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In response to tarabull's post at the end of page 2:
I guess we can only do (as parents) what we think is best for our children...as well as ourselves.
I wonder how many of the parents whose children have died from Swine Flu wish they'd been able to have the vaccine? Those are statistics I'd like to see.
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Here is one Doctor's thoughts on the H1N1 (Swine Flu) shots.
Certainly makes one wonder what to do.
DR. RUSSELL BLAYLOCK ON SWINE FLU
This is an email sent to a friend of Dr. Blaylock and is now being
forwarded to anyone interested. Please pass it along. Also note the
attached biography of Dr. Blaylock. Dr. Blaylock is a board
certified neurosurgeon, author and lecturer. He attended the LSU
School of Medicine in New Orleans and completed his general surgical
internship and neurosurgical residency at the Medical University of
South Carolina in Charleston, SC.
No one should take this vaccine (Swine Flu vaccine)—it is one of the
most dangerous vaccines ever devised. It contains an immune adjuvant
called squalene (MF-59) which has been shown to cause severe
autoimmune disorders such as MS, rheumatoid arthritis and Lupus.
The newsletter for August covers this and it may not be out yet.
This is the vaccine adjuvant that is strongly linked to the Gulf War
syndrome, which killed over 10,000 soldiers and caused a 200%
increase in the fatal disease ALS (Lou Gehreg disease). This virus
H1N1 kills by causing a “cytokine storm”, which means that it causes
the body’s immune system to overreact and that is why it is killing
young people and is a mild disease in the elderly. (The elderly have
weakened immune systems.) This vaccine is a very powerful immune
stimulator and carries the real possibility of making the lethality
of the virus much greater.
One’s best protection is vitamin D3.. One should take 5000 IU a day now
and when the disease begins to spread increase the dose to 15,000 IU a day.
Vitamin D3 modulates the immune reaction, reducing the chance of an
overreaction and stimulates the body to produce what are called
antimicrobial peptides, which are powerful killers of viruses that
does not involve immunity. This is dose related, which means the
higher the dose of vitamin D3 the better the protection. Fish oils
(the best is Carlson’s Norwegian lemon flavored fish oil) also
reduce immune overreaction. One teaspoon a day should be sufficient.
For severe symptoms, one teaspoon twice a day. Antioxidants of
various kinds also help—this includes, quercetin, curcumin,
grape seed extract, vitamin C and natural vitamin E.
A good multivitamin/mineral such as Extend Core ( www.vrp.com) is also essential.
Feel free to spread this around. People need to know how to protect themselves.
Additonal Information from Dr. Blaylock:
Docs website:
http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/
Dr. Russell Blaylock: Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu:
http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com...han-swine-flu/
Dr. Russell Blaylock on 1976 Swine Flu and Outbreak Today
http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com...rent-outbreak/ |
According to THIS doctor (a senior physician in the infectious disease division of Boston's Children's Hospital), the H1N1 vaccine that is being given in the US DOES NOT CONTAIN SQUALENE, and not all doses contain thimerisol. (I have no idea, since it's not stated in your post if the doctor you cite is speaking of the US H1N1 vaccine, or those being given in Canada or Europe.)
http://childrenshospitalblog.org/thi...flu-questions/
I hate "emails" like the one posted above that do nothing except incite fear in people and serve to spread mass-hysteria. If you're going to take the time to read the above post, at least take the time to do a little research yourself to find out just how valid it is, and then make your own informed decision.
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I have had two people that I work very closely come down with the flu - the first right after she got the flu shot, and the second right after she got the swine flu shot. I took the regular flu shot, and have now been offered the swine shot (thru work)...I don't know if I want to take it. I am scared/in denial. I'm like....nahhhh...don't really believe all the hulabaloo. I am 51 - not really in the target age for the swine flu. Just don't know what to do here.
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I have had two people that I work very closely come down with the flu - the first right after she got the flu shot, and the second right after she got the swine flu shot. I took the regular flu shot, and have now been offered the swine shot (thru work)...I don't know if I want to take it. I am scared/in denial. I'm like....nahhhh...don't really believe all the hulabaloo. I am 51 - not really in the target age for the swine flu. Just don't know what to do here.
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I'm wondering if your co-worker who got sick after receiving a flu shot may be allergic to eggs.
She may be allergic, and not even aware of it. (Not as strange as it sounds, as I'm allergic to eggs, but still eat an omelet now and then. My egg allergy effects my central nervous system. The reactions I get after eating eggs is a feeling of lethargy, a headache afterwards, and very cranky- but I've known of this allergy since childhood testing, and do my best to refrain from eating eggs. Except for those cheese and mushroom omelets about 3 times a year. Yumm).
But even though I can occasionally EAT egg, I cannot have it injected into me, lol!
If this co-worker is allergic to egg (the flu vacine is grown in an egg-based culture), keep in mind her body is reacting to her allergy, not the flu vaccine itself.
Who knows? She may have even already been exposed to the flu virus a day or two prior to getting the shot, and not known it, and would have gotten sick anyway.
Keep in mind any reaction she has, doesn't mean you will have the same one.
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My 24 year old daughter called me from Wyoming a little while ago and she just spent the night in the hospital.
They told her she has H1N1, two ear infections, and bronchitis they are worried may turn in to pneumonia. Her dad took her to the hospital yesterday when her temperature reached 103 degrees. She said it came on very suddenly. One minute she was feeling fine, and the next she was dizzy and nauseous, and needed to lay down.
They gave her Tamiflu, which makes me feel somewhat better. She said she is lying on the couch, sleeping on and off, and her temperature right now is 100.2.
She is feeling miserable, and I am feeling helpless and sick with worry. Wyoming seems a long way from California right now! I want to be there to 'baby' my baby!
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My 24 year old daughter called me from Wyoming a little while ago and she just spent the night in the hospital.
They told her she has H1N1, two ear infections, and bronchitis they are worried may turn in to pneumonia. Her dad took her to the hospital yesterday when her temperature reached 103 degrees. She said it came on very suddenly. One minute she was feeling fine, and the next she was dizzy and nauseous, and needed to lay down.
They gave her Tamiflu, which makes me feel somewhat better. She said she is lying on the couch, sleeping on and off, and her temperature right now is 100.2.
She is feeling miserable, and I am feeling helpless and sick with worry. Wyoming seems a long way from California right now! I want to be there to 'baby' my baby!
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REALLY sorry to read this SB....I hope you can find comfort in knowing she's been diagnoised and treated and she should start to recooperate. I hope she's back to feeling herself just as quickly as it came on. I can only imagine what you're going thru, all those miles inbetween & not being able to baby your baby. Sending you & your family thoughts & prayers.
keep us posted ok....
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I said no.
I just want a regular flu vaccine.
I have a question if I may.
Is there a regular flu vaccine or is it just the H1N1 vaccine you can get?
TIA
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Cat Comes Down With H1N1
The first known case of the H1N1 flu virus in a cat has been confirmed
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Money a possible source of the virus!!
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...55966-sun.html
[snipped...] The virus can survive better on hard surfaces, like coins, than it can on paper money, but both are capable of passing it on.
The Public Health Agency of Canada reports H1N1 can survive up to 48 hours on hard surfaces, like coins, and eight to 12 hours on soft surfaces including money.
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I said no.
I just want a regular flu vaccine.
I have a question if I may.
Is there a regular flu vaccine or is it just the H1N1 vaccine you can get?
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There are 2 separate vaccines, seasonal and H1N1.
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Update for Tarabull, and all my concerned, fellow WS's:
I have been speaking to my daughter several times a day, for just a few minutes each time, while she has been down with the H1N1 flu.
I hope yesterday was the worst day for her. She was actually sobbing each time I spoke with her- I have never heard her sound so miserable. She was in excruciating pain from the body aches, but mostly from the sinus infection. She kept crying that she thought she was dying. She is not one to over-react, even when she was little.
My ex took her back to the hospital, where the doctor in the emergency room gave her a prescription specifically for the sinusitis (sp?), and something more to bring down her temperature, which had again risen sharply.
I am happy to report, that while she is still sick and feeling lousy, still feverish and achy, she is doing much better! It was obvious to me just hearing her voice, the improvement since yesterday. (She was actually a little bit embarrassed for "acting like a baby" - her words, not mine. I so was worried).
Hopefully the worst is over (like I promised her on the phone yesterday)!
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Hope DD is feeling better,SB!
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Originally Posted by oh_gal
In response to tarabull's post at the end of page 2:
I guess we can only do (as parents) what we think is best for our children...as well as ourselves.
I wonder how many of the parents whose children have died from Swine Flu wish they'd been able to have the vaccine? Those are statistics I'd like to see.
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I think I'm immune after caring for 3 flu infected kids
I'm thinking of selling shirts "I survived the Swine" --(ha ha) JK
My DD has severe Asthma and the vaccine was not available in our area (that I was aware of) until Oct. 26. On Oct 25 I stayed up until 2am researching the safety and was still unsure ever though I knew the risk and was told repeatedly that she needed to be first in line. Well God works in mysterious ways. We woke up the day of the clinic and she had very low grade fever-I kept her home as a precaution (because of her fever I was advised to wait to take her to the next clinic 2 days later. By 10pm she had a fever of 101 and wheezing. I called my Mom the nurse and she said just take her to the hospital if you feel uneasy (she said everyone else is going there). Mom went with me and by 10:45 DD was gasping for air surrounded by 7 ER workers (dr,nurses, and others I didnt know) They were asking me If she had ever been intubated (ventillator --I think but please correct me ) and that they were preping for addmission. Fortunately I was in "Momma Lion" mode and didnt notice My mom the nurse weeping in the corner. After DD was stabilized and settled in a room , my mom confessed that we were close to losing her because she was in respiratory distress. Later the Dr. confirmed we are the case that everyone fears and the she could have been a statistic if we hadn't gotten to the E.R. The Dr. said she was a "classic" swine flu (whatever that means) it hits very quickly. She only spent a day and a half in hospital (Tamiflu works wonders) My very long point was that the hopital said its not deadly unless you have other health complications----they werent worried about the flu they were concerned about the life threatening Asthma attack (brought on by Swine Flu) in fact they released her with a fever. Needless to say I have been at home in isolation for the last 2wks as all 3 kids cycled through the flu (of course they couldnt get sick together) The funny thing was the nurse who said ---Well at least now you dont have to worry about getting your kids the vaccine-do u know anyone else who wants to get it (H1N1) over with? They can come visit .
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I've decided the risk of Gullian-Barre is worth it. Those studies were done in the '70's. A lot has changed since then. Both my daughter and I are high-risk, although she isn't in the typical categories. When I took her to her pediatrician for what turned out to only be a cold and not an ear infection, they ended up letting me make an appointment for her for next week. She is low on one Immunoglobin and gets sick at the drop of a hat. I have Asthma and have a call into my GP to get an Rx for the vaccine. I've had the regular flu- wouldn't wish it on my worst enemies, and a 7-year-old not far from here died of H1N1 in 24 hours! 
In My Opinion, people who don't get immunizations are playing Russian Roulette...
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Btw: Can someone explain to me why the swine flu is called 'swine' flu and not 'pig' flu?
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I've decided the risk of Gullian-Barre is worth it. Those studies were done in the '70's. A lot has changed since then. Both my daughter and I are high-risk, although she isn't in the typical categories. When I took her to her pediatrician for what turned out to only be a cold and not an ear infection, they ended up letting me make an appointment for her for next week. She is low on one Immunoglobin and gets sick at the drop of a hat. I have Asthma and have a call into my GP to get an Rx for the vaccine. I've had the regular flu- wouldn't wish it on my worst enemies, and a 7-year-old not far from here died of H1N1 in 24 hours!
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Update: Got my H1N1 vaccine yesterday and feeling fine! My arm was actually less sore from this shot than from the regular seasonal flu shot!
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No, I don't trust the vaccine and its side effects.
i should get it because i dont want to put my 3 y/o and 5 month old at risk... but i'm taking other precautions.. such as not leaving my house lol
my 11 y/o already had it... and stayed in the hospital so he wouldn't affect the little ones.
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No, I don't trust the vaccine and its side effects.
i should get it because i dont want to put my 3 y/o and 5 month old at risk... but i'm taking other precautions.. such as not leaving my house lol
my 11 y/o already had it... and stayed in the hospital so he wouldn't affect the little ones.
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No side effects here! I got mine 2 days ago and my 8 year old got hers yesterday.
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We're taking the kids for their booster H1N1 shots on 12/5. We've had no ill effects since getting the vaccination on 10/31. After reading about the deaths and WS family members who are critically ill with H1N1 and complications, I'm glad we got the vaccination.
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I've been trying to get it but no luck. We haven't been able to get it on post and the community we live in now has some doses but are reserving them to give to high risk patients.
I was able to get an appt for my one son, he has asthma and they will give it to him.
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I wish my nephew would've gotten the shot, maybe he wouldn't be fighting for his life, on a ventilator from complications from the swine flu. (I've have a 'prayers needed for nephew' thread) with all the things that has been going wrong since he was admitted to the hospital early Sunday morning.
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Does anyone know of persons who are older than the age limit who have had Swine Flu?
Just curious.
I hope all of you (and families, etc) do well this flu season, and those who have it get well quickly.
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