CO-Roger Ellison 1981 VANISHED FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND POSSIBLE MATCH - Page 11

kirsty · #**251** 11-07-2009, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptAmerica

. This could resolve existing rumors by some of the locals that Roger's body was placed in the far reaches of an underground tunnel that go's underneath the gym.

Well, this is interesting ....

kitbits · #**252** 11-07-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wfgodot

The "JPash" interlude is indeed fascinating---well-written, and to the point. I began my teaching career at exactly the time that poster speaks of, and I can well-appreciate the problems faced by teachers who sought to make a difference. But here's my question: is it WS protocol, because a poster, any poster, claims to have special information about the case, to then automatically accept that poster as being what he or she claims to be?

The poet William Butler Yeats, in another context, of course, wrote: "O body swayed to music, O brightening glance, / How can we know the dancer from the dance?" How can we, the WS faithful, know the poster from the post---EXCEPT that we question the validity of each part of that dichotomy?

And a tip o' the Kangol to Kevmob77's deconstruction of the "JPash" material. I can well-see all sides of this whole issue.

Spot on!

kitbits · #**253** 11-07-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by wfgodot

Zaha, you're not alone in your first assumption. I wondered that immediately after coming upon this case. In 1981, that would have been a hugely controversial issue to have to face.

aye, and as one who spent most of her life in Colorado (graduated from HS in 79, as a matter of fact), i can tell you that it's a pretty conservative state, as a whole. Denver is quite liberal and does support gay rights, but the rest of the state was & still is quite right wing.

kitbits · #**254** 11-07-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Zaha

http://www.classmates.com/directory/...chool?org=6630

Maybe someone from here remembers something?

I live in Canada, so I can't join ... I tried to make an account but it wont work.. I am sure there must be a messaging system at this site, and someone can email the people that were at the school in 1981. There might even be a forum in there!

I'm a member, but if I post there, I'll not be anonymous, which doesn't sit well with me; I hope you understand! However, I had a look at the Class of 81 message board and under the heading, 'Have you heard from...?' a woman posted 'ROGER ELLISON'. That's it, nothing else. Also, she posted it this week on 3rd Nov., so Capt. America is right on: WS seems to have started the ball rolling again.

Since I have an account, though, I'm happy to do searches there for anyone/any topic, so don't be coy & feel free to ask!

CaptAmerica · #**255** 11-07-2009, 03:01 PM

Your offer is most welcome. People have researched information elsewhere on the internet like you, and have reported the info back here, which has been invaluable! Each bit of new information is useful in tracing the info back to Roger's disappearance. In short, we want to reconstruct the events leading up to and including the day of Roger's disappearance. It is just that simple.
There is believed to be a core group of kids back in Roger's day, who attended Cedar Ridge High School, and who are alleged to have frequented Pash's home, who may know the secret behind Roger's disappearance. One has come forward, we are hoping that others will also and make a statement.
If I could talk to them , this is what I would say: For those who may still live in fear of telling what they know, there are Champions out here, who will stand with you while you tell your story. Now that you have grown up, and may have children of your own, imagine if one of them did not come home after going to school, and you knew that his or her classmates might be harboring vital information about your child's whereabouts. What would you want them to do? Keep the secret and have you and your family suffer endless torment for 28 years with no end in sight, or step up, and provide some information. Just ask someone who lives this nightmare daily, and they will tell you of an unspeakable heartache. This website is not reality TV; it is a place to collaborate on information and ideas that will advance the information about the disappearance of Roger Ellison.
Two key elements will solve this missing person's case. The change in people's relationship with the perpetrator, if there is one, and the advancement of forensic science. Both are in our favor. Time is also one of the biggest allies in all unsolved crimes, especially those involving missing persons and cold case homicides. Just recently, a cold case homicide of 55 years was solved in Boulder, Colorado, because of people like the subscribers of WS, who took it upon them to stick with it until the answer was found.

Zaha · #**256** 11-07-2009, 09:14 PM

So can someone tell me, what exactly is being said by mysterious bloggers? I have only read one and that is the one that talks about Pash preying on kids with low self esteem.

Danaya · #**257** 11-07-2009, 09:47 PM

You can go and read the comments on the blog...

Zaha · #**258** 11-07-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Danaya

You can go and read the comments on the blog...

Are you talkign about the helpfindroger.com one? That is the only one I have seen... have you seen others?

Danaya · #**259** 11-07-2009, 09:51 PM

Nope, that's it. Takin quite a liking to this case, huh Zaha?

Zaha · #**260** 11-07-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Danaya

Nope, that's it. Takin quite a liking to this case, huh Zaha?

LOL.. Yeah, I can't get it out of my head

Danaya · #**261** 11-07-2009, 11:00 PM

Hopefuly there is a bit of a break in the case.

kirsty · #**262** 11-08-2009, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Zaha

LOL.. Yeah, I can't get it out of my head

Funny you say this, so do I! even on the other side of the world!

I go on this site almost daily and I always check up on this topic, I find it so sad that Roger's parents died not knowing what happened to there son

kirsty · #**263** 11-08-2009, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Danaya

Hopefuly there is a bit of a break in the case.

I agree! its been too long

Boyz_Mum · #**264** 11-08-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Zaha

LOL.. Yeah, I can't get it out of my head

Zaha, I can't get Roger's case out of my head either. Like you, I first looked at Roger as a possible candidate for being BK.

I just keep looking and praying for resolve in the case. Like CaptAmerica, I pray that someone comes forward with the information that helps solve this case.

wfgodot · #**265** 11-08-2009, 10:52 AM

The more interest we have here, and the more people commenting, the more interesting this case gets, and it was fascinating in the first place. Thanks, all, for the participation. CaptAmerica, don't be a stranger. Your input sparked great interest.

kirsty · #**266** 11-14-2009, 03:05 AM

*bump* for any news, or anything really

wfgodot · #**267** 11-16-2009, 02:42 PM

15 November update at Find Roger Ellison highlights two recent comments posted on the site: http://findrogerellison.wordpress.com/

Fairy1 · #**268** 11-16-2009, 09:35 PM

Hi ya'll. Haven't been here for a while as I don't care much for being scolded and belittled for my contributions to these cases. I would like to mention that the poster who has come here to defend himself was not defined as a POI on this board, but long before Roger's case was begun here. Just a little FYI.

I got to thinking today about a teacher my younger brother had in high school. I believe he was a history teacher and also coached the boy's varsity baseball team - though a less athletic person would be difficult to find. Anyhoo, he often had his MALE students over to his home to "study." It always bothered me and I never thought it was appropriate. I kept a pretty close eye on my little brother back in the day and he knew I didn't care for this guy. None of our boys ever went missing, but years later, I saw this same teacher on Dateline or 60 Minutes or some such show. He had been arrested as a child predator! He had long since left our school district, but that was actually the basis of the report. He just moved from one city/state to another as soon as things got heated or someone was questioning his behavior. None of the districts in which he taught ever did anything about it, they just allowed him to move on and on and on. Lord knows how many kids he hurt along the way.

Sadly, my big brother was introduced to pot by his trigonometry/theater teacher. Ironically, these things occurred in the same period during which Roger went missing.

My point is, it's not outside the realm of reality for teachers to be a bad or dangerous influence on their students. Particularly in the early 1980's, when parents weren't really as vigilant as they are now.

No amount of pontificating will change the known facts of this case, as few as they may be. Either one of the scenarios I'm relating here about my brothers could have created more than one horrible outcome. KWIM?

Danaya · #**269** 11-16-2009, 11:27 PM

Silver, are you still comfortable communicating? I see that you have thanked posters for a number of recent comments but haven't answered any of the numerous questions posed to you. Seeing as you are the closest person we have to this case on WS, I thought you would like to help us.

Fairy1 · #**270** 11-17-2009, 12:02 AM

One thing I want to add - and I don't want to offend anyone. I have a 17 year old son right now and we're close and he tells me most things. HOWEVER, lots of times, I get one syllable answers to my questions. If he had something to hide (and I don't think he does!), I can see how he would/could do it. Just sayin'.

Danaya · #**271** 11-17-2009, 12:12 AM

Who are you refering to, Fairy? Anyone in particular?

Fairy1 · #**272** 11-17-2009, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Danaya

Who are you refering to, Fairy? Anyone in particular?

Roger! I personally believe he was murdered. I base that opinion on the fact that he has yet to be found. But, if there was something going on in his life that his family didn't know about - abuse of any kind, depression, etc., I can see where he may have committed suicide.

Then again, if that were the case, I really don't believe we'd still be discusssing Roger - he would have been found long before now.

I do believe someone who thought he knew too much killed and buried him. We just have to figure out who that someone is and where they buried Roger.

He didn't run away and stay away all these years, IMO.

Danaya · #**273** 11-17-2009, 10:52 AM

I don't think so either, Fairy.

Reality Orlando · #**274** 11-17-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairy1

Hi ya'll. Haven't been here for a while as I don't care much for being scolded and belittled for my contributions to these cases. I would like to mention that the poster who has come here to defend himself was not defined as a POI on this board, but long before Roger's case was begun here. Just a little FYI.

I got to thinking today about a teacher my younger brother had in high school. I believe he was a history teacher and also coached the boy's varsity baseball team - though a less athletic person would be difficult to find. Anyhoo, he often had his MALE students over to his home to "study." It always bothered me and I never thought it was appropriate. I kept a pretty close eye on my little brother back in the day and he knew I didn't care for this guy. None of our boys ever went missing, but years later, I saw this same teacher on Dateline or 60 Minutes or some such show. He had been arrested as a child predator! He had long since left our school district, but that was actually the basis of the report. He just moved from one city/state to another as soon as things got heated or someone was questioning his behavior. None of the districts in which he taught ever did anything about it, they just allowed him to move on and on and on. Lord knows how many kids he hurt along the way.

Sadly, my big brother was introduced to pot by his trigonometry/theater teacher. Ironically, these things occurred in the same period during which Roger went missing.

My point is, it's not outside the realm of reality for teachers to be a bad or dangerous influence on their students. Particularly in the early 1980's, when parents weren't really as vigilant as they are now.

No amount of pontificating will change the known facts of this case, as few as they may be. Either one of the scenarios I'm relating here about my brothers could have created more than one horrible outcome. KWIM?

Case in point: Current case in Oviedo, Florida...happened a couple weeks ago.

"An Oviedo High School teacher resigned Wednesday after admitting she gave alcohol and her sport-utility vehicle to a student later arrested in a drunken-driving crash, a Seminole County Public Schools spokeswoman said."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,2566226.story

Fairy1 · #**275** 11-18-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Reality Orlando

Case in point: Current case in Oviedo, Florida...happened a couple weeks ago.

"An Oviedo High School teacher resigned Wednesday after admitting she gave alcohol and her sport-utility vehicle to a student later arrested in a drunken-driving crash, a Seminole County Public Schools spokeswoman said."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,2566226.story

Yes - any teacher. These people are supposed to be trustworthy, but sometimes, they're not. And they are NOT above reproach.