Forensic Astrology - STEVEN KOECHER, last seen 12/13/2009 Henderson,NV

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Yes, we've been studying that timeline, which was posted on the main forum too. The only communication for December 11 was about a job all right, with Bishop C.C. But there may have been employers he spoke with too, don't you think?
 
Tuba said:
Yes, we've been studying that timeline, which was posted on the main forum too. The only communication for December 11 was about a job all right, with Bishop C.C. But here may have been employers he spoke with too, don't you think?
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Probably. I doubt all of the exact timeline is known information.
Although I'm not sure where they accumulated this info, from various sources perhaps, but the family said (from my recollection reading that thread)
that they can account for everyone on his VM and I suppose there
are cell phone records the LE and family know about each and every call.
 
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As seen at chart tip top, the moment for which this chart is drawn is the ping pong reflex of Sun tripping off Mercury by antiscion and Mercury returning the favor. Now the message we discovered at Steve's leavetaking and which was eclipsed at the last day of the year, may have been a cell call or message left on the cell or it may have been some other form of communication but it left a dotted line to the voice messages that were erased on December 13.

If the family says all communications are accounted for, there needs be some concentration on these small hours of December 12 and the night of December 11. The thought and the communication then was the stimulus for the trip to Anthem. Of course, the family would NOT be aware of everyone he spoke to in person, especially during his many side trips.
 
Leomoon80 said:
How then do you see her playing a role in his disappearance, either directly or indirectly?
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Which book do I want to write?

A. Steven somehow found out the realtor was using illegal aliens to clean her houses and she was afraid he would go to the authorities so she murdered him.

B. With the indications of possible attraction between their charts, the realtor was taken with Steven, wanted him, lured him to an empty house where she somehow overpowered him (or had someone else do it), and with her Mars/Saturn midpoint on her Sun revealing her secret life as a dominatrix, is holding him prisoner. He will escape in late July and turn her in, explaining the transits to her chart at that time.

Any answer I put forth would be no more than a guess, an idea, of which there many, with none of them being provable.

There is no concrete evidence involving the realtor in any way (for good or ill) with his disappearance. But as she was the only other person seen to be moving in the area at that time it might help if more was known about her life at the time, past history, her involvement in the community.

Bob
 
" There are stranger things in Heaven and Earth then dreamt of in your philosophy Horatio"
I think the line goes from Shakespeare?

You may indeed have something ....
It would be nice if LE would also reinvest time (perhaps more time) checking all this out
such as background, and not passing on a person's "they look okay on the outside" theme. After all, this case is getting stale and old from what I can see, it's been over 5 months now.

There can be more under the surface, to a person such as with Mars/Saturn two known malefics

Of course, there was also the Olympic Park bomber who was in the wrong place at the wrong time, but I never saw his natal chart or bothered at the time.


For your own research , here is a natal chart with the correct time of a REAL admitted "Dominatrix" who makes her living this way . I have of course omitted all reference to her personally, other then the time of birth which i know is correct.

I don't know if this will help or not, but perhaps.....you never know.

There are many Uranian influences in this chart too, with her Uranus in the worse degree of the zodiac (or so it's said) 15Leo.
All those quirky Venus aspects too...Neptune, Venus & Uranus seem very
curious I think.

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Well, I guess I'll seal my fate here as an absolute nut case or I'm onto something.

I'm having a Venus return today, maybe that's it!

The IC of the disappear chart is 27 Gemini. I have asteroid "California" there in the 9th house. Today "Messenger" is transiting 27 Gemini. I was reading the Laytonian's timeline & Steven told AM's mother on his Ruby Valley trip of Dec. 9th, that he was going to Sacramento.

Did he go to California or is there a street in Las Vegas with the name California. Yes. California Ave. is 4 blocks long. Using google walking man I go up and down the street getting a close up view of 22 E. California Ave. and it's a Greyhound Bus Station. (approximate address)

Asteroid "Stevin" in the disappear chart is 9 Capricorn, my IC, Steven's "Messenger" 9 Cancer is my MC.

"California" is at the IC of the disappear chart today. Pretty creepy, huh? I have "Messenger" 11 Taurus, conjunct Steven's natal Chiron.

I'm not going to bet the farm that he took a bus or is buried or held captive on California Ave., but it is very coincidental, don't ya think?

RT has "California" 13:53 Capricorn, exactly trine the disappear chart "Messenger" 13:39.
 
Here again, like a smack upside the head, is The Messenger emphasis. Mercury/Hermes the messenger was hovering next to the asteroid Messenger you mention in Steve's disappearance and shortly after his voice messages were erased, it was 13° Capricorn. (At 7:27 a.m., it was 12°25'.)
 
Tuba, Could Steven have been serving as the messenger? I sense that is his demeanor as he walks past the security camera. From your comments, I think you'll say this is not the case, but I'm just going to ask anyway. And thank you. :D
 
Our #1 majored in business I'm guessing. Worked for as a mortgage consultant for a major firm & realtor. Started her own on-line mortgage consultancy venture, two in fact. Obtained H-1B visas and green cards for people. She knows her way around. Sharp cookie.

Real estate's been in the pits for realtors for a couple years. Yeah, things were great when they could sell the houses to sub-prime borrowers, but that lucrative market is done, fini. Now they have to wade through tons of paperwork to sell a foreclosure or a short sale. What else to do to make $$$? Why would you need a messenger? Someone to pick up a package at the Greyhound? What could it be? Who's going to check pkgs. at the bus station? It's not like the USPS or even Fed-Ex, who may call LE if they suspect something amiss. What could it be that he may have picked up to deliver to #1?
 
R.T. (Rapid Transit, i.e.) hasn't had a realty lic. since she bought her real property. She acquired a R.E. lic. on August 1, 2005 and it expired on Aug. 31, 2006. The status of her license is CLOSED.
 
Let's not be naive. How could S.S.A. have Mars on the Moon of the House of Banging Doors and Saturn on its Sun and that be Fine and Large? Tell me that and tell me now.
 
Tuba said:
Let's not be naive. How could S.S.A. have Mars on the Moon of the House of Banging Doors and Saturn on its Sun and that be Fine and Large? Tell me that and tell me now.
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How deeply should I bow?
 
Tuba said:
R.T. (Rapid Transit, i.e.) hasn't had a realty lic. since she bought her real property. She acquired a R.E. lic. on August 1, 2005 and it expired on Aug. 31, 2006. The status of her license is CLOSED.
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How strange is that? Mercury 17 Leo on Aug. 1 2005. To be replaced by Saturn 17 Leo on Aug. 31, 2006, with Neptune opposing 17 Aquarius. And Mars on Pluto. AND, Sun on the SN. Pluto square Pluto, Mars square Pluto. What does it mean?

Also, BML & Mars are conjunct, both transiting her Pluto.

Maybe it was too hard to find customers. Town flooded w/realtors.
 
Paulette said:
Our #1 majored in business I'm guessing. Worked for as a mortgage consultant for a major firm & realtor. Started her own on-line mortgage consultancy venture, two in fact. Obtained H-1B visas and green cards for people. She knows her way around. Sharp cookie.

Real estate's been in the pits for realtors for a couple years. Yeah, things were great when they could sell the houses to sub-prime borrowers, but that lucrative market is done, fini. Now they have to wade through tons of paperwork to sell a foreclosure or a short sale. What else to do to make $$$? Why would you need a messenger? Someone to pick up a package at the Greyhound? What could it be? Who's going to check pkgs. at the bus station? It's not like the USPS or even Fed-Ex, who may call LE if they suspect something amiss. What could it be that he may have picked up to deliver to #1?
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And now we find out that she let her RE license lapse.....hmmm.

Good points being made here.

What was she doing to make a living as before, a lucrative one?

Was the profit from the sale known as profitable . Was there more property then just one or the one being lived in?

I don't have those fine point details.

I see that in #1's own natal chart Venus does square Uranus, but it also squares Chiron

Perhaps jealousy here .....is possible too.

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How strange is that? Mercury 17 Leo on Aug. 1 2005. To be replaced by Saturn 17 Leo on Aug. 31, 2006, with Neptune opposing 17 Aquarius. And Mars on Pluto. AND, Sun on the SN. Pluto square Pluto, Mars square Pluto. What does it mean?
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Well, Leo 17 deg. is critical it's conjuunct Dubhe isn't it? Actually Al-Terf I suppose but always they are problematic stars , see here:
http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Dubhe.html
http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Alterf.html

Saturn restricts .....(license lapsed) opposed by Neptune? Perhaps just
a slip on her part. Neptune obscures.

I find all the stars from 13 - 17Leo to be particulary problematic.

The chart I posted for Joran has Sun & Mars with Midpoint in this region.

Ptolemy makes the following observations: "Of the stars in Leo, two in the head are like Saturn and partly like Mars. The three in the neck are like Saturn, and in some degree like Mercury.
 
Also, when she took on S.S.A. as her own on XXXXXX (see chart for two days later) Mercury was opposite Neptune, phony and for one purpose only.
 
Leomoon80 said:
And now we find out that she let her RE license lapse.....hmmm.

Good points being made here.

What was she doing to make a living as before, a lucrative one?

Was the profit from the sale known as profitable . Was there more property then just one or the one being lived in?

I don't have those fine point details.

I see that in #1's own natal chart Venus does square Uranus, but it also squares Chiron

Perhaps jealousy here .....is possible too.

REF:

Well, Leo 17 deg. is critical it's conjuunct Dubhe isn't it? Actually Al-Terf I suppose but always they are problematic stars , see here:
http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Dubhe.html
http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Alterf.html

Saturn restricts .....(license lapsed) opposed by Neptune? Perhaps just
a slip on her part. Neptune obscures.

I find all the stars from 13 - 17Leo to be particulary problematic.

The chart I posted for Joran has Sun & Mars with Midpoint in this region.

Ptolemy makes the following observations: "Of the stars in Leo, two in the head are like Saturn and partly like Mars. The three in the neck are like Saturn, and in some degree like Mercury.
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Since Saturn has replaced Mercury and BML & Mars transiting her natal Pluto, may mean she was let go from the company. But why?

That would be an expensive slip. Besides, she could have applied to be reinstated.

My mother has an Aries moon. You'd better not cross her & always have a silver salver full of chocolate bon bons in your right hand. She wanted to be a realtor at one time, but was tempermentally unsuited to it's demands. My daughter has a Gemini Sun & Mars. Flitting around like a butterfly. Maybe this combination does not combine well for a realtor.

RT has asteroid "Mony" 4:10 Aquarius trine Uranus 4:44 Libra. On August 3, 2005 "Mony" was conjunct her Venus, 9 Cancer. And the darndest thing "Honeycutt" was transiting 20 degrees Scorpio! That's Steven's Uranus. Talk about coincidence!

Honeycutt is described by Mark Andrew Holmes as "one's pie of the pie". Steven's natally is 13:37 Taurus.

"Mony" was conjunct the NN 21 Capricorn on Dec.13th.
 
Only this morning did I realise how many weeks we've been concentrating on this missing person but not until July 11 is there a solar eclipse on the cusp of House 5 in the chart for Steve's arrival in Anthem. The Moon in that House 8 of homicide rules the Fifth, gambling, chance taking, romance, children.

Since both the mortgage software company and the mortgage company are hers, I don't think she left or was sacked. The real reason we concentrate on her is that only she and Steve are captured on video. It was never put forth by any of us that she was a hands-on perpetrator in this case, only the look-out, the one who alerted faceless parties on Evening Lights Street.

In that sense, it was she who performed as messenger. She is also, Mercury, circulating in a car, parking, supposedly showing property (House 4 for House 7 party). So, grayjay, she is Mercury and she is the messenger. She is semi-square Neptune, the person under the illusion that he is walking toward a beneficial meeting & appointment. She does know better, so she is willingly abetting harm to a human being.

When a man walks down a cul de sac street and is never seen again, you don't take see no evil for an answer. It is true that private property cannot be breached without probable cause but there is cause to interrogate, and requestion, and press and push until you get some answers from these lizards with the sewn lips.
 
Set the coffee pot on the rocks. The logs are burning low. Gather round because I want to share a small bag of connections that flabbergasted & gobsmacked me last night. This cannot be mere coincidence.

On the 11:54 a.m. chart for Steve's first appearance in Anthem, you'll see the Part of Death (D), at 7:35 Pisces. This made a trine to Steve's Sun but was too unsupported elsewhere to mean much. Nevertheless, duly noted.

Charles Emerson developed a much used Part of Fatality and I calculated that for the House of Banging Doors. The part is exactly conjunct the Sun of Steven Koecher! There is no reason why a house in Nevada would register such a part at all unless something bad happened in there. The identity with and to Steve's Sun tells us to whom.

The Part of Fatality for Steve's arrival is 26:42 Taurus, conjunct Caput Algol, exact and square Neptune, Fortune and Jupiter. The Scorpio Moon of that Sunday would of course oppose the part.

South node of loss being found in House 5 and fatally at the same degree as Jupiter and the Sun, we need to ask if those are gambling losses he never made up, a romance gone wrong, a child he fathered that we know nothing about, someone's adulterous affair with him?

The police won't need a warrant, won't have to break and enter. This is the house of banging doors.
 
Progressed Sun coming to Antares, a fiery and violent Fixed Star, presaged a difficult year for Steve when he celebrated his thirtieth birthday. So did a progressed passage of his Moon through Taurus, a Sign that opposed his Sun Sign and planets therein.

We've already studied his birth Jupiter, unfortunately found at the same degree as his lunar node. Mark always of tragedy. Steve loved to travel but his Mercury and Jupiter were square, although in mutual reception giving him the option of refusing particular trips. Sadly, he took this trip and was not seen again. The warning that the ugly moment was nigh? Mars had progressed to that tragic Jupiter-Node. The Antares progressed Sun was also square his progressed Jupiter.

Pluto in transit overhead conjoined his progressed Venus, exact. Progressed Mercury was on Serpentis, "terror to society". The transiting Sun was only a degree and twenty minutes from perfect square to Steve's natal Saturn. Usually this imparts a sense of dread or fear toward events of that day. Times were bleak for Steve, so one day may have felt much like the next.
 
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