there is too much effort there (i.e. risk). Legs are cut, hands are cut, parts are probably stuffed in bags and dumped in different locations. Legs are found but the head isn’t. He put it on the side of Ocean Parkway. So, LISK has an experience now. “I put the head on the side of that road and it is not found.”
1997, Peaches Doe… Head and hands not found to date (Note here; there are some body parts found along the route. I don’t know if they are examined) So, to say the least, LISK probably he has at least one more place, that is not discovered. (Remember, we also don’t know where the rest of The Mom is)
Jane Doe and John Doe - 1997. Probably something went wrong there and they were caught off guard by the cleaning crew.
Eve Eskin Brown – 1999 – Some parts in Brooklyn in a construction site.
Jane Doe 2000 – Around the days JD6 was killed, there is a construction going on in the Brooklyn dump site. So, they go on a road trip, to Manorville. It is the human behavior that when you need to hide two objects (one big and one small) in two places (one big and one small), what you do is you put the big thing in the big box and small thing in the small box. That’s what he does. He dumps the torso in Manorville and the rest in Gilgo. Torso is found but the small bag isn’t. Gilgo scores again. Interesting thing is only one of her legs is removed, not both. It is not about a tattoo removal, because we know she has a tattoo which SCPD found and still to date keeps as a secret. Why one leg only? It is probably a “*advertiser censored* it” moment for LISK.
2002 Andre Jamal Isaac. Since he is a huge man, they probably leave the torso where they commit the murder. In Rockaway, dump the hands and head along the Sunrise Hwy. All parts are found. Sunrise Highway fails.
2003 – Jessica Taylor.. Big Thing in Big Box, Small Thing in Small Box. Gilgo scores one more time. How come? This small stretch of land is a great dumping spot?!! LISK gaining experience.
Feb 2005 Rashawn Brazell- Probably their sloppiest moment on the way and they were almost caught. Indeed, Georgia Guy sees the interior of an interview room. Lessons must be learned.
Aug 2005 – Tirrel Santiago
Now, what they want is “rape, rob and not get caught”. Killing is a measure not to get caught. Minimizing risk would be a complementary action. Since the small strip on Gilgo proved how functional it is, they stop dismembering and dump the body intact. Time is minimized, travel distance is minimized, risk of evidence contamination is minimized.
After that we start to see intact bodies. I have another probable explanation, but it also results in the same conclusion.
What is different is; Thalia Stathis (2007), Tanya Rush (2008) and The Mom (2008-2009).
Thalia Stathis. Reported to be found in a bag. Dismemberment is not indicated officially, still it is probable that she was dismembered.
Tanya Rush. Dismembered. All parts in the same suitcase. Probable that this is just functional (to fit a body in trolley case) not to hinder identification.
The Mom: Dismembered. Now, looking at the chronology, it doesn’t seem to make sense. She should have been left intact. But given the fact that he separated The Baby and The Mom, it can be surmised that LISK is not happy about the victim to be identified. Sasha and Selah Davis perhaps?.. So, dismemberment again comes in play.. Probably, he has a direct connection with the Mom, which is why he dismembers and separates the body parts.
