Bosma Murder Trial 04.06.16 - Day 31

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Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Judge says jury is hearing evidence of other alleged crimes but they can't use that to find #Millard or #Smich guilty of murder

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 1m1 minute ago
Judge telling jury the alleged thefts they are hearing about are irrelevant in this case to the accused mens murder charges. @AM900CHML

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
He stresses they can't use this evidence to conclude/infer whether he committed this murder. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Back on. Judge telling jury evidence about alleged criminal activity (theft, drugs etc.) cannot be used for murder verdict.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 53s53 seconds ago
Fraser asks Hagerman about going to Wtloo airport after Bobcat theft. He says Dell, Mark, Andrew and Steve were all there as well. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 48s48 seconds ago
Hagerman doesn't remember who drove him to Woodbridge or the Waterloo hangar during the bobcat theft. #Bosma
 
Jury now back in. Goodman again cautions them about discreditable conduct that was deemed admissible, but that it can't be used as evidence to conclude or infer that Smich are guilty of first degree murder.
by Adam Carter 3:49 PM

Hagerman says he doesn't remember who drove him to Woodbridge, where the Bobcat theft took place.
by Adam Carter 3:50 PM

Hagerman says that after the "caper," he went to the hangar at the Waterloo airport. Millard, Smich, Michalski, Steve Kenney and himself were there.
by Adam Carter 3:51 PM

Fraser now asking about May 9, 2013. Says Hagerman spoke with police several times.
by Adam Carter 3:51 PM
 
molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
He says he can't remember how he got from Woodbridge to the hangar. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
After mission, Dellen, Mark, Andrew, Steve, Matt all went to hangar.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 1m1 minute ago
Crown now moving to the evening of May 9 2013. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 44s44 seconds ago
Fraser asking him now about the evening of May 9, 2013. "You spoke to police on a number of occasions," Fraser says to him. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 29s29 seconds ago
First two times were May 14 and 15 at Hagerman's home. His dad was present. Then again May 22, and finally on May 30. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 16s16 seconds ago
Hagerman spoke to police May 14, 15, 22 at his home. #Bosma
 
AM works in the construction trade. Wonder what this will do for his credibility on the job site. It sounds like a lot of this was just for the sake of taking something because they could.


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Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 12s12 seconds ago
Matt spoke to police May 14 & 15 at his home. His dad was there. May 22 talked to police again at house. May 30 talked to cops at lawyer's.

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 29s30 seconds ago
Hagarmen talked to police several times. May -14-15-22-30. That last meeting was w @calvinberry @AM900CHML #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 26s27 seconds ago
That final mtg was at a lawyer's office. Hagerman's father had retained the lawyer after he told him what happened. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 12s12 seconds ago
On the May 31 meeting Hagerman's dad retained a lawyer Calvin Barry because police were suspicious. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV now Mississauga, Ontario
Hagerman says he wasn't truthful when he spoke to police in mid-May 2013

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 12s12 seconds ago
Matt's father hired lawyer. Says police were "suspicious" of his involvement with #Bosma case. Says he was only truthful in final statement.
 
Claroon said:
That's so annoying. I am in the area too and had thefts at 3 diff times - a $200 metal lawn sign, & solar lights. I know a family kids always have diff vehicles, wondering if they bought them from Millard--golf cart, dirt bikes, snow mobiles, atv's, and sometimes they put them up for sale themselves. They have black trailer too.
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I wonder if any of the jurors live on rural properties and have had stuff stolen from them? ;)
 
JPC said:
AM works in the construction trade. Wonder what this will do for his credibility on the job site. It sounds like a lot of this was just for the sake of taking something because they could.


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Yep, this struck me too. The junk seemed to accumulate, although I guess we don't know how much of it DM 'flipped' versus the stuff he kept around for no discernable reason.

It must have galled the hell out of him to have to actually pay for the incinerator.
 
Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 8s8 seconds ago Mississauga, Ontario
That was his initial meeting with police #BosmaTrial

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7s7 seconds ago
Hagerman says police were suspicious of his involvement. He was not truthful in the first meetings, he says. That changed May 30. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 42s43 seconds ago
Hagerman was not entirely truthful with police until his final statement. #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 35s35 seconds ago
His dad paid for his lawyer and he then paid his dad back over the following six months. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 21s21 seconds ago Mississauga, Ontario
Crown now asking Hagerman about May 9, 2013 #BosmaTrial

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 20s20 seconds ago
They were suspicious of my involvement in a case w DM. He initially lied to police. Then lawyered up. Told all. @AM900CHML #TimBosma
 
His dad was present for some of these, and a lawyer (who his father had retained) was also present for an interview.
by Adam Carter 3:53 PM

"They were suspicious of my involvement in the case they were researching when they came to Dellen Millard," Hagerman says.
by Adam Carter 3:53 PM

Hagerman says in his first statements, he wasn't "entirely truthful" with police. That changed in his final statement.
by Adam Carter 3:53 PM

May 9 was a Thursday. Bosma vanished on May 6.
by Adam Carter 3:54 PM

The last time before that date that Hagerman had contact with Millard was three weeks before, he says.
by Adam Carter 3:55 PM

 
Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 39s39 seconds ago
Hagerman's dad paid the lawyer, Hagerman paid him back over 6 months. #TimBosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 47s47 seconds ago
Hagerman lied to police the first 3x's they questioned him. Finally at lawyers office he told truth. #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 38s38 seconds ago
May 9, 2013 was a Thursday. Fraser asks when the last time before that was that he'd had contact with DM - in person, call or text. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 37s37 seconds ago Mississauga, Ontario
Hagerman says he was out of town for three weeks previous to May 9, 2013

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 46s47 seconds ago
Hagerman says he'd been on vacation so it would've been probably 3 weeks since they'd communicated. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 42s43 seconds ago
Hired Calvin Barry. Matt paid his father back for legal fees...Hadn't had contact with Millard for at least a few weeks before May 9.
 
ArianeEmory said:
Yep, and he called them 'missions'. He really thought he was some black-ops gangster. It would be hilarious if there weren't three bodies behind him.
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and he wonders why they don't want him helping in the prison kitchen! :jail:
 
Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 59s59 seconds ago
Hagerman says the last contact he had with Millard was a week prior to May 9 2013. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 54s54 seconds ago Mississauga, Ontario
Crown: Were you aware of the missing persons case of Tim Bosma? H: I caught something on the news, in the bar (where he worked) #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 48s48 seconds ago
Hagerman says he'd caught something on the news in the bar about the #Bosma case, either the night of May 9 or a couple nights prior.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 28s28 seconds ago
He had recently heard of the #Bosma case in the news at the pub where he worked.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 26s26 seconds ago
He knew someone had put a truck up for sale on Kijiji and that that person was missing. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 43s43 seconds ago
Stopped talking to DM 3 weeks before #TimBosma went missing. Saw something in the news.@AM900CHML
 
Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 54s54 seconds ago
Hagerman heard of #Bosma case in news in bar he worked at. He knew there was a Kijiji ad, a stolen truck, a missing person.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 41s41 seconds ago
Hagerman's phone screen had broken. His dad dropped it off to him at the bar that night. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 29s29 seconds ago Mississauga, Ontario
Hagerman: I missed a series of calls, about four or five that night. His phone was in for repair #BosmaTrial

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 15s15 seconds ago
Hagerman missed 4 or 5 calls that night from Christina Noudga, Millard's girlfriend. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 13s13 seconds ago
Just before midnight he had 3 or 4 missed calls from Christina Noudga's phone. Millard's gf. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 19s19 seconds ago Mississauga, Ontario
The calls were from Christina Noudga, Millard's girlfriend #BosmaTrial
 
Hagerman was working that night at a pub in Etobicoke. Says he was aware of the Bosma investigation then because of the news.
by Adam Carter 3:55 PM

Hagerman says his phone was in the shop to be repaired, and his dad dropped it off to him at the bar.
by Adam Carter 3:56 PM

Just prior to midnight, he missed a four or five calls from Christina Noudga's phone -- Millard's girlfriend.
by Adam Carter 3:57 PM

He says he knew her in passing, they'd met a couple of times.
by Adam Carter 3:57 PM

Hagerman says he didn't directly speak to her that night.
by Adam Carter 3:57 PM
 
Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 17s17 seconds ago
Matt's phone had been repaired. Dad dropped it off. He'd missed calls from Christina Noudga, Dellen's girlfriend. Had met her a few times.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 11s11 seconds ago
Hagerman says he knew her in passing meeting her on a "few occasions" #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 32s32 seconds ago
He'd met Noudga a few times in passing, he says. He didn't talk to her that night. He missed the calls (sorry 4 or 5, he says). #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 31s31 seconds ago
May 9th. Gets and misses series of calls from christina nougda. Calls again may 10th. @AM900CHML @timbosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 26s26 seconds ago Mississauga, Ontario
I went to call back, there was just dead air. No answer #BosmaTrial

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 19s19 seconds ago
He went to call back but there was no answer. Picked up a call from her again and realized that his phone speaker was broken. Silent. #Bosma
 
SnooperDuper said:
A "grab" or a "get" is a drug purchase, IMO.
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Apr 6 2016 3:05 PMText from Millard: "Need a lookout on a walkie talkie tonight. 10pm-3am. $50 or credit towards future grabs. Interested?"

maybe credit for future thefts? things he steals for them?
 
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