margarita25
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This case reminds me of Shane Fells' case (disappeared after car accident).
This is the timeline: (what else would you like to know?)
11:30 p.m. Wednesday - Bryce Laspisa leaves Chico, according to his girlfriend, Kim.
9 a.m. Thursday - Bryce runs out of gas near the Buttonwillow Rest Area, west of Bakersfield, according to his mother.
Noon Thursday - a roadside assistance serviceman named Christian delivers three gallons of gasoline to Bryce, according to a $20 credit card purchase for the fuel. “He’s not answering his phone (at this time),” his mother said.
12:30 p.m. Thursday - Karen Laspisa calls serviceman Christian and asks about her son. He tells her he appears “OK” but adds: “His eyes look a little red.” Bryce does not answer his cell phone.
9 p.m. Thursday - responding to a call from the mother, CHP officers stop and search Bryce’s car spotted on Lagoon Drive in Buttonwillow. “Something happened in the whole 10 hours he was around there,” she said.
Shortly after 10 p.m. Thursday - Karen speaks to her son on the phone and asks: “What are you doing?” His response, she said, is: “I’m going to hang with friends later.”
11 p.m. Thursday - Bryce tells his mother he’s buying a beverage at a gas station. A purchase is made for $1.71, she said.
Shortly after midnight Thursday - “He tells me he’s on the I-5 south but he’s telling me nothing,” she said.
1:50 a.m. Friday - Bryce, by phone, tells her he “had detoured off I-5 but was back on the I-5.”
2:08 a.m. Friday - Karen Laspisa talks to her son for the last time. He tells her his GPS tells him he will arrive in Laguna Niguel in three hours and 25 minutes. “He told me ‘I got off the I-5 and I’m in a suburban area. I’m going to sleep in my car,’”
Between 2:08 a.m. and 5 a.m. Friday - Bryce makes three trips to the crash site – the last trip ending with the crash, according to what his mother described as surveillance footage captured by cameras set up near Castaic Lake.
5:30 a.m. Friday - CHP officers locate his overturned SUV on a paved access road that leads to the Castaic Lake Main Boat ramp, at the bottom of a 15-foot ravine, on its side, with its rear window smashed. Although he left the valuables – laptop, cell phone and wallet – a duffle bag is found at the rear of the car and zipped open, prompting investigators to suspect he took something from it.
Oh, and about the car key thing, Karen told the friends to give back the keys only after she talked to Bryce AND a few friends that she know and trusts their judgement.
I don't think giving him the keys back has any real relevance on what followed
First of all, thanks for your thought.
To try to answer your question, that what my sister was told by friends, and she even put it in the timeline
10 p.m. Wednesday - Bryce reportedly tries to break up with his girlfriend. Friends, concerned about his behavior, take away his car keys.
It was later found out that that was not what happened. It seems like certain things "stick out" and people remember those things.
That's why I want to make sure the things I am posting are facts, otherwise things can be misconstrued and only hinder the investigation
Dragracerz
I'd like to ask a question kind of delicately, I hope no offense is taken. I'm asking only from my own experience with my own son...
Is there any history in either side of Bryce's family of mental illness or Aspergers/autism ?
Again I ask only because of his age, which is predominantly when signs/symptoms spring up in schizophrenia. My sons symptoms hit at that age and shocked us all, we had no warning what so ever. I really hope and pray that this isn't the case for Bryce, but that also may explain why he is still missing...if he is in a catatonic state like we found me son, he may just be stumbling along somewhere.
If he wasn't messed up why didn't he try to make a call with his cell phone in the truck but yet was able to crawl out the broken window? None of this makes any sense.
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If he wasn't messed up why didn't he try to make a call with his cell phone in the truck but yet was able to crawl out the broken window? None of this makes any sense. Do you think it's possible he had someone in the car with him to try some kind of hallucinogenic drug and thats why at the lake where no one would see them and he overdosed and whoever he was with got scared and did something to him.
Right now there are so many scenarios and possibilities. If he was injured could he had been attacked by a mountain? they do have them there but rarely do they attack humans. I know several years ago in OC where I live a mountain bikers chain fell off in Silverado Canyon and he was mauled and killed by a mountain lion as people watched in horror throwing rocks to ward him off.
So for the bad writing but I am so sleepy!!!
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:welcome: Deicide!Hi there, I'm new up here, and followed this since second last friday.
I normally don't follow missing cases, because I'm from germany, but something about that got my attention immediately.
I found it interesting that most of you came up with so many conclusions. What I found suspicious is, when the burned body showed up, he's been already 5 days missing and 5 days later, not 5 hours, that happened. I'm apologizing in advance for my thoughts,please don't take it as a offence,I know most people always hopes for the best, but I'm quiet different, I always think the worst, because of what happened to me. So if it comes out with something good, I can be happy that I was wrong, if it's turn out badly, I can say I knew it(in 90 % of the times).Just an explanation how I see things,always.
Ok, back to the topic. The other Body found in gorman was on wednesday 28. So this can't be BL. Nevertheless, what I found suspicious was, I read that the body belongs to a black male, and they stated that as a suicide. When I tried to looking for this article again on friday, it was gone, I just found that the body wasn't identified.Very odd. :dunno: I saw pictures of the other 1, newspaper are sometimes gross, and from what I saw, makes me wondering why it takes so long for determine. Because I'm not sure to write down what I saw, so I lay it down.
For all the Families involved in this, I'm truly wishing the best and everything will be discovered.
Apologize for my terrible writing. Taught the most all by myself.
Kind regards Dee
Hello!
I'm new to this thread and to WebSleuths. I have been following everyone's posts here for days now but couldn't join in due to some difficulties registering. But I'm here now and although I might not have much beneficial to add, I have been following Bryce's case for a week now and it has been laying heavy on my heart, as I know it has everyone's. So I felt I had to join in and at least express my care and concern, if nothing else.
I did, however, stumble upon something while looking up an article about the burning body by Castaic Lake. I CAN'T say it has ANYTHING to do with the body that was discovered this past Wednesday. It may just be pure coincidence. But I DO think it is a VERY odd coincidence, if it is one. There seems to be way too many burning bodies turning up in that particular area.
First, a man's burning body in 2009 that was identified and linked to a gang related case. And then about a year later in Oct. 2010, another body, unidentified, is found burnt beyond recognition. WEIRD! So, what I am wondering is if perhaps the reason LE is being so hush-hush and taking forever to release any information is linked to these other bodies.
They know the first body was dumped there by a local gang, perhaps the second one was as well, I don't know. So is this body discovered on Wednesday also something to do with the gang and maybe the police are not wanting to say it isn't Bryce because they are quietly pursuing leads within the gang?
I may be way off but I just thought it would be really nice if this was the case and maybe they already know it isn't Bryce. It just seems too coincidental that two burning bodies were discovered by the lake years before Bryce, for this one to end up being Bryce.
I will post the links to the two stories I found so you can take a look and see the similarities. One thing that stood out to me is that one of them was even noticed at 5:39 am, which is close to the 6 am that this one on Wednesday was found. May have nothing to do with anything, but I am just wondering if perhaps the gang kills the victim at night and dumps the body in the early morning. Perhaps this lake is "their dumping grounds". I feel sorry for all the victims, honestly, it's terribly sad. But I am still holding out hope that this body is NOT Bryce and perhaps these other bizarre burning bodies are the reason the police can not confirm it is not Bryce yet.
Here are the links to the two stories:
http://www.signalscv.com/archives/18192
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/10/small-brush-fire-quickly-knocked-down.html
Hope that provides some food for thought and gives us all some hope that Bryce is still out there somewhere!
Another thing, and I am sure this has come up at some other time on this thread, but looking through Bryce's Facebook page, it is clear that he had some very close friendships back in IL. I saw one place where he indicates he is going back there for a visit. I hope that all measures have been taken to ensure that he is not hiding out with some of these friends back there.
Perhaps the reason it would cross my mind is that I full well remember how homesick I was when I first moved to the West Coast from NC. (Somedays, I still am homesick and this is two years later!) I don't think Bryce seems to be a heartless person AT ALL so I can not imagine him putting his family through all this just so he could sneak back to be with his friends in his hometown. But like some of you have mentioned, 19 yr olds don't always have the forethought to realize how much something like their disappearance would freak people out and make them worry sick. Or there could be other reasons for why he doesn't want anyone to know.
I don't know. It doesn't seem like a plausible theory but was just something that stood out to me - the close bond he seemed to share with friends back in IL and the fact that he was born there and lived there (it appears anyway??) till they moved to CA. Just a thought that I hope LE has looked into as well.
@ dragracerz: Has anyone in the family made contact with Marc Klaas?
Dragracerz, do you know what Valero gas station and when? Would be helpful to add that to the timeline. Thank you.
Dragracerz
I'd like to ask a question kind of delicately, I hope no offense is taken. I'm asking only from my own experience with my own son...
Is there any history in either side of Bryce's family of mental illness or Aspergers/autism ?
Again I ask only because of his age, which is predominantly when signs/symptoms spring up in schizophrenia. My sons symptoms hit at that age and shocked us all, we had no warning what so ever. I really hope and pray that this isn't the case for Bryce, but that also may explain why he is still missing...if he is in a catatonic state like we found me son, he may just be stumbling along somewhere.
((Hugs)) almost exactly what I've been through these past 6 yrs with my son. Which is why I REALLY hope it's not the case for Bryce and his family. I wouldn't wish it on anyone in the world.
:welcome: PoirotsGirlFriday!
I do know there is A LOT of gang related activity in the greater Los Angeles area... And down into Santa Ana, too... As I live in Southern California...
what it has to do with Bryce's situation... I don't know... But gang activity could very well be connected to the burning bodies you mentioned...
I, too, am wondering if Bryce is still homesick for his friends in Illinois... And if this homesickness is connected in some way to his disappearance...
All... JMO
and...:seeya:
If he wasn't messed up why didn't he try to make a call with his cell phone in the truck but yet was able to crawl out the broken window? None of this makes any sense. Do you think it's possible he had someone in the car with him to try some kind of hallucinogenic drug and thats why at the lake where no one would see them and he overdosed and whoever he was with got scared and did something to him.
HD