Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #17

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Please continue GENERAL discussions here. Look around Nancy has her own forum, there are several threads started on specific topics to try and stay organized.


Links to previous and similar threads can be found toward the bottom of the page.


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Ahh so the Morwicks and the Fetterolfs live on Strathburgh. Hmm...
 
Star12 said:
Of course, I don't have the floorplan of the house, but it's possible that the door to the house would lead into a laundry area which would be on the right side, then. Which actually makes plenty of sense to me now. Thanks, Bubba
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According to the "building sketch" in the county tax records there is a 20 x 15 area behind the garage. The sketches don't show interior walls, but the photo the county has of the house shows a chimney on the right end of that area, so it's probably the family room.

Are we allowed to post direct links to government records on the WS site? If so I'll post a link to the picture and building sketch.
 
Caryresident

Thanks for the information. I would tend to agree there is probably some sort of camera monitoring the front desk/checkin area. So if I have this in my mind correctly - to get into the area of the club with all the ammenities, one has to produce a membership card at the desk before proceeding into the club proper. Got it, and again thanks.

So there is no way really Nancy could have entered the club without some record of it either tape or check in data - yes ?
 
Topsail Girl, Scott Heider and his now-ex, Heather Heider-Metour used to live at 231 Strathburgh Lane.
 
raisincharlie said:
Caryresident

Thanks for the information. I would tend to agree there is probably some sort of camera monitoring the front desk/checkin area. So if I have this in my mind correctly - to get into the area of the club with all the ammenities, one has to produce a membership card at the desk before proceeding into the club proper. Got it, and again thanks.

So there is no way really Nancy could have entered the club without some record of it either tape or check in data - yes ?
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The front desk people probably could have looked up her information if she didn't have her card.
 
Here's something else that is niggling at me.....we know that Nancy didn't go running with Carey now for a fact and that they had no plans to go running that morning. Soooo... if Nancy really went running with someone as brad wants us to believe, wouldn't that person was have come forward and said they were with Nancy by now? I know I would if it was me running with her and I knew I was the last person to see her alive - unless of course, I killed her.
 
Topsail Girl said:
Here's something else that is niggling at me.....we know that Nancy didn't go running with Carey now for a fact and that they had no plans to go running that morning. Soooo... if Nancy really went running with someone as brad wants us to believe, wouldn't that person was have come forward and said they were with Nancy by now? I know I would if it was me running with her and I knew I was the last person to see her alive - unless of course, I killed her.
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I think you can probably rule out someone else went running with Nancy, for this reason. In the 630 pm presser on 14 July, a media member asks Chief Bazemore if anyone had come forward to indicate Nancy was seen running on Saturday morning. Chief Bazemore confirms that as of that date and time no one had reported seeing Nancy in the areas she was known to run.

While this does not rule out she ran with someone - she supposedly left from her home, which was somewhat of a deviation from her normal routine to start with. If she met up with someone, no one saw it, and no one apparently saw her running with someone either, and Brad did not report her leaving in a vehicle with someone. Just a thought.
 
Topsail Girl (as in Topsail Beach?)

Heather Heider-Metour lives on Brannigan Place in Cary, in the Farren Forest subdivision. It is directly behind Farmington Woods Elem. School. I know lots of her neighbors, esp. the one across the street. I met Heather last Dec. Nothing special at all. Kinda horsey. Always looking for something to do. Not that she could have been enjoying her own kid, but nooooo. Ha ha. She's gotta have those affairs w/other married men. At work,even.

Nancy and Brad live in Lochside Glen in Lochmere. Those on Strathburgh Ln. live in Strathmoor or something like that. Yeah, I live in the Lochwood part of Lochmere. We're all on the same end of Lochmere,which is a huge huge subdivision. I get to see all the goings-ons.
 
raisincharlie said:
While this does not rule out she ran with someone - she supposedly left from her home, which was somewhat of a deviation from her normal routine to start with. If she met up with someone, no one saw it, and no one apparently saw her running with someone either, and Brad did not report her leaving in a vehicle with someone. Just a thought.
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This one could (theoritically) be explained by Theory (B) (on the Theories thread) - which involves NC departing for a secret meeting with someone else (who picked her up near her home). This theory is supported by the (unconfirmed) statement that the oldest saw NC leave to go running (though is not supported by a number of other things of course...)

Check on the Theories thread for details (and feel free to respond to the informal poll there with your thoughts on "most likely" theory, based on current knowns....)
 
jumpstreet said:
This one could (theoritically) be explained by Theory (B) (on the Theories thread) - which involves NC departing for a secret meeting with someone else (who picked her up near her home). This theory is supported by the (unconfirmed) statement that the oldest saw NC leave to go running (though is not supported by a number of other things of course...)

Check on the Theories thread for details (and feel free to respond to the informal poll there with your thoughts on "most likely" theory, based on current knowns....)
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Yes it could be explained by Theory B, no doubt. I'm not much of a theorist actually. But I do think you did a good job of it.
 
Topsail Girl, Heather Metour has lived at 110 Brannigan Pl. since 2-2-2007. Her ex, Scott Heider, now lives in Raleigh near Lake Johnston (or is it Johnson?). If someone is sueing her for "alienation of affection", and the other party wins, Heather may be moving on from that house! Her name is mud around here already.
 
Just a hmmmmm moment for me.....IF it's true Brad Cooper received all those bonus payouts, it's entirely possible Nancy had no knowlege of this money, as Brad was in total control of the family "budget".
 
ncnative said:
Topsail Girl, Heather Metour has lived at 110 Brannigan Pl. since 2-2-2007. Her ex, Scott Heider, now lives in Raleigh near Lake Johnston (or is it Johnson?). If someone is sueing her for "alienation of affection", and the other party wins, Heather may be moving on from that house! Her name is mud around here already.
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The searches were expanded in the later stages to include the Lake Johnston (Johnson) area as I recall. Mr Heider does live within the confines of that area and fairly close to the lake. The possibilities...
 
Christine said...

Not entirely true...there are some facts that we are baseing our speculation on.

I for one, don't know if he did it or not. Stats say he did. IMO, there is defenitley motive, means, and op. here for Brad to be the killer...BUT, that just based on what we know.

Yes, speculate, that's what we do on a discussion board. We can only discuss what we know and posters will base their opinions on that.

what are the facts? National Stats are not facts in this case. I still don't see any "just the facts" thread. I see links, and I see legal documents, and I see maps.
 
Snowshuze, in answer to your post that "...it's entirely possible Nancy had no knowledge of this money [bonus payoffs]...", with all the Cisco friends and gossip, she may have been aware. But lots of people do have "secret" accounts/funds. You'd have to be on your own planet not to ask to see the taxes, etc. for your own family though. He may not have shared that with her. I bet she was more savvy though. Don't know. Just guessing.
 
snowshuze said:
Just a hmmmmm moment for me.....IF it's true Brad Cooper received all those bonus payouts, it's entirely possible Nancy had no knowlege of this money, as Brad was in total control of the family "budget".
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Fortunately, I've never been involved in a divorce myself. However, I am quite certain that...

a. there is legal financial disclosure of earnings as part of a settlement. She/her attorney wouldn't be operating off what he "claimed" he earned. They'd see that large bonus, assuming it is true.

b. "equitable distribution" means not that she gets what she needs to start a new household, but that she get an equitable amount (read: half or more) of his earnings.

c. not as certain, but I believe it is true that IF the earning/alimony paying spouse's financial condition improves, then the other party can re-open the settlement and get paid more. This would further protect her should he for example get a bonus deferred until after the settlement.
 
Raisincharlie, as to Scott living by Lake Johnston, yes. Remember, he was married to Heather Metour. They are divorced. Even though Brad Cooper and Scott's wife at the time, Heather M. had an affair, Scott H. STILL is Brad's buddy and allowed Brad and the girls to stay at his (Scott's) home after Nancy's murder!! So, one could play detective and say that it's possible that Scott, being Brad's good buddy, even though Brad *$#@*'ed his ex-wife, Scott may have been a good buddy enough to help Brad out if he needed it regarding the murder, IF Brad did it...

Just another episode in Who Done It.
 
after reading posts that say that brad made $445,000, it made me wonder how much he was taxed on those earnings.

a friend worked for a year in vancouver and had to pay double taxes (US and Canandian).

did brad have to pay taxes for the same Cisco earnings to both the US and Canada?
 
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