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Karakatta cemetery must have been a lightning rod for creeps - my sister-in-law was telling me she was ‘flashed’ in there when she 14 (in the ’80’s).
Honestly..Perth in general seemed to be a hot spot for creeps back then.

Or maybe it was just the late 80s and 90s..had a few encounters with exhibitionists and flashers myself back then. I was only about 12!
I really dont get what these sickos achieve by this..but it worries me what they may have got up too since

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Id suggest he chose Claremont because he wanted to "punish" those from a wealthy, western suburbs area......i.e. "you may have all the money in the world and look down to me, but I am going to show you who has the power". I believe his origins are low socio-economic areas such as Huntingdale, Gosnells etc...Id suggest he probably had many nasty remarks about his wealth and origins, perhaps from young wealthy ladies and this is why Claremont was chosen. JMO
 
Or she could be a victim of Stockholm Syndrome

no, totallly disagree, have met on a number of occasions, plus she has had a couple of long term relationships - he was her dad, she loved him as a dad i have no doubt she is shellshocked by the revelation
 
Id suggest he chose Claremont because he wanted to "punish" those from a wealthy, western suburbs area......i.e. "you may have all the money in the world and look down to me, but I am going to show you who has the power". I believe his origins are low socio-economic areas such as Huntingdale, Gosnells etc...Id suggest he probably had many nasty remarks about his wealth and origins, perhaps from young wealthy ladies and this is why Claremont was chosen. JMO
I agree.
I think he always had the hate/resentment. .but once his ex wife maybe got more successful, independent and had more powerful friends etc..left him..he felt inadequate again..wanted to take control over someone. ..show them..
May have even been spying on said ex wife in the area to see what she was up too. Opportunity arose and he took his rage on her and the more well off out on an innocent woman walking home/waiting for taxi.

Doesnt seem he handles rejection well whatsoever.
Like most psychos

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no, totallly disagree, have met on a number of occasions, plus she has had a couple of long term relationships - he was her dad, she loved him as a dad i have no doubt she is shellshocked by the revelation
In a relationship now from what I can gather. He was her step father from 4 or so..far as she is concerned..hes been her father her whole life. I doubt there would be anything weird going on. Seems like a girl with her head on right,going places.
I feel awful for her

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i looked for photos of brad but could not find any of him from what i had but i talked to some old work mates and one of them has a bunch of photos and even home vcr of all of us including brad from 1997 he is waiting for his nephew to convert the vcr to dvd or some thing so he can put on the internet he said it should be done by the weekend i told him to join here and he said he will

one person asked what did brad do work wise. he was articulate and well communicated but quiet he did very very well at his job brad specialized in underground and coaxial cabling work he was one of just a handful in the state that was specialized in these areas and did a lot of contract work for mining companies in wa and nt he also did lots of work behind compliance devices like alarm systems for businesses all around wa like i said when it come to his job brad really stood out as some one who new what they were doing and did it very well all our bosses liked him
 
I also think there were more people involved at least in some of the cases, the selector, the catcher, the killer, the dumper. Some may have had multiple parts to play like a sick game of pass the parcel.

Im really at a loss to see how that could be the case. The more people involved, the more likely to be solved quickly. A person acting on their own doesnt have to swear anyone to secrecy
 
Id suggest he chose Claremont because he wanted to "punish" those from a wealthy, western suburbs area......i.e. "you may have all the money in the world and look down to me, but I am going to show you who has the power". I believe his origins are low socio-economic areas such as Huntingdale, Gosnells etc...Id suggest he probably had many nasty remarks about his wealth and origins, perhaps from young wealthy ladies and this is why Claremont was chosen. JMO

I believe he chose Claremont because there were plenty of ways to get out of the place. There also wasn't the Police presence that the City attracted. I also believe he didn't particularly care where his alleged victims came from as long as his perverted needs were met. He just managed (by dumb luck and some ordinary Policing) to stay on the loose for a long time.
 
Im really at a loss to see how that could be the case. The more people involved, the more likely to be solved quickly. A person acting on their own doesnt have to swear anyone to secrecy
Not to mention multiple DNA.
 
In a relationship now from what I can gather. He was her step father from 4 or so..far as she is concerned..hes been her father her whole life. I doubt there would be anything weird going on. Seems like a girl with her head on right,going places.
I feel awful for her

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I am not suggesting a sexual element or a violent element far from it Stockholm syndrome's main core is the dependency, and idealisation especially where it starts in early childhood. Stockholm or not it is an awful situation to be in.
 
Im really at a loss to see how that could be the case. The more people involved, the more likely to be solved quickly. A person acting on their own doesnt have to swear anyone to secrecy

You don't swear anyone to secrecy you compromise them.
 
Hi Sleuthers. I have read all 10 websleuth threads on this topic, and all related media articles since BRE was charged.
The one issue I have is the ongoing assumption that familial DNA was collected from an offending (male) relative or covertly through an RBT.

Familial DNA can be collected, with a warrant, from a female relative's pap smear i.e. mother, sister, etc.
Most women have pap smears every two years and tissue and blood is collected which obviously contains DNA.
You'd be surprised at the level of personal information the AFP has access to!
Collecting familial DNA and linking it to suspects is a relatively new technology, however.

Indeed, the BTK (Dennis Rader) serial killer was caught after police obtained a warrant to test DNA from his daughter's pap smear results. Prior to this, they had circumstantial evidence against him, but not enough for an arrest.
The Australian revealed the familial DNA technique was a key step (once all the other evidence was lined up) in identifying the CSK for police to make a confident arrest.
It's likely, as previously mentioned on here, that BRE was identified by the Huntingdale victim and on the police radar, but the familial DNA comparison then clinched the case.
All they they had to do then was get the DNA records from his mother or sister's next (or most recent) pap smear, raid his house, charge him and then finally test his DNA sample of course.

Just my informed opinion. I look forward to hearing more about the case if / when it goes to trial.

Under WA law blood is taken from all children born in WA, this is another possibility.
 
If as you say, he specialised in underground cabling work, would he be digging in dirt and using shovel etc or would that be done by others?

i looked for photos of brad but could not find any of him from what i had but i talked to some old work mates and one of them has a bunch of photos and even home vcr of all of us including brad from 1997 he is waiting for his nephew to convert the vcr to dvd or some thing so he can put on the internet he said it should be done by the weekend i told him to join here and he said he will

one person asked what did brad do work wise. he was articulate and well communicated but quiet he did very very well at his job brad specialized in underground and coaxial cabling work he was one of just a handful in the state that was specialized in these areas and did a lot of contract work for mining companies in wa and nt he also did lots of work behind compliance devices like alarm systems for businesses all around wa like i said when it come to his job brad really stood out as some one who new what they were doing and did it very well all our bosses liked him
 
Some of these fanciful non-evidence based theories being thrown out around here makes you think Francis Burt Chambers is getting people to attempt to create some sort of reasonable doubt for BRE in a public forum, while the DNA evidence (as it stands in our knowledge today) suggests otherwise.


I am all for theories but atleast have one shred of evidence to support them please.
 
Under WA law blood is taken from all children born in WA, this is another possibility.
Isnt that just for the newborn screening tests? To check for genetic issues and such?
They do that in NSW too.
Do they keep that all on file? I dont remember signing up for that 😂
Be a great idea though. People wont be able to get away with anything in future

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A recurring question on here seems to be 'Why Claremont?'.

Some thoughts on that. Aside from many of the other theories on here, I guess it's worth examining the night life areas in Perth in the mid to late 90;s;

1. Northbridge - The largest, central and most popular area. Nightclubs,pubs, restaurants, a few strip clubs. Would attract the largest numbers and probably the biggest melting pot.
2. Fremantle - Probably the second most popular area. Quite big and busy at weekends. Quite a mixed demographic again but probably mostly from the southern suburbs and coastal areas.
3. Subiaco. A smaller yet popular area. Reputation for being a little bit classier. A handful of pubs and clubs with restaurants.
4. Leederville. Once again a smaller area. Really popular midweek with the Hip-E Club and The Leederville Hotel being huge on Wednesdays. People from all over Perth would be there.
5. Claremont. A small yet popular nightspot. As Bart has already pointed out, predominantly people from the Western Suburbs with blow ins at Club Bay View from the unis.

So really, there are probably five main areas with a significant enough population for him to go out and select who he likes. I'd imagine that he'd remove Northbridge and possibly Fremantle because of the sheer numbers there. This would increase the chance of being sprung in the act. In Northbridge, whilst there are some secluded spots chances are that in most locations there are always people around. Fremantle is similar but probably to a lesser extent.

That leaves Subi, Leederville or Claremont.

This may potentially mean that his choice of 'hunting ground' comes down to a choice between three possible locations. It may have nothing to do with history or vendetta or some of the other theories and be a practical decision. Claremont is busy enough to offer the type of woman he is after but also becomes very leafy, suburban after a while and has plenty of spots where he isnt likely to be interrupted whilst attacking a victim.

Anyone else got any thoughts on this?
To put distance between him and his crimes.

That's why it was Claremont and possibly Cottesloe night scenes. No one would suspect a perp from Huntingdale at the time. Also the reason for the dump sites, putting even more distance between him and his crimes.

This perp is thinking spatially is regards to these selections, to put the most distance between him and his actions IMO.

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I've now had it on good authority that BRE's neighbours were contacted by WAPOL prior to his arrest to discuss certain incidents that occurred & were reported around his childhood home in Huntingdale - generally clothes going missing and peeping etc. It seems he was put forward as a suspect by multiple people for his odd behaviour.

Once police had that DNA hit from the Kimono, they had their man. As previously posted, it looks most likely he was arrested on suspicion of the 1988 attack only. I think the familial DNA link is a furphy.
 
You don't swear anyone to secrecy you compromise them.

And in involving someone else you invite the probability that someone will shop you to save themselves. Add a reward plus immunity from prosecution and you have a recipe for capture. This (alleged) offender was all by himself
 
i looked for photos of brad but could not find any of him from what i had but i talked to some old work mates and one of them has a bunch of photos and even home vcr of all of us including brad from 1997 he is waiting for his nephew to convert the vcr to dvd or some thing so he can put on the internet he said it should be done by the weekend i told him to join here and he said he will

one person asked what did brad do work wise. he was articulate and well communicated but quiet he did very very well at his job brad specialized in underground and coaxial cabling work he was one of just a handful in the state that was specialized in these areas and did a lot of contract work for mining companies in wa and nt he also did lots of work behind compliance devices like alarm systems for businesses all around wa like i said when it come to his job brad really stood out as some one who new what they were doing and did it very well all our bosses liked him

3blindmice..perhaps you cananswer an earlier question from this thread? You knew BRE back in 1997, did he happen to have a chipped front tooth, or a missing front tooth, back then, or at any time you knew him?
 
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