I'm wondering if this is indeed the case, tlcya...I am curious to know, still, if DE and/or NK missed their Thursday and Friday classes at Tech.
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I'm wondering if this is indeed the case, tlcya...I am curious to know, still, if DE and/or NK missed their Thursday and Friday classes at Tech.
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So is that a normal time frame? Two months (almost)? And because they are held without bond they'll just be sitting in jail until then, correct?
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Oh, those who want to be so grown-up. We all (or most of us) at that age, regardless of gender, wanted to be older -- to be able to drive, to "really" date, to "go steady" (that's the term we used way back then), to have a boy or girl ask us to a prom, etc., etc., etc.
Maybe DE was expecting that -- one look at her would tell him, as we saw in her pics, that she was probably 12 or 13 since she really did look so very young. When he saw her and spoke with her some, he would realize that she was nowhere near 18, in body, mind or experience. Did he get angry and lash out at her, thereby making her unconscious, or something close, and then panicked? I probably would -- this dead or dying child in my car -- WTH am I gonna do now? I'll get kicked out of school, my parents, etc., etc.
Could be. I hope we will find out the "what" and "why" parts of this murder (if it is) mystery.
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Here's a video -- nothing new, really -- from WRAL, Raleigh, NC, and below it an article from this morning's WRAL news:
http://www.wral.com/news/state/video/15302487/
Mom says slain Virginia teen endured health issues, bullying
Posted 32 minutes ago
Updated 30 minutes ago
Read more at http://www.wral.com/slain-virginia-teen-mourned-as-investigation-continues/15303377/#KiM8TgfeR8k1ZixJ.9
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regarding DE's charges:
§ 18.2-32
First and second degree murder defined; punishment.
Murder, other than capital murder, by poison, lying in wait, imprisonment, starving, or by any willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing, or in the commission of, or attempt to commit, arson, rape, forcible sodomy, inanimate or animate object sexual penetration, robbery, burglary or abduction, except as provided in § 18.2-31, is murder of the first degree, punishable as a Class 2 felony.
All murder other than capital murder and murder in the first degree is murder of the second degree and is punishable by confinement in a state correctional facility for not less than five nor more than forty years.
https://vacode.org/18.2-32/
Regarding NK's charges:
http://vtnews.vt.edu/documents/013116-vtnews-bpdrelease2.pdf
§ 18.2-323.02. Prohibition against concealment of dead body; penalty.
Any person who transports, secretes, conceals or alters a dead body, as defined in § 32.1-249, with malicious intent and to prevent detection of an unlawful act or to prevent the detection of the death or the manner or cause of death is guilty of a Class 6 felony.
http://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter7/section18.2-323.02/
§ 18.2-19
How accessories after the fact punished; certain exceptions.
In the case of every felony, every accessory after the fact shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor; provided, however, no person in the relation of husband or wife, parent or grandparent, child or grandchild, brother or sister, by consanguinity or affinity, or servant to the offender, who, after the commission of a felony, shall aid or assist a principal felon or accessory before the fact to avoid or escape from prosecution or punishment, shall be deemed an accessory after the fact.
https://vacode.org/18.2-19/
§ 18.2-32
First and second degree murder defined; punishment.
Murder, other than capital murder, by poison, lying in wait, imprisonment, starving, or by any willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing, or in the commission of, or attempt to commit, arson, rape, forcible sodomy, inanimate or animate object sexual penetration, robbery, burglary or abduction, except as provided in § 18.2-31, is murder of the first degree, punishable as a Class 2 felony.
All murder other than capital murder and murder in the first degree is murder of the second degree and is punishable by confinement in a state correctional facility for not less than five nor more than forty years.
https://vacode.org/18.2-32/
Regarding NK's charges:
http://vtnews.vt.edu/documents/013116-vtnews-bpdrelease2.pdf
§ 18.2-323.02. Prohibition against concealment of dead body; penalty.
Any person who transports, secretes, conceals or alters a dead body, as defined in § 32.1-249, with malicious intent and to prevent detection of an unlawful act or to prevent the detection of the death or the manner or cause of death is guilty of a Class 6 felony.
http://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter7/section18.2-323.02/
§ 18.2-19
How accessories after the fact punished; certain exceptions.
In the case of every felony, every accessory after the fact shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor; provided, however, no person in the relation of husband or wife, parent or grandparent, child or grandchild, brother or sister, by consanguinity or affinity, or servant to the offender, who, after the commission of a felony, shall aid or assist a principal felon or accessory before the fact to avoid or escape from prosecution or punishment, shall be deemed an accessory after the fact.
https://vacode.org/18.2-19/
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Re the bond issue:
"Both Eisenhauer and Keepers remain in jail without bond. Their next hearing date is March 28th at 1pm for a preliminary hearing in Juvenile & Domestic Relations Court. If they request a bond hearing, a date and time for that will be set. Neither has requested a hearing as of this time."
http://wsls.com/2016/02/01/murder-suspect-to-make-initial-court-appearance-today/
so, to me this is different than how I've ever seen court dates work, but I guess they need to request a bond hearing, which is why they're not out on bond atm, though who knows if it could/would be granted.
"Both Eisenhauer and Keepers remain in jail without bond. Their next hearing date is March 28th at 1pm for a preliminary hearing in Juvenile & Domestic Relations Court. If they request a bond hearing, a date and time for that will be set. Neither has requested a hearing as of this time."
http://wsls.com/2016/02/01/murder-suspect-to-make-initial-court-appearance-today/
so, to me this is different than how I've ever seen court dates work, but I guess they need to request a bond hearing, which is why they're not out on bond atm, though who knows if it could/would be granted.
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What amazed me was LE reported they had 300+ tips on this case. That is a lot of tips in four days. For Nichole to be found so fast, the alleged murderer arrested, and the accomplice arrested within a 24- hour period, some of those tips had to be valid.
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How long it takes to get back into court depends on a lot of issues, including how busy the court is, the severity of the case, and the complexity of the case. Court rooms can be booked well in advance in a busy jurisdiction, they have an idea of how long is appropriate to get initial discovery information, and they need to mitigate not completely wasting time with making sure they're in often enough to call it fair and speedy.
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Juvenile court? Is that misreporting? They are both above 18...
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Ty! Your previous post about the bond issue cleared it up for the most part. I too was a bit puzzled by how the bond issue was handled, like others have been wondering if there was a specific reason for them (or especially Keepers) to not be allowed bond. Guess it's just a 'technicality' so far and nothing has been denied/refused.
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Ive read in other articles that they're taking place in juvenile and family because the victim is a minor, despite the accused being adults.
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A previous tweet by a reporter stated that because Nicole was 13, the case is going to be heard in family court initially. I've never heard of that type of stratification for 1st degree murder, but I'm guessing it must be something state-specific?
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Yeah, it's weird, imho. The first hearing is often a bind/bail hearing in my experience, but I guess this goes to show you that things are different in different places.
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That's another thing that's puzzling me... family court? I'm assuming they know what they're doing, but in all these years that's the first I've personally come across that.
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That seems strange to me...I thought the court was chosen based upon the accused not the victim.
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I've never heard of it before either, but this isn't exactly my area of expertise... I'm sort of wondering at the moment if there isn't a different level of privacy in juvenile, family court, etc., maybe in terms of media or records including the victims' names.. Perhaps it's got something to do with privacy for the victim, or expertise and training within the court to understand and be sympathetic towards a minor. I dunno, I'm just thinking here.
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