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There are some quick scenes in the second documentary of texts between the news agency and MP. They refer to money. Anyway we can get some screen shots of those?
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I really dont think that all Asians look alike there are some other very compelling reasons I think this could be THE MP...I could be wrong though. Of course there is a possibility I am right. ; )
The producer of the documentary will probably sell you the video, and still photos can be created by a studio.
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Thanks I am pretty sure you are right. Oh well I tried. ; )
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Does anybody have a link for the youtube video of MP and his dogs? I have tried to find it online woth no luck. Thanks
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I have seen it, there really isn't anything to it. It was like 5 seconds long, he is making baby talk to a chihuahua that is wearing a doggy outfit. Unless someone could determine that it was a male chihuahua in female chihuahua clothes I would say it's worthless. I don't know where 48 Hrs get's off saying he has an obsession with dressing up dogs. I don't think a 5 sec youtube clip of someone's life warrants calling them obsessed.
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Fyi, Pak is not Chinese or Japanese. He's Korean (link ). Here is his youtube ( link ) and myspace ( link ). As for his exact birthday, could prolly find it if I had the time. But I don't. However sleuths should be able to easily find that and more from the info in the above links. He has a rather prolific web presence.
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wow, he is obsessed with dressing up small dogs! lol. Korean huh, well that's good news, it pretty much kills the snakehead angle... does anyone want his phone # ?
I have looked everywhere and can't find an exact date. The closest I have come to a reliable birthday is by the FBOP information that he was released from prison in April of 2005 and was 43 at the time. That would make him born in 1962 or possibly 1961. I have done a lot of searching so if anybody can find it, I will be impressed.
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Since people are creatures of habit and Pak has been using the alias PArK for several years, if he does have an FB presence, I would expect it to be under Michael PArK.
As for his age? This article ( link ) posted in April of 2011, states he is 41. Which would make his birth year 1970. His birthday would fall sometime after April 11th.
Importantly, and notably, from the above excerpt, is that he met Shannan while she was working for a Jersey City agency. My guess... Lace Party Girls. ( link )
So, this woman "becomes a couple" with driver turned pimp (Diaz), who is replaced by another driver (Pak). Which is, imnsho, reminescent of the way some Southern Cali gangs have been operating. ( link, pp 9-10 )
As for his age? This article ( link ) posted in April of 2011, states he is 41. Which would make his birth year 1970. His birthday would fall sometime after April 11th.
That year, while working for a Jersey City agency, she met Pak, who identified himself to Newsday as an escort driver. Pak, 41, had served six months in prison after pleading guilty in August 2004 to a federal charge of conspiracy to misuse a passport. He was arrested on May 11, 2004, at Dallas-Fort Worth Airport after flying from Zurich with a woman from China who had a U.S. passport in someone else's name, according to the indictment.
Importantly, and notably, from the above excerpt, is that he met Shannan while she was working for a Jersey City agency. My guess... Lace Party Girls. ( link )
In 2007, while working for an agency called Lace Party Girls, Gilbert, then 21, was caught in a Route 17 hotel sting and charged with engaging in prostitution, according to Upper Saddle River police.
It was through Lace Party Girls that she met Alex Diaz, a driver for the agency who made $400 to $800 a day. His record haul was $2,600 in one day, he said. Diaz, a 29-year-old man with dark, shaggy hair, said he and Gilbert became a couple around 2008.
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In a long interview with the paper, Gilberts boyfriend tells of a stormy relationship marked by her drug use, abortions and a fight in which he admits breaking her jaw.
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Even though Diaz was unemployed, Gilbert could afford new furniture and a plasma TV for their apartment close to the Grove Street PATH train.
It was through Lace Party Girls that she met Alex Diaz, a driver for the agency who made $400 to $800 a day. His record haul was $2,600 in one day, he said. Diaz, a 29-year-old man with dark, shaggy hair, said he and Gilbert became a couple around 2008.
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In a long interview with the paper, Gilberts boyfriend tells of a stormy relationship marked by her drug use, abortions and a fight in which he admits breaking her jaw.
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Even though Diaz was unemployed, Gilbert could afford new furniture and a plasma TV for their apartment close to the Grove Street PATH train.
So, this woman "becomes a couple" with driver turned pimp (Diaz), who is replaced by another driver (Pak). Which is, imnsho, reminescent of the way some Southern Cali gangs have been operating. ( link, pp 9-10 )
Prostitutes were not permitted to speak with or even look at other pimps, and may be traded and "gifted" among pimps. Other pimps were permitted to encourage a prostitute to work for him, and she was allowed to select, or "choose up" to, a new pimp, though generally she must pay a "choose up fee" to her new pimp for the privilege. The new pimp then informed the old pimp that the prostitute had decided to leave, which is referred to as "serving the papers." Long-term prostitutes frequently obtained tattoos, or other branding, featuring the gang moniker of their pimps.
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Prostitutes who attempted to carry out their business without a pimp, known as "renegading," may be subject to punishment by any member or associate of the Enterprise, including assaults and robberies. Enterprise members jointly enforced the rules of "The Game" on prostitutes who were ignoring the rules, or "out-of-pocket." Adherence to the rules was enforced through violence, threats of violence, humiliation and other coercive means. Pimps known for controlling their prostitutes through force were known as "gorilla pimps," while those who convinced their prostitutes to abide by the rules without violence are "finesse pimps."
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Prostitutes who attempted to carry out their business without a pimp, known as "renegading," may be subject to punishment by any member or associate of the Enterprise, including assaults and robberies. Enterprise members jointly enforced the rules of "The Game" on prostitutes who were ignoring the rules, or "out-of-pocket." Adherence to the rules was enforced through violence, threats of violence, humiliation and other coercive means. Pimps known for controlling their prostitutes through force were known as "gorilla pimps," while those who convinced their prostitutes to abide by the rules without violence are "finesse pimps."
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:rocker: I wanna be like you when I grow up! ; ))
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I'm sorry...call me SLOW...which documentary are you referring too?
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Michael Pak left his friend to whom he professes great concern for to die.
Why would anything he says hold any water? Would you trust someone like that? I would not. He is a snake, a liar, a manipulator and a coward. Straight up punk.
Why would anything he says hold any water? Would you trust someone like that? I would not. He is a snake, a liar, a manipulator and a coward. Straight up punk.
You might try these links
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDgBHDHpF8w"]Search For A Serial Killer - Part I - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7412652n&tag=mncol;lst;2"]The Long Island Serial Killer - 48 Hours - CBS News[/ame]
[ame="http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7392036n&tag=contentBody;storyMediaBox"]The Long Island Serial Killer - 48 Hours - CBS News[/ame]
[ame="http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7373142n&tag=mncol;lst;5"]The Long Island Serial Killer - 48 Hours - CBS News[/ame]
I have only been able to find one government site listing Pak's age and that is the Federal Bureau of Prisons Inmate Locator site. The link is
http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/LocateInmate.jsp
If you enter the name Michael Pak you come up with:
1. MICHAEL MIN CHUL PAK 32483-177 -White-M 04-01-2005 RELEASED
32483-177 Register # 43-White-M
http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFind...dle=&LastName=Pak&Race=U&Sex=U&Age=&x=57&y=13
If you believe as I do that FBOP would be more likely to have his correct date of birth than any of these article about the LI case or that Pak is lying about his age, then Pak is actually about 50. This is the first time I have noticed this and it doesn't seem anyone else has noticed this.
MICHAEL MIN CHUL PAK is the name the FBOP has so it is probably his real name.
http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/LocateInmate.jsp
If you enter the name Michael Pak you come up with:
1. MICHAEL MIN CHUL PAK 32483-177 -White-M 04-01-2005 RELEASED
32483-177 Register # 43-White-M
http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFind...dle=&LastName=Pak&Race=U&Sex=U&Age=&x=57&y=13
If you believe as I do that FBOP would be more likely to have his correct date of birth than any of these article about the LI case or that Pak is lying about his age, then Pak is actually about 50. This is the first time I have noticed this and it doesn't seem anyone else has noticed this.
MICHAEL MIN CHUL PAK is the name the FBOP has so it is probably his real name.
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Question: when the site says, "43-White-M" are they referring to his current age, his age at release, or his age at incarceration?
Also, something to think about, is the man we know as Michael Pak, actually the Michael Pak in a legal sense. When it comes to issues of citizenship, visa's, social security #'s, etc, things can get funny. Maybe at age 9 he became Michael Min Chul Pak, got a social security #, and became legit, but the identity was really that of someone a few years older.
I have a friend from Korea who moved to Queens when he was about 10 or 12 years old when his father sent for the rest of the family: mother and 2 kids. He celebrates 2 birthdays a year because when the US gave him citizenship it botched the interpretation of his birth certificate or something like that, so he celebrates his actual birthday, and also the one that is on all of his identification other than his Korean birth certificate. So, technically speaking his age isn't accurate according to US docs, but it isn't as drastic as Pak's shituation.
Funny how Pak was released on April 1st. So much potential for the meanest April fools joke ever.
All I know is Pak did do time in a federal prison and he is the only Michael Pak listed. I don't know about this entry but in looking up other inmates on other sites they listed the age at the time of the inmate's release.
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The age , 43, is his current age, based on his DOB. I checked with somone else that is listed in that database and the age shown was his current age.
Here is, I´m 99 % sure, "our" Michael Pak and his DOB: 07/05/1969 (5 Jul 1969):
People Search: PAK, MICHAEL born 07/05/1969
6 Matches Found (100 max.)
Name/AKAs Phone Address City, State Possible Relatives
1. PAK, MINCHUL (Age 43)
Associated names:
PAK, MICHAEL
PAK, MINJAE J
Available
WOODSIDE, NY
VESTAL, NY
FLUSHING, NY
Possible Relatives:
PAK, MICHAEL M (Age 43)
2. PAK, MICHAEL M (Age 43)
Associated names:
PAK, MIKE
PAK, MINJI
PAK, MIN J
PAK, MINJAE J
PAK, MINCHUL M
TAK, MIKE
Available(6)
RIDGEWOOD, NY
WOODSIDE, NY
VESTAL, NY
NEW YORK, NY
BINGHAMTON, NY
Possible Relatives:
PAK, MINCHUL (Age 43)
Truthspider, thanks for pointing this out about dates.
JOHN A GOTTI 00632-748 48-White-M 12-01-2009 RELEASED
born February 14, 1964
Having John Gotti's birthdate, one can just add 48 and that comes out to to his being 48 in 2012, so that date should be how old he is now, not when he entered the prison system and not when he was released.
He was the only famous person I could think of to compare to.
So I was wrong, and Michael Pak is 43 now. Thought I was on to something there. I have not been on a run lately.
JOHN A GOTTI 00632-748 48-White-M 12-01-2009 RELEASED
born February 14, 1964
Having John Gotti's birthdate, one can just add 48 and that comes out to to his being 48 in 2012, so that date should be how old he is now, not when he entered the prison system and not when he was released.
He was the only famous person I could think of to compare to.
So I was wrong, and Michael Pak is 43 now. Thought I was on to something there. I have not been on a run lately.
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