IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #4

lishac23 said:

Now that the lake has been ruled out. I'd Like to hear others opinions on what may have happened. Does the majority think they made to the lake by riding on the trail (would explain the dogs tracking the scent)?<snipped for space>

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craftybatchy said:

If MCM's current love interest is actively involved with drug use or is a known felon, would she not then be in violation of her conditions by associating with him (whomever he may be) ?

MCM has stated that they have been open about their pasts and whatever has happened in the past is something they have moved forward from as a family. Uh, she was only released in MAY. May. Not sure how quickly the entire family could move past several years of drug addiction, crime, and incarceration but I think less than three months is pushing it.

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GrainneDhu said:

If it is any comfort, I recall a similar case in Illinois near Chicago years ago. One car was seen skidding into a river and as they looked for it, they kept pulling other cars out of the water.

LE identified most of those cars as stolen and having been disposed of after a run through a chop shop or being involved in some other crime. None of them were associated with drowning victims except the one car they were looking for.

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stacemcace said:

OK so group has changed to closed group? OK i get that n reasons will join thank xx

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nikb said:

Do you know if there was ever confirmation that the dogs DID track their scent? I know it was stated a lot and all over MSM even, but did LE or a tracking dog handler ever confirm it? I know very little about scent dogs but from what's been posted here it sounds like it'd be easy for someone who's not their handler to mis-interpret the dogs' actions. Maybe not so much if both dogs acted the same way... I dunno, throwing ideas out there.

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JodiR said:

I don't know if it is allowed to be posted since I have nothing to back it up.

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lishac23 said:

Iirc yes it was confirmed by LE. I have difficulty searching past posts via my phone, but a couple of our fellow sleuthers posted that either through the media or through one of the press conferences that the dogs did in fact pick up their scent and followed it to where the booked were found, and into the woods. Sorry, I wish I could direct you to those couple pages where it was discussed.

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elmomom said:

Please tell me at this is not in response to my post. Becasue if it is, you have severely misrepresented what I said.
Let me say it as c l e a r l y as possible to avoid being misconstrued.

DM had pending drug charges. He allowed a search by LE without a warrant. He allowed LE access to his cell phone without a warrant. He took a polygraph. He put his legal troubles ahead of his daughter? No, he did not...

Misty has very recently been sent back to prison for violating the terms of her release, so she knows one little slip up and she's back in. She too, allowed LE access to her phone, her residence, and took a polygraph. Is this putting herself first? No, it is not.

It is crazy if one is involved in criminal activity to give LE free access to all of your personal business. Every criminal knows this. And yet, these two folks did, Becasue in this instance they put their daughter first.

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ynotdivein said:

Hey peeps. :wave:

Remember that at WS we have to link to a mainstream media (MSM) story and must consider other info as rumor. We understand that this is not how most social media sites, and many other true-crime sites, operate. But it is a very deliberate decision by the owners and is intended to protect both crime victims and our posters.

If a poster is local or knows the persons involved in a case, there is a very simple verification process available and you can PM any on-duty mod to ask for details of how to get verified.

Meantime, we have to respect the privacy of persons who have not been officially named suspects in any particular case.

Let me know if you have any questions, and thank you all for dedicating your efforts to finding Lyric & Elizabeth!

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sreshowtime said:

I would like the locals to share their opinions of where people supposedly go to buy drugs, etc, ya know the sketchy scarey places?? - what is a specific area with the worst reputation overall??
Curious to see if locals think the same, or have different opinions.

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Ms Pragmatic said:

Just wondering what the locals think of LE and how they have been handling the case. Is there a general consensus or is the town divided? I appreciate the local insight because I have learned so much and gained a better understanding of locations, how things are mapped out, distances between points, terrain, local sentiment. you can't get that stuff by just reading the newspaper and watching national news.

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lishac23 said:

Now that the lake has been ruled out. I'd Like to hear others opinions on what may have happened. Does the majority think they made to the lake by riding on the trail (would explain the dogs tracking the scent)?
Or is it likely they were abducted somewhere else and the bikes/purse discarded there?
Imo, I don't think the family is involved nor do I think its related to the drug issues. I do think its possible that they made it to the lake riding the trail and whatever happened did so at that spot where the bikes were found....but that's about all I've got

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