Identified! OH - West Chester, WhtFem UP13635, 35-60, in woods, dentures, Mar'15 - Darlene Norcross

Owutatangledweb · Jun 16, 2015

The things found in the purse are odd. In my view they are things one would have for camping in the woods. Swiss Army knife, scissors, lighter. Maybe a smoker and carried the others for protection?

ice190 · Jun 16, 2015

Dentals are available and will be entered later. That's going to be the deciding factor, UID had dentures.

Tulessa · Jun 16, 2015

A_News_Junkie said:
The coroner did say she had a full set of dentures. Eye glasses found near too - might or might not have belonged to her.

Do dentures come with a stamped serial? If not, they need to adopt that process.

carbuff · Jun 20, 2015

Owutatangledweb said:
The things found in the purse are odd. In my view they are things one would have for camping in the woods. Swiss Army knife, scissors, lighter. Maybe a smoker and carried the others for protection?

In the photos (http://www.wlwt.com/news/33355768, second frame) the items don't look that odd. It's just a cheap Bic-type lighter, a small knife like the one my mother carries, and the scissors look like they could be barber/beautician's scissors. I agree she's likely a smoker and I'd hazard that she might be a barber or beautician.

Cubby · Jun 20, 2015

Houston Mom said:
View attachment 75995I was looking at Melanie Callison missing Sept 2014, 63" , 138 lbs. Brown hair. Dentals available.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/28126/8?current_page=physical_characteristics

It looks like Melanie may have been found deceased. Her husband was arrested after dismembered remains were found and believed to be those belonging to Melanie. I agree it looked like a strong match.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/1821666-155/callison-police-edward-wife-according-melanie

Cubby · Jun 20, 2015

jbennett said:
I wonder if it could be Debra Lucas. I think the recon has many similarities. Missing since September 2010 from Louisville KY, which is only a 2 hr drive away. I wonder if she wore dentures. I couldn't find any info regarding this.

Here is the link to her WS thread:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...t-Debbie-quot-Lucas-48-Louisville-26-Sep-2010

This is a good possible. Here is Debra's Charley Project page: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lucas_debra.html

I think Debra's photo's at Charley Project resemble those of people who have had their teeth removed. I would not be surprised to learn she wears dentures.

I think this should be submitted.

carbuff · Jun 21, 2015

Debra's Namus page doesn't have any additional information, nor does the page on the Louisville KY site:
https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/show/8988
https://louisvilleky.gov/government/police/debra-lucas

Mentioned already that the distance from Louisville to West Chester isn't very far. Here's the map: https://goo.gl/maps/bZfSE

I agree, this should be submitted.

jjohnston0827 · Jun 25, 2015

There have been about a dozen inquires from individuals and police agencies hopeful to close open cases of missing persons. But so far, the woman remains Jane Doe.

http://www.journal-news.com/news/ne...iries-made-about-butler-county-jane-do/nmjsL/

JerseyGirl · Apr 18, 2016

“We have sent letters to 272 dental practices throughout the U.S. who may have used the unique dental implants that our lady has,” Mannix said. “So far, approximately 45 of those practices have responded and none were able to identify her. A couple of them had possible matches but were able to confirm that the patient was not missing.”

An intern with Murray at College of Mount St. Joseph is following up with the dental practices that have not responded yet, according to Mannix.

Last week the American Dental Association ran an article in its national newsletter asking for help with identification of the woman. The magazine “Dentistry Today” is also going to run the article, Mannix said.

The coroner’s office is also looking into additional testing of the bones.

http://www.journal-news.com/news/ne...y-missing-persons-cases-continue-to-ha/nq6LY/

MarchBaby · Mar 11, 2017

Hello, I just registered after finding Websleuths on Google when I did a search about this unidentified woman. Here is a new article from the Journal News. Still no answers as to who she could be.

carbuff · Mar 11, 2017

JerseyGirl said:
“We have sent letters to 272 dental practices throughout the U.S. who may have used the unique dental implants that our lady has,” Mannix said. “So far, approximately 45 of those practices have responded and none were able to identify her. A couple of them had possible matches but were able to confirm that the patient was not missing.”

An intern with Murray at College of Mount St. Joseph is following up with the dental practices that have not responded yet, according to Mannix.

Last week the American Dental Association ran an article in its national newsletter asking for help with identification of the woman. The magazine “Dentistry Today” is also going to run the article, Mannix said.

The coroner’s office is also looking into additional testing of the bones.

http://www.journal-news.com/news/ne...y-missing-persons-cases-continue-to-ha/nq6LY/

This is odd. The article says, "“Jane Doe’s” profile along with photos of her belongings, has been entered into NamUs, which is a national resource center for missing persons and unidentified decedent records. It is a free online system that can be searched by medical examiners, coroners, law enforcement officials and the general public. Additionally, testing through national data bases gave been done with no match."

But I can't find her in Namus. The only case from Butler County is a man found in July of 2011. The only UID from March of 2015 was a man found in Philadelphia.

I did find a more recent article from the Butler County coroner. It includes pictures of her clothing and her unusual dentures: http://www.missingpersonsofamerica....ty-coroner-asks-for-help-identifying-remains/

Another article, with information about how she was found and pictures of the location: http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...an-skull-mystery-west-chester-woods/80052714/

Owutatangledweb · Sep 25, 2017

I don't know if this lady was posted in the past so I thought I would post her link.
She seems to be similar to the reconstruction and the fact that she traveled Europe may explain the unusual dentures. She also wore glasses.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3491dfmd.html

carbuff · Sep 25, 2017

Okay, she is in Namus now. I don't know whether I missed her before, or if they had her profile set to LE only, or what.

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/13635

She now has DNA and dentals.

Exclusions
The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA

Devona Rothrock 1967 Indiana
Elizabeth Brussow 1963 Kentucky
Vicky Burross 1965 Tennessee
Regina L. DiCenso Unknown Ohio
Cerilla Doyle 1957 Arkansas
Holly Grim 1972 Pennsylvania
William Mayfield 1982 North Carolina
William Mayfield 1982 North Carolina
Kristi Richardson 1953 Wyoming
Iwuna Tipton 1941 Ohio
Kimberly Toboz 1976 Ohio
CHATHAM WILSON 1964 Ohio
Sharon Yoczik 1945 Ohio

Lava · May 4, 2018

I've emailed NamUs about a possible match. Jennifer Casper Ross had extensive dental work done. She went missing from Reno Nevada in 2005, had some pretty bad mental health issues going on and may have traveled. May explain the jaw atrophy as well.

Al Ka · May 9, 2018

CINCINNATI (WKRC) - Shes a mother with shoulder length brown hair, but her name, where she's from and how she died is a Butler County mystery.

Now, a group of forensic genealogists are hoping to crack the case, similar to how the suspected Golden State Killer was identified.

"Obviously we don't know who she is. She has a life history, a story. She has pregnancy scars children in her life, said Dr. Murray.

Other clues were scattered in the woods: Expensive shoes, an inexpensive blouse. Glasses and a fanny pack with chapstick and a lighter from a bull riding event.

A little unconventional is the DNA Doe Project. Its a nonprofit group of genealogists who help identify the unidentified dead. The cofounders are Colleen Fitzpatrick and Margaret Press.

They cracked the case of so called buckskin girl who was murdered and dumped on the side of the road in Miami County, Ohio in 1981. She was Marcia King of Arkansas.

Colleen Fitzpatrick has worked on high profile cases, she was on the team that identified the unknown child on the Titanic.

She has a family DNA sample in her freezer for Amelia Earhart's navigator if his remains are ever found.

Now, Fitzpatrick and a team of forensic genealogists will try to identify Butler County's Jane Doe.

http://local12.com/news/local/breakthrough-could-help-local-scientists-id-missing-woman

leilarose68 · May 9, 2018

Awesome that she is DDP's next case

Tssiemer · May 9, 2018

Not that Im not happy. And I am.

But I wonder why her. Why not like Shot gun Jane Doe or Walker County Jane Doe or Princess Doe.

Obviously I hope they all get tested with this technology eventually but I figured funding would be an issue in a case like this. Unless the state is paying for it. I dont know.

Im just shocked is all I guess.

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taramarie · May 9, 2018

Tssiemer said:
Not that Im not happy. And I am.

But I wonder why her. Why not like Shot gun Jane Doe or Walker County Jane Doe or Princess Doe.

Obviously I hope they all get tested with this technology eventually but I figured funding would be an issue in a case like this. Unless the state is paying for it. I dont know.

Im just shocked is all I guess.

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I think it's only a matter of time now. Many of our cases will be solved soon, I think. The more successes they have, the more departments that will try to duplicate. Patience

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folieadeuxnola · Jun 8, 2018

:Bumping: Butler County Jane Doe
5/19 - DDP takes on another Jane Doe case

leilarose68 · Jun 9, 2018

Tssiemer said:
Not that Im not happy. And I am.

But I wonder why her. Why not like Shot gun Jane Doe or Walker County Jane Doe or Princess Doe.

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Because Dr. Elizabeth Murray is the case manager for Butler County Jane Doe and was also the case manager for Buckskin Girl. Dr. Murray stepped up, took a chance on them, and gave them on of their very first cases so DDP promised her they would work on two of her other cases. I believe Dr. Murray is also trying to help DDP try to get grant funding for the future. And Butler County Jane Doe's agency is funding this so DDP did not need help from the public here.

If the agency is willing to fund a Doe case then the popularity of a case doesn't matter because it doesn't need to be publicly funded. And by 'agency' I mean law enforcement agency where the Jane or John Doe is found; the 'state' does not pay for this.

There are a whole bunch of factors that go into the cases DDP takes on: is there available DNA and is it good enough? Is the agency interested in working with DDP? Are they willing to fund the testing or is the Jane/John Doe well known enough to be a successful Doe Fund Me case?

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