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I just don't think IF DS is responsible that there was enough time to get to Titusville. He wasn't at DS sr home when MP's mom called, but he called her back. Does anyone remember or know what time he called her back? Certainly there are phone records of the call. Whether it be landline or cell. I believe she is close but if you've never been to Fl it's hard to understand how many places there are to hide a body. Most of us followed the CA tragedy and are somewhat familiar with the area but I'm still blown away by the woods if you will in Fl. even smack dab in the middle of a metro area.
The text gives me the chills also, I have no doubt in my mind she didn't send it.
IMO
I have been thinking about the surveillance camera and the new report from Michelle's sister that the time was wrong on the camera by an hour.
Currently the time-stamped on the video seeing Michelle's car going into the area at 3:18 PM, of which, now it maybe 4:18 PM.
Michelle went missing on November 17, 2011
On November 6, 2011, the clocks went back an hour.
On March 2, 2011, the clocks went ahead an hour.
If the clocks were set back an hour on 11/6/11, then how could the time-stamp be at 3:18 PM when they say it should be "ahead" at least 4:18 PM?
If the camera was installed "let's say" April 1, 2011 @5:18 PM, then the clock should read 4:18 PM EST on 11/17/11 as the clocks went back an hour.
If the camera was installed "let's say" April 1, 2011 @4:18 PM, then the clock should read 3:18 PM EST on 11/17/11
However, I can't find a way to get the clock showing 3:18 PM to make any sense to be an hour ahead based on when clocks go back and forth.
If the camera is set up to the computer, computers automatically go back an hour and ahead an hour. Normally when a surveillance is set-up, it is to catch someone and the time is important.
Thoughts anyone?
I have a question which probably can't be answered right now. Did Michelle know about Dale's violent past when she lived with him? I'm assuming they lived together at the time the twins were conceived and that the relationship lasted awhile since they were engaged at one point. I am just curious why she was with this guy at all, if he is so high-tempered. And the 11 y.o. said all 3 kids witnessed him hitting her. Was this before or after he gave her an engagement ring?
I know some women can be stupid when it comes to men, but she did not appear to be stupid at all, in fact she seemed pretty smart, so that begs the question, exactly when did she decide to end the relationship? And why did she let it get that far before she ended it? I'm not bashing the victim here at all.... just trying to understand.
Does DS1's or DS2's home have an enclosed, attached garage? Or an attached carport?
I have been thinking about the surveillance camera and the new report from Michelle's sister that the time was wrong on the camera by an hour.
Help me understand the timeline as I haven't read every single entry. From what is determined, she dropped the twins at about 4 pm and the Hummer was then seen at the apartments at about 10:30 pm. So, that would give him about 6 hours, right? Is there any other concrete sightings/info in between? He could have made it to Tampa and back in that amount of time. There are so many small, rural areas off I-4 and there are no tolls there. Even given 4 hours, two each way is a lot of time.
BBM
The Today show just announced this timeline (saying it was put together with the help of her family):
2:00 pm: PC airs on TV
2:30 pm: Family last sees MP at the salon
3:15 pm: Hummer seen on tape, arriving in DS condo area
(DS said he took the kids to his parents house about an hour later)
4:26 pm: Brother received the "Waterford" text
6:50 pm: Son calls asking where his mom is
6:53 pm: Sister sends text to MP, asking to please call her asap
7:20 pm: Family member calls police, after learning MP still hasn't arrived
8:00 pm: Last ping from MP's cell phone
I don't think the episode has been posted on Today's site, but I can add it when it comes up. I just rewinded my DVR to get these down.
BBM
The Today show just announced this timeline (saying it was put together with the help of her family):
2:00 pm: PC airs on TV
2:30 pm: Family last sees MP at the salon
3:15 pm: Hummer seen on tape, arriving in DS condo area
(DS said he took the kids to his parents house about an hour later)
4:26 pm: Brother received the "Waterford" text
6:50 pm: Son calls asking where his mom is
6:53 pm: Sister sends text to MP, asking to please call her asap
7:20 pm: Family member calls police, after learning MP still hasn't arrived
8:00 pm: Last ping from MP's cell phone
I don't think the episode has been posted on Today's site, but I can add it when it comes up. I just rewinded my DVR to get these down.
I have been thinking about the surveillance camera and the new report from Michelle's sister that the time was wrong on the camera by an hour.
Currently the time-stamped on the video seeing Michelle's car going into the area at 3:18 PM, of which, now it maybe 4:18 PM.
Michelle went missing on November 17, 2011
On November 6, 2011, the clocks went back an hour.
On March 2, 2011, the clocks went ahead an hour.
If the clocks were set back an hour on 11/6/11, then how could the time-stamp be at 3:18 PM when they say it should be "ahead" at least 4:18 PM?
If the camera was installed "let's say" April 1, 2011 @5:18 PM, then the clock should read 4:18 PM EST on 11/17/11 as the clocks went back an hour.
If the camera was installed "let's say" April 1, 2011 @4:18 PM, then the clock should read 3:18 PM EST on 11/17/11
However, I can't find a way to get the clock showing 3:18 PM to make any sense to be an hour ahead based on when clocks go back and forth.
If the camera is set up to the computer, computers automatically go back an hour and ahead an hour. Normally when a surveillance is set-up, it is to catch someone and the time is important.
Thoughts anyone?
Without knowing for a fact the circumstances this is, of course, speculation. Generally a batterer is perfect in the beginning. It's important to remember that domestic battery is not about "losing one's temper" it's about exerting power and control over the victim. We often assume that an abuser has trouble controlling their temper - when in reality it's often exactly the opposite. Many times they are VERY good at only abusing when they WANT to abuse. (and then some of them are just loose cannons that abuse all the time). Generally in the start of a long term abusive relationship there isn't indication of what is to come. The abuser is "wonderful" , the abused falls in love , and THEN abuse starts. It's usually gradual , it starts out with my emotional abuse and then builds in severity. By the time the worst of the abuse starts there is usually an established relationship - and often times the abused has already been emotionally abused to the point that they believe the abuse is "their fault" or they "deserve it". Generally it follows a cycle where the abuser tells the victim things such as "if YOU had/hadn't done THIS then i would never have HAD to do THAT" and so on - and then the abuser is generally PERFECT for a time period after. Bringing flowers, gifts, being loving etc. "It will never happen again" an so on.
The kids are only 3, so it is pretty easy to hide things from them. They could have been put in the condo in front of cartoons, and been oblivious to what was happening. Also, Dale Sr could have been on the scene to help.
As far as we know her phone has not been found.
I also thought about, OK, the homeowner never set the clock when installed, and it is not attached to the computer. Normally when you purchase something that has a clock in it, and you plug it in, it usually starts running at 12:00. If you don't set the clock and just let it run, what are the chances that the camera would have spotted Michelle at 3:18 or 4:18 without ever setting the clock in the first place?
As soon as I woke up, this came into my thoughts.
The media is still reporting the 3:18 PM time-frame. WHY???