It's the topic of this thread, IMO. I no longer believe or trust TM and I don't think it's necessary to dissect his words to find hidden meaning. I don't think he has any particular inside info to say that she won't be found. I personally doubt she will be found anytime soon and yeah, the family is not cooperating but this was the case from the get go. I see no reason for TM to continue to say she won't be found. She will or she won't. But unfortunately his words carry weight and he should be more responsible with them. He doesn't know for a fact she won't be found. And that's what he said. That's what he said, and I think it is wrong. That's my last comment on this subject because you're right, it's all been said before.
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It's the topic of this thread, IMO. I no longer believe or trust TM and I don't think it's necessary to dissect his words to find hidden meaning. I don't think he has any particular inside info to say that she won't be found. I personally doubt she will be found anytime soon and yeah, the family is not cooperating but this was the case from the get go. I see no reason for TM to continue to say she won't be found. She will or she won't. But unfortunately his words carry weight and he should be more responsible with them. He doesn't know for a fact she won't be found. And that's what he said. That's what he said, and I think it is wrong. That's my last comment on this subject because you're right, it's all been said before.
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Because of this post I became interested in how TM daughter's body was discovered after 1 1/2 years and who it was that eventually found her and if they ever found her murderer. The more I found on her case the more I felt I opened a can of worms and I should have just left well enough alone. I can never look at TM as the hero I once knew and I will never donate any money to TES again. Im putting my trust in LP. Please find Caylee, LP!
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Nedthan Johns
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I agree. The area we are dealing with is vast. People have spent their own money and resources searching for Caylee. IMO the only people that could have put any pressure on Casey to admit to what she did with her daughter's body are the Anthony's. And since day one when Casey was arrested we can see just how dysfunctional this family is and how they have placate Casey. Casey has NEVER been pressured by her family to devuldge Caylee's whereabouts because they are all still in denial. The reason Caylee hasn't been found IMO lies on the Anthony family and the Anthony family alone. Tim has done a wonderful job and given up hundreds of hours searching just like many of the public and all for this family who do nothing but leave a bad taste in our mouths. Casey is obviously satisfied with where she hid Caylee and the Anthony's are obvioulsy satisfied without knowing the truth. Prosecutors still have to go forward and present their case without the body. I still think there is more than enough evidence to find Casey 100% guilty of this crime.
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It would be best at this point to put the time, money and resources in prosecuting Casey instead of continuing the search for Casey. I am wondering if investigators were able to pull prints on the makeshift cross they found on the tree by the pond they were searching at after they confirmed the beading or jewels on it came from the Anthony home. At best she might be found accidentally or wash up in a pond or bog one day. The best justice for Caylee right now lays in a court of law. It's very sad she wasn't found, but Caylee isn't with her body any longer. The Anthony's will never get the closure they seek, but I think the public will once Casey is tried and convicted.
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All the areas LE wanted searched have not been searched yet, so how does he know that? Did NJ tell him something the Anthonys have said?
If not, then he is just trying to save face? But even that I don't understand because there are hundreds of others he has not found either. You can't find them all. Something is just not right here. Like I said in November, the entire search last time was strange and not very well planned or executed.
DollyPardonMe
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And it was just a clump of Lori Hacking's hair that they found. Surely, they could find something of little Caylee's!
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I think you are right. The good news is if she is in a bog somewhere those bodies hold for years and years preserved. There is always a chance unless he knows something we don't know about how she was disposed of.
I don't think it was in a landfill. I still believe she was buried in a shallow grave somewhere. We just have to find that "somewhere." We are going back in January, and try again. We have some new maps and new ideas. It will be after the trial starts, because of other scheduling, but you never know what will be found.
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Agreed Turbo!
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I too think they are looking in the wrong places ie by going by the phone pings.
My theories;
1. She put her in water or landfill (most likely) or God forbid burned her with the gas (in that event she will never be found)
3. RECHECK the back yard (unlikely but worth a try)
(I do NOT think she dug a hole and buried her elsewhere..too lazy)
My theories;
1. She put her in water or landfill (most likely) or God forbid burned her with the gas (in that event she will never be found)
3. RECHECK the back yard (unlikely but worth a try)
(I do NOT think she dug a hole and buried her elsewhere..too lazy)
I think Tim's statements about Caylee is unfindable are somewhat directed toward Leonard Padilla. Leonard is has vowed to continue his search for Caylee. Leonard really wants to find her.
I think, unfortunately, that the search for Caylee has become a power struggle.
I think, unfortunately, that the search for Caylee has become a power struggle.
Nedthan Johns
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I disagree, just because he didn't find Caylee, doesn't mean he and his organization did not try. We need to stop blaming those that are trying to help like CA does and start looking back to the person who has all the answers.
Searching any further at this point is a waste of time and resources unless another viable lead comes up. In the Westerfield case, searchers faced the same dilema and litterally had hundreds of miles to search off the road. Danielle was so badly decomposed searcher had thought she had been burned. There wasn't much left. Caylee being so small, if left exposed to the environment, sadly anything recognizable wouldn't be left. The best chance now is if bones wash up if Casey truly disposed of her in water.
My theory is that since we now know that Casey planned this out for some time, and went to the trouble of borrowing a shovel, then Caylee is most likely buried somewhere, which makes her even harder to locate.
What we all should be thankful for now is that Casey will never get the opportunity to hurt another child. Never get to go to nightclubs and carry on like nothing happend and be able to liver her lies any longer. There is no way this woman is getting out of jail IMO.
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It's so sad to think that some people just disappear and never show up again. years ago, my grandmother's caregiver told me about how her sister disappeared at age 15. Someone saw a man force her into a car, and she was never seen again. This woman was 50 some years old when she told me the story of her sister. So it had been 35 years since the kidnapping. And she was still so sad...said not knowing was something you could never get over.
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It also could be that pieces of her have already been found. That is another reason we are waiting until after the trial starts to go back to Orlando in case that has happened. Then we could be of a lot of assistance searching the area where those were found.
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I think there is a lot of truth in the statement that she may not be findable.
It would take a miracle at this point, and they have happened in other cases. I say we should never give up hope. The reality is that if found the body would not be in much of a condition to show cause of death.
It would take a miracle at this point, and they have happened in other cases. I say we should never give up hope. The reality is that if found the body would not be in much of a condition to show cause of death.
AMEN!
Someone needs to go to her and get it out of her, one way or another!
If she were my daughter, she would talk! Thank the Good Lord, she isn't mine!
I can't believe she can sit in there and know that her flesh and blood is lying outside somewhere in the elements! And that's just a-ok.:furious:
What a sick little *%#@!!*& she is!!!
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I think the difference is that they had an idea that Natalee's body was in a cage (contained) and stationary. They had an idea what area she was in. In Caylee's case, I think they believe her body was left in the open, was already decomposed to begin with and is now scattered to the winds. Forgive the graphic description, but I think Tim's right, unfortunately.
I think the difference is that they had an idea that Natalee's body was in a cage (contained) and stationary. They had an idea what area she was in. In Caylee's case, I think they believe her body was left in the open, was already decomposed to begin with and is now scattered to the winds. Forgive the graphic description, but I think Tim's right, unfortunately.